I Have A ? For You Religious People.

[morgentaler]

yeah, you just went over to another thread to call us monkeys, ya weasel

but that's okay. no matter how heavily we bash each others opinions, these threads are refreshingly devoid of direct insults.

try that in youtube comments on videos either for science or faith, and the next thing you know people are calling you mean names in hopes that you'll cry and be electrocuted by your keyboard.

 

[Mauihund]

Athiest don't get together to form plans.

You are either very wrong or you have a hidden agenda. In my humble opinion.

Atheists are organized and purposeful in spreading their vision, their "cultural" agenda.

You have done nothing more than substitute one form of religion for another. Humans were created to worship someone of something. Athism is proof of that.

Here's just the first few conferences and organizasions I found on Google. For your reading pleasure.


American Athiest Conference:
http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/01/05/2009-american-atheists-conference-registration/

Seventh World Athiest Conference 2009:
http://www.sacw.net/article557.html

“Don’t Believe in God? You Are Not Alone,” Aprosilatizing Athiests:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/us/27atheist.html

The Rise of Atheism - Australian Atheist Conference 2010:
http://seantheblogonaut.com/2009/05/the-rise-of-atheism-australian-atheist-conference-2010/

Life Without a Net - American Atheists Conference:
http://hambydammit.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/american-atheists-conference/

Athiest Alliance International _:
http://www.atheistalliance.org/

CFI Student Leadership Conference - " DJ Grothe called our struggle to promote reason a “cultural war”.
http://www.examiner.com/x-14681-Rochester-Atheism-Examiner~y2009m6d30-CFI-Student-Leadership-Conference-2009-wrapup

 

[Mauihund]

yeah, you just went over to another thread to call us monkeys, ya weasel

but that's okay. no matter how heavily we bash each others opinions, these threads are refreshingly devoid of direct insults.

try that in youtube comments on videos either for science or faith, and the next thing you know people are calling you mean names in hopes that you'll cry and be electrocuted by your keyboard.

Oh yeah? Well you started it!


And by the by.....you called yourself a monkey. If you can't get my position correct, at least get my mocking straight. What do you expect when you attack someones beliefs? A request to marry the fairest women from their village?

If you don't like listening to yourself belly ache about someone who finds your superior comments insulting, maybe you ought to show a little more respect for others beliefs.

I'm sure you would want the same treatment.

 

[OregonMeds]

You are either very wrong or you have a hidden agenda. In my humble opinion.

Atheists are organized and purposeful in spreading their vision, their "cultural" agenda.

You have done nothing more than substitute one form of religion for another. Humans were created to worship someone of something. Athism is proof of that.

Here's just the first few conferences and organizasions I found on Google. For your reading pleasure.


American Athiest Conference:
http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/01/05/2009-american-atheists-conference-registration/

Seventh World Athiest Conference 2009:
http://www.sacw.net/article557.html

“Don’t Believe in God? You Are Not Alone,” Aprosilatizing Athiests:
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/27/us/27atheist.html

The Rise of Atheism - Australian Atheist Conference 2010:
http://seantheblogonaut.com/2009/05/the-rise-of-atheism-australian-atheist-conference-2010/

Life Without a Net - American Atheists Conference:
http://hambydammit.wordpress.com/2009/04/09/american-atheists-conference/

Athiest Alliance International _:
http://www.atheistalliance.org/

CFI Student Leadership Conference - " DJ Grothe called our struggle to promote reason a “cultural war”.
http://www.examiner.com/x-14681-Rochester-Atheism-Examiner~y2009m6d30-CFI-Student-Leadership-Conference-2009-wrapup

Clearly you don't know a thing about athiesm it's not a religion period and it's not normal for us to go to any of those things you mention. People don't come to athiesm in the sense you think athiesm is just what non believers are called when they hate religions.

99% of the time we never seek any meetings and of those that do most would never go more than once because it's as stupid as going to church.

The percentage of athiests or non believers that go to any of those has got to be so low it's statistically insignificant. What kind of weight do you think any of those organizations wield? What have they ever even accomplished at all?

If you actually looked beyond the surface most athiest "meetings" are just support groups and nothing more. Life without a god is harder to get through. With no imaginary friend to talk to and no promise of an afterlife where things will finally be better some people feel a need to actually talk out their problems with real people. People that think the same way and don't try to talk jesus to you.

 

[CrackerJax]

The absence of faith is not a belief system.

At the heart of the conflict with the religious is the belief that there is a PLAN. There is FATE, and DESTINY.

Atheists, at least the ones that I meet, when I go to the secret underground meetings at the local catacombs, all logically conclude that life is chaotic and not unlike being in a rowboat in an ocean. When its calm, it's beautiful, but preparation and repairs need to be constantly done, because a storm is always on the horizon. It's just the randomness of life....and death. Some can face it (atheists), and some cannot (religious).

No matter how much you patch ur rowboat, and no matter how fast you bail out the water of chaos, ur boat WILL sink on any given day without notice, and perhaps, on the calmest of days.

Some can face it head on without a myth.

 

[IAm5toned]

How dare you speak of the catacombs on a public forum... the master plan has been compromised!

this was my random flame for the day

 

[CrackerJax]

Ooops... I meant Wal mart... we meet at Wal mart.... look for spandex.

 

[OregonMeds]

I have contacted red leader and I suggest you submit yourself voluntarily rather than wait to be picked up.

 

[CrackerJax]

Ouch...... I understand.

 

[morgentaler]

And by the by.....you called yourself a monkey. If you can't get my position correct, at least get my mocking straight. What do you expect when you attack someones beliefs? A request to marry the fairest women from their village?

If you don't like listening to yourself belly ache about someone who finds your superior comments insulting, maybe you ought to show a little more respect for others beliefs.

I'm sure you would want the same treatment.

I said that we are apes. There is a significant differences between the two.

A belief is only worth the respect it earns. Baseless beliefs without evidence are worth no respect.

If someone announces tomorrow that the cure for cancer is baked beans for breakfast and a gasoline enema before bedtime, unless they have proof their outrageous claims are fair game.

Your pompous religion already dictates that we athiests are going to hell and you are going to heaven (but only 144,000 of you, and then only the Jewish ones, oops), and that you are morally superior to us.

Yet the representatives this "morally superior" religion still commonly beat children for simply writing with their left hand, as recently as 20 years ago. I went to school with some of their victims.

You can demand that I respect the beliefs of a religion that:

• advocates genocide (Jebusites and others)
• advocates kidnapping and rape (Lot's daughter and any command to go into a city)
• advocates murder (Jesus upholding the idea of murdering a child for speaking back to their parents)
• pretends its holy book wasn't designed by committee at the Council of Nicea.

There are two defenses for Christianity:
"The bible says -" and "But we don't know -", and half the time the "We don't know" statements are based on science from prior to World War 2.

Want respect for religion? Show some evidence that it's not just smoke, and mirrors, and god's poor fiscal responsibility.

 

[CrackerJax]

To this day I turn my paper 90 degrees to write with my left hand. After multiple raps with the dreaded pointer (remember those?), my kindergarten nun Sister Mary Gerald (I'll never forget her) finally started turning my paper sideways to prevent me from writing with my left. Much to her consternation, I adapted to it. As a compromise I used my right hand on the chalkboard.

Sister Gerald wasn't a mean person, but determined in her doctrine. I never wished her ill will, but that pointer.... man that thing hurt.

 

[morgentaler]

I'm not sure why the religious right is having problems with the discovery of Ardi...
Just think, now instead of one "gap" where Ardi was, there's now TWO gaps. One on either side. This provides a whole new roosting place for the god of the gaps.

Additionally they are now one million years closer to Flintstone reality.
Yabba dabba doo!

 

[morgentaler]

To this day I turn my paper 90 degrees to write with my left hand. After multiple raps with the dreaded pointer (remember those?)

Even though I grew up in the ass end of nowhere none of my public school teachers ever smacked kids for the left hand.
It was went I moved and met friends who went to christian schools that I found out it was still going on.
One guys writing was completely unintelligible with his right hand, but he just couldn't use his left hand to write any more because they had aggressively abused him any time he attempted to.

If we had been born in the middle ages, there's a good chance we would have been killed for that simple reason. Our lack of belief certainly would have sealed the deal in many locales in Europe.

 

[CrackerJax]

I can still remember my very first day with Sister Mary Gerald....

Now Sister Mary was Polish, first generation, so she had a thick accent, especially for kindergarten kids.

My last name is of Czech origin, but my dad pronounced it more American then Czech.
So the very first day, Sister Mary did the first roll call to gather everyone up for lunch. When she called ur name, you would get up and stand in line by the radiator. Well, she plowed through some names and then hit mine. With her heavy accent I completely did not recognize my own name. She called it out like 4 times, each time with more gusto and consternation. As she "flew" over to her desk to get her class seating chart I remarked to the kid next to me...."whoever that kid is...he's in trouble"...

Well, she yanked me out of that chair spewing forth a bunch of Polish damnings and smacked my arse all the way across the room as she literally dragged me to the radiator. I was bawling like a new pup during Inuit seal season.

When I got home, my Mom was soooo excited as you can expect....
"What did you learn today. Honey"??
"I learned my name" I replied. We're not saying it right!!!

That was the first of many parent teacher meetings.....

At least my parents stuck up for me....

 

[Sure Shot]

If we had been born in the middle ages, there's a good chance we would have been killed for that simple reason.

You know there are a few small tribes in Africa who will kill their own children if their top teeth don't come in before the bottom!
They believe that child to be damned, and any child born out of wedlock is damned as well.

My question is where is God at this juncture?
The father believes wholeheartedly that he is doing God's work when slaying his damned son.
Which one goes to heaven? The damned son or the damned father.

 

[CrackerJax]

SS, this has been a problem that the church readily admits to in regards to Africa. Despite all of their efforts, most of the ppl in Africa adamantly keep their voodoo/primitive beliefs even as they accept the Christian faith (so they can eat).
despite the church's best efforts, they have not made a dent into the native myths which still hold sway.

 

[lopezri]

Okay, I have to admit, I didn't read the whole thread, just some of the things to get an idea of what people were saying. But isn't Leviathan considered a dinosaur in the Bible? I always thought that was what it was referring to. Who knows?

Anyway, I thought I'd mention this book for y'all because it really tied things together for me -
The Secret History of the World: As Laid Down by the Secret Societies

by Mark Booth

Anyway, just thought you might find it interesting.

 

[CrackerJax]

No, a leviathan in biblical terms meant any large sea creature..... a whale would have been called a leviathan.

 

[Green Cross]

I have to wonder if the anti-religious blogger's, who continue to pound the table... actually grow anything?

 

[CrackerJax]

No one is pounding any table..... me thinks ye protest too much.

Feeling frustrated I see.