macinnis
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It's refreshing to see a conservative who isn't bat-shit crazy. You seem like a guy that can have an intelligent debate about ISSUES
does any of you liberals have the big enuf brain too debate me?
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PVS
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thank you
the trouble is that he is arguing before the fact and you are arguing after the fact.
the fact is that iraq had nothing to do with the 9/11 attacks and saddams regime had nothing to do with al qaeda. we went to war in iraq on false pretense, maybe unintentional, maybe a genuine intelligence error, but still false pretense.
macinnis
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Again, I am not going to talk about the details of my service; but know I have served. And I would be willing to bet I outranked you, seeing as how I never had to deal with IED's.
WhateverOne
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shiiit al u fucks are so stupid... I'm from belgium thats Europe to u dum "never looked at a globe before" american fucks.. 
(not trying to be over progressive)
The only chance ur fucking country has to maintain its economy is going in a war for oil...
As always war results in the rich and powerful making money over the ones that are dying from it!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PATRIOTISM OR TURKISH LIKE MUSLIM LANDS WHO HAVE TO BE "FREED" Those people don't need ISAF forces to maintain them self.. Al that did was make those regions more politically instable resulting in more casualties than a war could ever count.. So u, as a patriot of America .. U don't truly care about your own men that died out there.. The ones pulling the strings (powerful internationals,governments also mine government) they don't care about human rights, they just wanna fill they're pockets and enlarge they're power influence... For instance take vietnam.. U REALLY THINK THE NORTH VIETNAMESE could so easily withstand the biggest best equipped army of the world with a tunnel network for what 10 years?? it's very very simple as long as the public opinion in america wanted the war, the war stayed war.. When the public view year after year changed they had to end it... But not without making 10 years of profit of it...!!! And public opinion can be changed if u can pull the strings.. Before the WTC incident about 15% of america was for the war against terror.. after the incident about 70%.. So the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, (Iran?) was set in motion to ensure people with power and money to make them more powerful... Want anouther example.. lets go way back! Back in the 40s american public didn't want anything to do with the war in Europe
(not trying to be over progressive)The only chance ur fucking country has to maintain its economy is going in a war for oil...
As always war results in the rich and powerful making money over the ones that are dying from it!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PATRIOTISM OR TURKISH LIKE MUSLIM LANDS WHO HAVE TO BE "FREED" Those people don't need ISAF forces to maintain them self.. Al that did was make those regions more politically instable resulting in more casualties than a war could ever count.. So u, as a patriot of America .. U don't truly care about your own men that died out there.. The ones pulling the strings (powerful internationals,governments also mine government) they don't care about human rights, they just wanna fill they're pockets and enlarge they're power influence... For instance take vietnam.. U REALLY THINK THE NORTH VIETNAMESE could so easily withstand the biggest best equipped army of the world with a tunnel network for what 10 years?? it's very very simple as long as the public opinion in america wanted the war, the war stayed war.. When the public view year after year changed they had to end it... But not without making 10 years of profit of it...!!! And public opinion can be changed if u can pull the strings.. Before the WTC incident about 15% of america was for the war against terror.. after the incident about 70%.. So the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, (Iran?) was set in motion to ensure people with power and money to make them more powerful... Want anouther example.. lets go way back! Back in the 40s american public didn't want anything to do with the war in Europe
cadeneli
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LMAO! Another CNN fan. If obama would have gotten his way he would have wiped out the CIA! The programs that bush put into place made the bust. Obama just gets the credit. He should blame the terrist bust on bush like he does everything else. You are obviously one of the ones who voted for this guy. Here's one of my favorite Obama quotes, "we live in the greatest country in the world, come help me change it." Hahahahaha chi-chi-chi-CHIA!!!!!!
PVS
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cool story bro!shiiit al u fucks are so stupid... I'm from belgium thats Europe to u dum "never looked at a globe before" american fucks..
The only chance ur fucking country has to maintain its economy is going in a war for oil...
As always war results in the rich and powerful making money over the ones that are dying from it!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PATRIOTISM OR TURKISH LIKE MUSLIM LANDS WHO HAVE TO BE "FREED" Those people don't need ISAF forces to maintain them self.. Al that did was make those regions more politically instable resulting in more casualties than a war could ever count.. So u, as a patriot of America .. U don't truly care about your own men that died out there.. The ones pulling the strings (powerful internationals,governments also mine government) they don't care about human rights, they just wanna fill they're pockets and enlarge they're power influence... For instance take vietnam.. U REALLY THINK THE NORTH VIETNAMESE could so easily withstand the biggest best equipped army of the world with a tunnel network for what 10 years?? it's very very simple as long as the public opinion in america wanted the war, the war stayed war.. When the public view year after year changed they had to end it... But not without making 10 years of profit of it...!!! And public opinion can be changed if u can pull the strings.. Before the WTC incident about 15% of america was for the war against terror.. after the incident about 70%.. So the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, (Iran?) was set in motion to ensure people with power and money to make them more powerful... Want anouther example.. lets go way back! Back in the 40s american public didn't want anything to do with the war in Europe
cadeneli
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And if it wasn't for us you ignorant fuck you wouldn't be here and europe would belong to the fuckin nazi u fuckin dumb mother fuckershiiit al u fucks are so stupid... I'm from belgium thats Europe to u dum "never looked at a globe before" american fucks..
The only chance ur fucking country has to maintain its economy is going in a war for oil...
As always war results in the rich and powerful making money over the ones that are dying from it!! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH PATRIOTISM OR TURKISH LIKE MUSLIM LANDS WHO HAVE TO BE "FREED" Those people don't need ISAF forces to maintain them self.. Al that did was make those regions more politically instable resulting in more casualties than a war could ever count.. So u, as a patriot of America .. U don't truly care about your own men that died out there.. The ones pulling the strings (powerful internationals,governments also mine government) they don't care about human rights, they just wanna fill they're pockets and enlarge they're power influence... For instance take vietnam.. U REALLY THINK THE NORTH VIETNAMESE could so easily withstand the biggest best equipped army of the world with a tunnel network for what 10 years?? it's very very simple as long as the public opinion in america wanted the war, the war stayed war.. When the public view year after year changed they had to end it... But not without making 10 years of profit of it...!!! And public opinion can be changed if u can pull the strings.. Before the WTC incident about 15% of america was for the war against terror.. after the incident about 70%.. So the war in Afghanistan, Iraq, (Iran?) was set in motion to ensure people with power and money to make them more powerful... Want anouther example.. lets go way back! Back in the 40s american public didn't want anything to do with the war in Europe
macinnis
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Do you have ANY evidence of Obama wanting to wipe out the CIA? I'm going to guess no, because that is ridiculous. So far you have shown no evidence for any of your outlandish claims. I'm sorry, but time in theater does not make you a policy expert or even credible, I knew some dumb motherfuckers in the service
cadeneli
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Buddy I spent 13 yrs in the united states army. And if you think high ranking officers don't travel the roads on the battlefield you are sadly mistaken. And evidence? What about your claims? Where's your evidence? Genius
cadeneli
Active Member
I don't care what u did. I was commenting on you saying my rank was low because I was hit with an ied. And if you were a pilot I guarantee u didn't outrank me bud
Cloud City
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Thank you, sir. I try to keep my head on. Id like to apologize on behalf of my fellow conservatives as many of them are suffering from an uncurable diesease know as ODS - Obama Derangment Syndrome. Some folks just cant get over the fact that President Obama won the election and hes been doin a good job. Although I am a far right conservative I do hope to see him continue to succeed in passing healthcare, fixing the economy and ending Bush's wars.
WhateverOne
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But after the Hindenburg (a ship to u dum americans) got torpedo't about 80% of the public wanted an interference and about a million men volunteered to go to war... BUT (and not much americans know this) The Hindenburg was simply sacrificed to make the way to war (and the profits) open! (I'm no nazi no mistakes, somebody who is conservative is more nazi than I am) The nazi's posted a message to the american public in newspapers at the time THE MESSAGE:
DO NOT BOARD THE HINDENBURG IT WILL BE SENT IN TO GERMAN CONTROLLED WATERS WERE THERE ARE A LOT OF U BOATS PATROLLING!!!!
U think the germans wanted to involve america in the war.. they knew they couldn't take that as well as they're miscalculation in Russia... An if u don't believe me newspapers HAVE archives my source comes from the New York times.. But as always america followed in the war because of $$$... And my words are a bit false america didn't go to war..., the people controlling it went to war with it... (and I don't mean the government) How come 5 of ure presidents got executed? Simple in america there's this election system, ALL CORPORATIONS AND RICH INFLUENCED PERSONS CAN PERSONALLY FUND A CAMPAIGN ---> U THINK THIS HAS NO OUTHER SIDE??? Well think clear again (maybe for the first time in your life) So if I have enough money to make somebody president I would get a lot of advantages over my competition meaning changes in law restrictions with do not do corporations well and so on... So in time this would make me more powerful because of this "investment" cause u can call an election that way... DO U THINK THIS GIVES POWER TO THE PEOPLE?? no shit THATS CALLED POWER TO PRIVATE CORPORATIONS!!
Normally if u vote, the one u voted for has to represent u, and all outers voted for him.. But if someone like that gains power by getting the money to fund giant campaigns than he no longer represent u, but the ones who got him there (VERY VERY RICH AND VERY POWERFUL DANGEROUS PERSONS BTW)...!! So the few presidents that got elected, and than did not obey to the funders in advantage of the simple american man... Those good people got shot down...
DO NOT BOARD THE HINDENBURG IT WILL BE SENT IN TO GERMAN CONTROLLED WATERS WERE THERE ARE A LOT OF U BOATS PATROLLING!!!!
U think the germans wanted to involve america in the war.. they knew they couldn't take that as well as they're miscalculation in Russia... An if u don't believe me newspapers HAVE archives my source comes from the New York times.. But as always america followed in the war because of $$$... And my words are a bit false america didn't go to war..., the people controlling it went to war with it... (and I don't mean the government) How come 5 of ure presidents got executed? Simple in america there's this election system, ALL CORPORATIONS AND RICH INFLUENCED PERSONS CAN PERSONALLY FUND A CAMPAIGN ---> U THINK THIS HAS NO OUTHER SIDE??? Well think clear again (maybe for the first time in your life) So if I have enough money to make somebody president I would get a lot of advantages over my competition meaning changes in law restrictions with do not do corporations well and so on... So in time this would make me more powerful because of this "investment" cause u can call an election that way... DO U THINK THIS GIVES POWER TO THE PEOPLE?? no shit THATS CALLED POWER TO PRIVATE CORPORATIONS!!
Normally if u vote, the one u voted for has to represent u, and all outers voted for him.. But if someone like that gains power by getting the money to fund giant campaigns than he no longer represent u, but the ones who got him there (VERY VERY RICH AND VERY POWERFUL DANGEROUS PERSONS BTW)...!! So the few presidents that got elected, and than did not obey to the funders in advantage of the simple american man... Those good people got shot down...
macinnis
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It's sad to see a fellow officer calling the Commander in Chief all these names. I'm just saying, it's allright to disagree with his policy (god knows I did with the last administration). But show some respect to the office and what we fought to defend, Sir.
WhateverOne
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ure funny AND stupid; if america didn't stop the nazi's (and it wasn't america alone) I would have spoken german instead of Dutch, there would be less Jewish people on this side of the world and the europe continental as we now know it would be there a long time ago.. (under nazi control then) WOULD THIS MAKE SUCH A DIFFERENCE? I don't think so.. Eather way they would be stoped with or without america's influence.. (It would just have taken a bit longer)
macinnis
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I think out of respect for each other, we should stop talking about each others time and just stick to the issues.
WhateverOne
Active Member
Perhaps, but there's allot more to know about that than I like to type... An more than I know for sure...
cadeneli
Active Member
We will never be able to fix the split in this country. Its obvious evrywhere you go, even in a marijuana forum. I have my take on things and you have yours. Every great society has crumbled from within and america is no different. Money, greed and power is a bitch. It gets worse with every president we have. What I do know is its killing the little folks, you know, the backbone of the nation. I will leave this one to the experts. I just rolled a big fat nirvana bubblicious doob. (The best night time pain smoke I've found) good night to all and to all a good night! And sorry if I've offended anyone, these debates can get frustrating. I just love this place and I hate to see it in the shape its in! Whomever's fault it is. Peace friends!!!
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chitownsmoking
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wow what political garbade on both sides. fuck the right and left wing. only two right and lefts i care about is my right and left nutt. to hell with ur politics fuck the government has a whole
cadeneli
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Then go find you a left and right nut debate, ass-clown