Who wants bigger gov't??? Please help me understand liberals.

kappainf

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Who wants bigger gov't? Who has faith or trust in gov't/politicians? Why do you have so much faith and trust in gov't?

Okay ambien is kickin in, thats all for now.
 

PVS

Active Member
expanding governmental powers is evil...unless its done by republicans...then its patriotic.
 

PVS

Active Member
I'm pretty sure that expanding governmental powers is def. evil. repubs included.
then we see eye to eye there. i just find it funny how certain others refuse to connect the dots.

its all a farce anyhow. every president expands governmental powers while practicing 'divide and conquer'
by keeping the middle-class bickering among themselves like good little sheep.
 

kappainf

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then we see eye to eye there. i just find it funny how certain others refuse to connect the dots.

its all a farce anyhow. every president expands governmental powers while practicing 'divide and conquer'
by keeping the middle-class bickering among themselves like good little sheep.
Right on, how do you add rep?
 

hom36rown

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The little scale in the upper right hand corner of the posts if you are using the blzin07 skin...I don't know how to do it on the other skins. You can change skins under 'edit options'.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
Notice how they never give a direct answer.

If you approve of Obama, you like bigger government.


If you insist on riding the short bus, u'll be treated accordingly.
 

doc111

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There is hardly any difference between republicans and democrats. IMO they are all politicians who cannot be trusted. Their only concern is making themselves and their cronies more money and grabbing more power. Before too long we will have no freedoms whatsoever. It's time for the American people to wake up and see what is happening to our country.
 

CrackerJax

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There is a big difference between rep's and dem's and ind's. All pol's are greedy, but at least the republicans are pro business and low taxes (most of the time). Business is the engine which powers everything else we enjoy, from roads to feeding the poor.


What we have today is a mindset in D.C. that they are the engine.

It will all end in tears.....
 

doc111

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There is a big difference between rep's and dem's and ind's. All pol's are greedy, but at least the republicans are pro business and low taxes (most of the time). Business is the engine which powers everything else we enjoy, from roads to feeding the poor.


What we have today is a mindset in D.C. that they are the engine.

It will all end in tears.....
I understand the idealogical differences but in reality???? It seems like there is always a hidden agenda. It all seems like a ploy to keep the American people in the dark and fighting amongst each other while the folks in washington are patting each other on the back and lining their pockets. Corruption seems more rampant today than it has ever been in this country.
 

CrackerJax

New Member
I understand the idealogical differences but in reality???? It seems like there is always a hidden agenda. It all seems like a ploy to keep the American people in the dark and fighting amongst each other while the folks in washington are patting each other on the back and lining their pockets. Corruption seems more rampant today than it has ever been in this country.
The reason it seems that way is because whenever the Repukes are in office, most of the media slings mud 24/7. It is the opposite when a democrat gets in.... Obama is like that squared.....and he still complains.... (boo hoo)
 

doc111

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The reason it seems that way is because whenever the Repukes are in office, most of the media slings mud 24/7. It is the opposite when a democrat gets in.... Obama is like that squared.....and he still complains.... (boo hoo)
It's bad, I know. And unfortunately most people get their "information" from one source, which is not good if you want to have a chance of being informed.
 

ancap

Active Member
I don't know. That sounds a lot like anarchy which doesn't work either. Gov't is a necessary evil and smaller is better.
It does sound a lot like anarchy! That word carries so much baggage :)

I'm not trying to prove that market anarchy is the only efficient, non-violent solution to all social problems. Right now all I'm saying is A. government is evil (as you've admitted) and B. it does not work (the government is taking on unsustainable amounts of debt which will lead to an inevitable collapse at some point down the road).

If something is evil, we erradicate it, we do not make it smaller.
 

doc111

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It does sound a lot like anarchy! That word carries so much baggage :)

I'm not trying to prove that market anarchy is the only efficient, non-violent solution to all social problems. Right now all I'm saying is A. government is evil (as you've admitted) and B. it does not work (the government is taking on unsustainable amounts of debt which will lead to an inevitable collapse at some point down the road).

If something is evil, we erradicate it, we do not make it smaller.
Come on....Wherever people live together there needs to be a set of rules. Unfortunately people would quickly get out of control if there is absolutely nothing to stop them from doing whatever they want. Sounds great in theory but one only has to look at human nature to see that this would never work.
 

undertheice

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Come on....Wherever people live together there needs to be a set of rules. Unfortunately people would quickly get out of control if there is absolutely nothing to stop them from doing whatever they want. Sounds great in theory but one only has to look at human nature to see that this would never work.
anarchism does not preclude a set of rules nor an enforcement mechanism to keep those rule breakers in line. it does demand a more altruistic ethos than what we see around us today or at least a more enlightened form of self-interest. no one believes that anarchistic principles can be instituted overnight, but as a goal it is worthwhile.
 
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