Proper cfl lighting, while incredibly difficult for most to do properly, is superior to hps for the plant. It may not be cost effective and may require daily movement but it is still superior for micro grows. For argument purposes we shall define micro as 16 square feet and smaller.
and diplays not only a lack of understanding, but also indicates that you have never grown with a hps system. you probably think that a cfl that produces 2000 lumens right next to another identical cfl equals 4000 lumens. 
and if you think you are going laugh at that last sentance... i hope you do some research before you post your disagreement and look like an ass.
You will Never, Ever, EVER, EVER ,EVER, EVER.. get good dense bud from cfl's (dense being the operative adjective). you can totally get good bud, that is frosty, tastes good, and gets you stoned with cfl's. but it will always be much better with an upgrade to hps.
16 square feet ???? micro lol , on what planet are cfl's better for flowering than a blazin hps bulb- im not trying to make a fool of you but come on ? if your gonna give advice at least research it dude!!
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Is that one Plant? How long have you been growing for?
Assuming what I believe to know is a sign of a weak argument. I would wager that most anyone who graduated from high school would understand that lumens are not additive. I would even bet that most of those would be able to understand why lumens means fuck all for growing especially when comparing two different lighting technologies. You apparently don't, though. Perhaps you should base your arguments on something solid next time such as scientific research on light absorption.that is totally untrue.
these are 42s, 65s, 85s, 105s and 200 watters.
You realize you're a vapid tool, right?
There is absolutely an advantage of adding cfl's to the flower room....if you need some extra heat!
I really wish I could get back the $100+ I spent on cfl's and the 2 months that I had to bum/buy buds before figuring it out...Oh and the $$amount does not include trying to keep all those little heaters spread all over the place cool!quality thread ...................
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why let ppl follow the same cfl route that we obviously both did to start -
its like - advice is free take it or smoke it lol
do they think we just like having a higher elec bill using hid's--
haaha the mind ponders
great stuff.............
i hit your rep
I got rid of the fungus gnats...but one is trapped in my monitor!
Perhaps you also missed the point of the conversation. It certainly wasn't to make baseless assumptions or generalizations. Especially ones so erroneous that you should be ashamed of posting them.There is absolutely an advantage of adding cfl's to the flower room....if you need some extra heat!
I really wish I could get back the $100+ I spent on cfl's and the 2 months that I had to bum/buy buds before figuring it out...Oh and the $$amount does not include trying to keep all those little heaters spread all over the place cool!
THE ONLY REASON to use cfl's is if you are underage, with no credit card, trying to grow 3 bowls inside of your computer case...Ok...if you are living off grid, and have plenty of solar and a gennie back-up...and it is winter...
CFL's produce less light/watt than HID lighting...where does this energy go that is not converted to light?....HEAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
CFL's are a hot waste of time, money and energy! They are great for lighting a room that needs no photosynthesis.
I got rid of the fungus gnats...but one is trapped in my monitor!
Thanks for the attempt to clear up confusion Roseman! Unfortunately that copy and paste job has nothing to do with the discussion at hand
