Tom's 400 watt Growing Odyssey

[TechnoMage]

I've noticed two things about clones taken from plants already in flower.
1. They can take a LOT longer to root. I've had it take as long as 4 weeks so keep that humidity high.
2. They'll often have mutated leaves and multiple main branches early in growth. That one that took 4 weeks to root, had 6 main cola's on it with no topping or LST. It grew all twisted right at the beginning but really produced in the end.

Thanks for the quick lesson, I will follow your steps with my clones. Quick question,,, whats the latest time into flowering you can take clones? I ask because I'm 31 days into my 12/12 and I wanted to clean up my ladies on the underside the help promote more growth toward the main colas and I thought it would be a waste if I just threw away the cutting.

 

[steelherman]

Thanks for the advise Techno , its worth the try..like I said , it beats re ordering seeds.

 

[theloadeddragon]

I just cloned my pk thats 4 wks into flower.... Im expecting roots within ten days.... shrugs... hoping for roots in ten days.... shrugs again.... as long as the damn things take root so I don't have to tear it up and reveg it inside after harvest (would take two to three months!)

 

[diggitydank420]

I took clones off of a plant two weeks into flower. They rooted about a day slower than ones taken during veg. Although they did look much worse when they wilted. Much more so than the veg clones.

 

[cruzer101]

Hey Tom,

Somehow I must have un subscribed to your thread. Well, I'm back now.
I see you made a DWC setup. Turning into a bubble head huh? lol
Lookin good.

Hey just thought I would mention this, you know how the plants take off once the roots hit the water?
Well this happen to me and I wanted all the plants the same height so I tried cutting the roots on one that hit the water and slowed it down some so the others caught up. It worked pretty good for me.

So have you noticed any big difference in budding now that you are on the 400W?
You did dam good with a 250W. I am trying a floro flower this time around, if it don't work out I will get a 250W for that cab.
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[tom__420]

Hey Tom,

Somehow I must have un subscribed to your thread. Well, I'm back now.
I see you made a DWC setup. Turning into a bubble head huh? lol
Lookin good.

Hey just thought I would mention this, you know how the plants take off once the roots hit the water?
Well this happen to me and I wanted all the plants the same height so I tried cutting the roots on one that hit the water and slowed it down some so the others caught up. It worked pretty good for me.

So have you noticed any big difference in budding now that you are on the 400W?
You did dam good with a 250W. I am trying a floro flower this time around, if it don't work out I will get a 250W for that cab.
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Thanks for stopping by buddy. I am growing in DWC for the time being but I will never be a bubble head. Lol this isn't middle school haha. I have noticed some faster growth with the 400 watter that is for sure. Recently I have been having some major temp probs due to me being an idiot and removing the window a/c that fed the plants cool air. I have the 250 watt HPS bulb in the cool tube for the next few days until things cool down. I was considering cutting the roots actually recently because the other two are lagging behind the clone that is in the middle directly under the light, I may have to give it a try after all

 

[damnbigbudz]

Great grow man! you loving that cool tube? i have a 1000watt HPS in a cool tube and it is AMAZING. how do you like that 3 liter set-up? can you use that all the way through flowering? do you think I could have a couple more pics to see exactly how you put it together? Best of luck with the rest of your grow.

 

[tom__420]

Great grow man! you loving that cool tube? i have a 1000watt HPS in a cool tube and it is AMAZING. how do you like that 3 liter set-up? can you use that all the way through flowering? do you think I could have a couple more pics to see exactly how you put it together? Best of luck with the rest of your grow.

Yeah man I am liking that cooltube, although it's light spread isn't the greatest. The lights are out in the flowering room so I can't get any pics until tomorrow. This is the guide that I used though: http://herbsandhydroponics.blogspot.com/2009/09/worlds-simplest-ebb-flow.html

I am going to use it all the way through flowering for the one plant that I have in it. I just may have to lengthen the floods per day as she gets bigger and further into flower

 

[tom__420]

Hello everyone

I just snapped some shots of the plants, not too many just enough to fill you in on their progress.

These first set of pics are of the DWC plants. They are 8 days into flower and starting to show some growth. The roots look a little dark because of the sugar daddy and awesome blossoms I am using. They are both dark brown colored nutes. Here are the pics:

Here's a pic of the one soil purple plant that is still in the flower box. She is 31 days into flower

Church also 31 days into flower. Leaves look horrible but the bud growth is still kicking. I cannot wait to go to full hydro hahah, I find it much easier to stay in control

Here is the purple plant in the diy ebb and flow. She is 31 days into flower as well. She has been growing under only the 70 watt HPS along with the other purple plant in soil

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Here is the other soil purple plant that is under the 70 watt HPS. 31 days into flowering and as you can tell from the top bud has grown in height a little too quickly lol

Let me know what you think. Questions comments or concerns are always welcomed. Have a good one
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[cruzer101]

You are not going to prop that top up?
That would freak me out. lol

 

[TechnoMage]

So Tom, you're using both DWC and ebb and flow. You showing a preference?

 

[tom__420]

You are not going to prop that top up?
That would freak me out. lol

Lol I think I am just going to leave her and let her do her own thing

So Tom, you're using both DWC and ebb and flow. You showing a preference?

I like both a lot more than soil that is for sure. I like the ebb and flow more though because it seems a lot easier to deal with. I want to make an ebb and flow for my 400 watt flower box with this tray: http://www.pchydro.com/grow-systems-trays-c-14_15/turbo-garden-tray-p-3598

I have a condensate pump that can raise water 15 feet. Do you think that could work to raise the water to the tray? It would obviously be a lot less than 15 feet above the rez haha. So does anyone have any info on using condensate pumps?

 

[theloadeddragon]

ebb & flow is fun, ......

 

[TechnoMage]

My big problem is that I'm so space constrained, including vertical. I'm not sure how I'd fit an Ebb & Flow in. I have thought about doing DWC or Bubbleponics because I think I could squeeze that in.

 

[tom__420]

Well a tray can just sit on top of the rez so that it will only be a few inches taller than the rez
Also, with ebb and flow you can have very small pots, you would just have to feed more times a day.
Really you could probably make an ebb and flow setup that would only be a few inches tall than a DWC
Ebb and flow is a lot easier with the rez being separate from where the plants are,
I need to figure out something I can hold the top lid to my DWC up off the ground so that the long roots don't get messed up

 

[cruzer101]

I get a second tub and set it on that while I mess with the water.

 

[tom__420]

I get a second tub and set it on that while I mess with the water.

Yeah that probably would have been a smart idea to grab one when they were on sale at the store LOL

Here are some pics of the three outdoor ladies at 8 weeks and 2 days flowering. They are getting closer but not quite there yet. I looked at the trichs and there are only a few amber so another week or so. Here are the pics:

 

[theloadeddragon]

Excellent! Doing a great job with them!

 

[Hulk Nugs]

hell yea those plants are looking great man keep it up

 

[hazed4days]

Plants Are looking Great tom.
what strain is your outdoor? are you on the East or West Coast?

I like the DWC