Thinking about going bubbleponics? This should convince you...

[RPsmoke420]

Roseman - Can I ask what you didn't like about the drill pump ? Was thinking about getting one. Lately I have been using a simple aquarium siphon type hose. Works decent, but doesn't quite get it all and is a little slow.

 

[Roseman]

Roseman - Can I ask what you didn't like about the drill pump ? Was thinking about getting one. Lately I have been using a simple aquarium siphon type hose. Works decent, but doesn't quite get it all and is a little slow.

It was slow, and it got slower and slower, as it got clogged up with small pieces of root. With every drain, you have to "prime" it too. Time I got to my 3rd tank, it was only a trickle and the battery on my drill was dying too.

My regular pump can drain it in less than 3 minutes, maybe two mintues.

My tanks sit on the floor and my aquarium syphone won;'t get it done.

 

[RPsmoke420]

OK, was just curious. I here a lot of people complain about it draining the drill battery. Thanks for the heads up !

 

[lopezri]

You already know what DWC is,a nd many growers use the wrod Bubbleponics as a slang word for DWC, since they have the bubbles from airstones.
A dude in Michigan, a friend of mine, he has a patent and copyright on the word Bubbleponics, and it means growing with Feeder tubes to each cup, from a submersive water pump. A water pumps sucks in AIR or OXYGEN and WATER, and delivers the mix to each root ball or root base, in a rockwoll cube.

on his site he says:

A true Bubbleponics System is my favorite. It uses a submersive water pump, that pumps water to an Irrigation Hub, also called an Irrigation Manifold, that divides the water into 6 streams to each grow cup and root base. It is the MOST rapid growing system available. I can get an average of one inch growth in height daily using the Bubleponics Sytem.

So, What Is Bubbleponics, Exactly?

The world’s first continuous plant feeding system, Bubbleponics is a hybrid design that takes the best from both worlds of the Deep Water Culture (aka DWC, “bubbler”) and drip systems. Since the nutrient mix is highly oxygenated, Bubbleponics converts its drip function to a constant feed flow directly to the inner roots. Without needing to take breaks to allow the root base to drain and absorb oxygen, plants in the Bubbleponic system are able to deliver unparalleled growth energy.

This advantage is particularly pronounced during early vegetative phases when the plant’s root mass is still relatively small. Cuttings placed into the system experience no noticeable transplant shock and practically start growing immediately. In experiments measured against leading aeroponic systems, the Bubbleponic design shaved, on average, four days from a two week growing cycle, a 30% growth rate increase over Aeroponics in the early vegetative stage; truly amazing. As the root mass of the respective plants grow larger, growth rate advantages were less evident, however, the plants in the Bubbleponic planter maintained their 4-5 day lead over the aeroponic plants throughout the cycle.

In a series of stress tests, plants in the Bubbleponic system performed remarkably when recovering from an over-fertilized condition. With almost the entire root mass destroyed, Bubbleponics was able to revive 67% of the plants which started re-growing new roots and were able to complete their cycle. None of the other plants in the aeroponic products survived this stress test. The tests concluded that the Bubbleponic system provided significant recovery advantages over other systems when it came to anything that stressed or killed that root mass.

Hub Feeding Ensures Consistency

The Bubbleponic design is, ironically enough, one of the first hydroponic products to use real irrigation parts. This includes a hub feed system, where the main flow from the water pump is broken up into 6 smaller feeder tubes via a pressure regulating irrigation distributor. No other plant’s sites are thus dependant on any other as they would be in most drip systems that use T’ed designs. This also ensures identical feeding conditions at each site.

Hey Roseman, where do you get the seperation hubs like this? I've looked at my local nursery and Home Depot and Lowes and they don't have them.

 

[Stgeneziz]

I got mine at Home Depot!! it was hard to find but it's there, with the irrigation equip..

 

[Lt Shiny Sides]

Yeah I'm pretty sure they have them at Home Depot but I bought mine online. When all else fails, use the internet.

 

[OregonMeds]

I just bought two of those hubs at lowes they're 8 port with flow adjustment for ea port and only around $8 ea in the irrigation section. They're not in boxes just in bins like the other irrigation parts.

50' of the little black tubing is $3.99

Forgot to get net cups when I was at the grow shop... Shit.

Is it still bubbleponics if I don't use rockwool, just lava? I have plenty of rockwool but don't like to use it if I don't have too.

Also am I supposed to adjust the flow to barely drip? As it is now ea port puts out a steady farily strong stream and I'm just using my smallest pump.

 

[Lt Shiny Sides]

Yeah i don't see why you couldn't do that but it's gonna require a lot of attention.

 

[MostlyCrazy]

OM,

Yes it's still bubbleponics! Media means nothing! Yes, trickle is best and if your pump is small enough that may work out fine. Also your ports on the hub may be adjustable. They also make small adjustable pumps that you can turn down so you get a trickle. Failing all that since you're not using RW, you can put the tube a little further away from the root system so it has to go and get it! If you do it that way mist often at first.

 

[tmsculli]

I'm glad this thread is still going. It has turned into a great one stop reference for seeing exactly what the difference is. I'm glad it's floated away from a flame thread and into something much more constructive as was intended.

 

[Roseman]

Hey Roseman, where do you get the seperation hubs like this? I've looked at my local nursery and Home Depot and Lowes and they don't have them.

PARTS , PUMPS

DiG Six Outlet Irrigation Manifold DiG Six Outlet Irrigation Manifold
Price: $12.99 420Budman showed us one that Lowes has, he said:

The brand name is MISTER LANDSCAPER. It is in the DRIP IRRIGATION section (even says "drip irrigation" on the package), the technical name for it is PVC SPRINKLER ADAPTER (that is on the package too), the item# is 191779, and the model# is MLA-RA9, and the cost is $10.73. My local Lowes had about 9-10 of them in stock.




Rain Bird Landscape Dripline System 2.0 GPH Manifold #MANIF2-1PK
Available at Bizrate.com, Amazon.com, and Home Depot for $4.99 to $5.99


Roseman's DIY Bubbleponics Tutorial - Marijuana Growing

 

[Roseman]

I just bought two of those hubs at lowes they're 8 port with flow adjustment for ea port and only around $8 ea in the irrigation section. They're not in boxes just in bins like the other irrigation parts.

50' of the little black tubing is $3.99

Forgot to get net cups when I was at the grow shop... Shit.

Is it still bubbleponics if I don't use rockwool, just lava? I have plenty of rockwool but don't like to use it if I don't have too. It holds the moisture and has a purpose..you can not start a seed in the rocks.

Also am I supposed to adjust the flow to barely drip?

To a slight trickle. As it is now ea port puts out a steady farily strong stream and I'm just using my smallest pump.[/QUOTE]

let it trickle a weak stream.

Roseman's DIY Bubbleponics Tutorial - Marijuana Growing

 

[Roseman]

Bumpdity, bump, bump

 

[sophanox]

tmsculli this is a wicked post man you should reup the original pictures and add some more if you have any. not only does it display the advantages of bubbleponics over dwc but also provides a good reference for other users as to how well developed their plants should be at a given age.

get on it mate!

 

[sophanox]

bump - no one else agree?!

 

[MostlyCrazy]

I agree Soph!

 

[sophanox]

I agree Soph!

haha thanks mostlycrazy =P - the first post of this thread is too good for it to just fade away - sticky potential imo!

 

[Roseman]

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Roseman and purpdaddys guide for my Bubbleponics setup from Stealth Hydroponic

Roseman's DIY Bubbleponics-DWC Tutorial
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[MostlyCrazy]

I just wish the phote bucket images were still available. Put my LSD's in the bp system last night and they were barely out of the RW and sort of purple like new plants usually are and this morning I wake up to 4 shining green faces look up at me and saying "are you my daddy?" LOL!

 

[squarepush3r]

>The feeder tubes butt into the rockwool cube, delivering a slight trickle, a very slight trickle of bubbley oxygen enriched water and nutes.<

In other words it pumps water up and spits it against the side of the rockwool. And that's the technological breakthrough.

I was thinking, for the first 4 weeks of DWC, you could just raise your water level to meet half way into the net pot. This would essentially do the job of a separate pump that makes bubbleponic "trademark."

anyone disagree?