My First Grow! DIY DWC & Grow Area, SNOW WHITE FEM FROM SEED!

tmsculli

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See, I made a hole on a set of 4 I made ten minutes ago and took a small cutting to see if it fit and it slid through. I'm afraid of making it too big. Ill poke it a bit more and get it to open up more.



oh snap. that's what she said?
 

tmsculli

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Oh, and Power Hazard meaning what exactly? The light is a decent amount away from all the holes, and from the bottom, which was my main concern. Also, it's screwed in really really well, I made sure it can't fall through. Are there some possible problems I'm overlooking? Surely point them out to me please because burning down a rental property wouldn't go over too well eh? haha
 

Bob Smith

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Oh, and Power Hazard meaning what exactly? The light is a decent amount away from all the holes, and from the bottom, which was my main concern. Also, it's screwed in really really well, I made sure it can't fall through. Are there some possible problems I'm overlooking? Surely point them out to me please because burning down a rental property wouldn't go over too well eh? haha
Sorry, meant "fire hazard", and I was referring to the mogul (is that what it's called?) of the light going through the plastic to get to the surge protector - not sure if that's safe or not, but if you're cool with it, we're cool with it ;-)
 

tmsculli

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Damnit, I just realized that my PH meter was evidently dry the past few days because I lost the cap. Today I finally got it into the re-wetting special formula or whatever to restart the electrode. After that I calibrated it and checked it against my little water test color ph kit. Now accurate, I went to take my daily readings and realized that my mother and my flowering girls were both at a ph of about 5.2. This means that I was obviously aiming for the same number (usually 5.9) and the meter was off by X amount. So, it was only a few days I hope, but now that I have caught it I am going to keep a much better eye on it.

I have had the bulb running in that tote for a while now and there is not much heat at all. Should I try and put some small holes in the top for passive heat rising?
 

tmsculli

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alright, sounds good Bob. I honestly think it may be okay.

It is starting to get a little hot in there though. Should I do some passive intake and exhaust holes in there? I know it's supposed to be hot in there, but I'm not trying to melt them. I could do a computer fan if I wanted, but not sure if it is going to be necessary.


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Trying to edit them so that I don't keep posting more and more. It's way too hot in that tote. Already above 80*. I don't have any computer fans around, but I did find an old Xbox that no one wants anymore that I think im gonna rip open and take the fan out of.


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(10 minutes later)

Got the fan out, easy as hell. So now I just need a 12v power pack guy correct?
 

Shackleford.R

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that cloning tub makes me smile. lol. maybe drill a few holes, but try to be systematic about it. if you put holes up top, you'll need a few down below to create airflow, just holes in the top won't do anything. you need an entrance and an exit. looks like she should work like a charm. congrats!

:peace:
Shack
 

Bob Smith

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alright, sounds good Bob. I honestly think it may be okay.

It is starting to get a little hot in there though. Should I do some passive intake and exhaust holes in there? I know it's supposed to be hot in there, but I'm not trying to melt them. I could do a computer fan if I wanted, but not sure if it is going to be necessary.


EDIT:

Trying to edit them so that I don't keep posting more and more. It's way too hot in that tote. Already above 80*. I don't have any computer fans around, but I did find an old Xbox that no one wants anymore that I think im gonna rip open and take the fan out of.


EDIT:

(10 minutes later)

Got the fan out, easy as hell. So now I just need a 12v power pack guy correct?
Definitely get some ventilation going if possible - 80s okay and won't hurt them too bad, but something around 75 would be primo.
 

tmsculli

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it hit 100 haha. This XBOX fan is fucking awesome haha. I got it wired up nicely. I think I'm going to do some passive intake and then this fan for exhaust. Sound good guys? I'm getting really excited, i think this is going to work!
 

Bob Smith

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it hit 100 haha. This XBOX fan is fucking awesome haha. I got it wired up nicely. I think I'm going to do some passive intake and then this fan for exhaust. Sound good guys? I'm getting really excited, i think this is going to work!
Yeah, that should be fine for that small of a space - good luck buddy :bigjoint:
 

tmsculli

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Fan is in and works great. It's a little noisy, but not a big deal to me at all. I am making sure that the air stone is secured to the bottom then we are gonna kick this guy into gear.
 

tmsculli

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Cuts are made, leaves are halved, stems are on 45* and split in the center.


in the mix.

have to go to class now, I'll post pics of them when I get back.
 

tmsculli

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So, I'm not going to class, but my clones are already flopped over. They look terrible. The leaves are already feeling kinda soggy and stuff. This has happened almost immediately every time I have attempted to clone. Does this mean I am getting the wrong size cuttings or what? Do I have the wrong height? part of the plant? diameter of the stem? too many leaves? I can't figure it out to be honest.

What can I do?

I have read everything there is to read on cloning, but for some reason this just seems like there is something stupid stopping me from succeeding.

Here is what they looked like 20 minutes ago, right after their cut.




now all but one of them are flopped over.
 

Bob Smith

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So, I'm not going to class, but my clones are already flopped over. They look terrible. The leaves are already feeling kinda soggy and stuff. This has happened almost immediately every time I have attempted to clone. Does this mean I am getting the wrong size cuttings or what? Do I have the wrong height? part of the plant? diameter of the stem? too many leaves? I can't figure it out to be honest.

What can I do?

I have read everything there is to read on cloning, but for some reason this just seems like there is something stupid stopping me from succeeding.

Here is what they looked like 20 minutes ago, right after their cut.




now all but one of them are flopped over.
Are you sure that the stems are getting misted very well?

If so, just relax, they'll come back - there's often some shock when they get cut off of their mama - just make sure the stems are staying wet under the styrofoam and you'll be fine.

Just let it happen, grasshopper.

EDIT: what do you mean the stems are "halved"? Also, are you taking the cutting and immediately making sure that it's in water, to prevent any air bubbles from forming in the stem? I assumed you knew that once the cutting is made the exposed root tip has to be put into something (cloning gel, a glass of water, I use my mouth/spit) to prevent an air bubble from forming - are you doing this?
 

tmsculli

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Yea I submerge it immediately in water. The halving I was referring to is cutting the 45* angle, and then from the pointy part, cut up about 1/4". Evidently it hastens root growth. So is it common for them to flop over and then come back?
 

Bob Smith

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Yea I submerge it immediately in water. The halving I was referring to is cutting the 45* angle, and then from the pointy part, cut up about 1/4". Evidently it hastens root growth. So is it common for them to flop over and then come back?
Yes, it is - the technical term for it is "wilting".

Honestly, I've never done that cut up the stem bit, but in the essence of KISS, I'd say it's unnecessary and is probably not very recommended for your first time.

I'd go as simple as possible, and then if you wanna try out new stuff for future runs, then go for it.

You should have as few variables as possible for your first attempt, IMHO.
 

tmsculli

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I agree, which is why I wanted to just do a simple humidity dome, but too many factors were against me. I think I may just be doing it all wrong to be honest. I guess I'll leave them in there and see what happens, but they look terrible.
 

tmsculli

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Hmm, so after I told myself I wouldn't make those holes in the collars bigger again, I did, and they are a bit too big, but I'm dealing with it. I was thinking, the neoprene collars are kinda thick aren't they? Maybe I should use multiple plates? Regardless, I'm ordering some fucking collars right now haha. I don't have enough money to be doing this kinda shit, but I have to.


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The holes I have cut for the net pots are 3", does that mean that I should be getting the 3.75" collars to stop them from falling in? I know many of them are advertised as fitting in the net pot of that size, but that is not what I'm looking for.
 

Bob Smith

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Hmm, so after I told myself I wouldn't make those holes in the collars bigger again, I did, and they are a bit too big, but I'm dealing with it. I was thinking, the neoprene collars are kinda thick aren't they? Maybe I should use multiple plates? Regardless, I'm ordering some fucking collars right now haha. I don't have enough money to be doing this kinda shit, but I have to.


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The holes I have cut for the net pots are 3", does that mean that I should be getting the 3.75" collars to stop them from falling in? I know many of them are advertised as fitting in the net pot of that size, but that is not what I'm looking for.
As long as the collar is bigger then the hole, you're fine - I have 1" holes and 1.5" collars and they work fine.
 

tmsculli

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It seems I may have screwed up then guys. 2" is evidently the standard for cloning, but when I built the cloner lid, I didn't know this. I cut the 3" holes for my netpots, but now I'm not using net pots haha. The 3.75" collars have too big of a center hole to work with clones. Maybe I can buy some 2" collars and then have them sit on the plates to that they fill up the rest of the space?
 

Knickers

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Sculli mang don't bother with the neoprene. Go to your closest grocer, find a polystyrene box that's 1/2" thick and use that. The thick and soft styrafoam will work better than thin hard plates and it will cost nothing.

As for humidity domes, I cloned 5 cutting in my AG without any humidity dome. These clones were treated like shit, yet 4/5 still rooted even with no dome. Mist them twice a day at least in the first week just to keep them going, and they'll do their thing.
 
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