2000w Purple Kush 106 Plant Ebb and Flow SOG

[rbahadosingh]

They are marinating in 1500ppm of co2 right now. Temps inside are 77 and humidity is 60%. Im trying to get them down to about 50% but this 25pint dehumidifier isnt getting the job done. I think im going to buy a 50 pint next week because when they get bigger this one isnt going to be able to cut it...........

 

[streetlegal]

Great setup man.. nft/aero/Ebb'n'flo sealed co2 Sog grows are the shit for ease and yield..
Try to say that 10 times really fast hehe

 

[XxNinjaxX]

Looking PHAT man, ive been sitting back watching since the beginning. How tall are they now?

 

[Bob Smith]

They are marinating in 1500ppm of co2 right now. Temps inside are 77 and humidity is 60%. Im trying to get them down to about 50% but this 25pint dehumidifier isnt getting the job done. I think im going to buy a 50 pint next week because when they get bigger this one isnt going to be able to cut it...........

LOL!!!!

Funny, because my dehumidifier is not doing the trick either - unfortunately, don't have the headroom under my table to put a bigger one in there, so I might just get a massive one for whole garage, which should take some pressure off of the one that I have (same one as you).

Also, how many CO2 tanks do you figure you'll be running through for this harvest? I'm on my third in a month of 24/7 vegging, and my tent is half the size of yours - that's why I think I'm just gonna run a natural gas line into my garage and get a generator.

EDIT: Rhaba, do you have your dehumidifier drain into something, or do you manually empty it? Asking because on humid days, it fills up in about a day, and I was thinking of draining it into my clean water reservoir - the water comes out at ~6PPM, which is basically the same as my R/O filter (3PPM) - plus, it'd be nice for it to always be running, that would probably help a ton.

 

[rbahadosingh]

LOL!!!!

Funny, because my dehumidifier is not doing the trick either - unfortunately, don't have the headroom under my table to put a bigger one in there, so I might just get a massive one for whole garage, which should take some pressure off of the one that I have (same one as you).

Also, how many CO2 tanks do you figure you'll be running through for this harvest? I'm on my third in a month of 24/7 vegging, and my tent is half the size of yours - that's why I think I'm just gonna run a natural gas line into my garage and get a generator.

EDIT: Rhaba, do you have your dehumidifier drain into something, or do you manually empty it? Asking because on humid days, it fills up in about a day, and I was thinking of draining it into my clean water reservoir - the water comes out at ~6PPM, which is basically the same as my R/O filter (3PPM) - plus, it'd be nice for it to always be running, that would probably help a ton.

i think i should run through aproximately 8 -10 20lb tanks. i think. maybe a little less. its a good thing the guy at the co2 refill place is cool and lets me trade him some smoke to fill my tanks up. also i dont use co2 during veg. i just wait til flower. i do have my dehumidifier drain into a 3gal bucket. then in the bucket i have a little water pump on a timer that comes on 2 or 3 times a day to drain that water into a rubbermaid tub.

 

[BIGKILLA]

Man you dont no how much i appreiciate the info bro but what you could really help me with is if you could tell me your feeding times and the nutrient streath for each week from when you put the clones in the conditioned rockwool up to the last week of flowering just how many time you ran the pump and the streath in ppms you dont no how much that would help me bro....

 

[Bob Smith]

i think i should run through aproximately 8 -10 20lb tanks. i think. maybe a little less. its a good thing the guy at the co2 refill place is cool and lets me trade him some smoke to fill my tanks up. also i dont use co2 during veg. i just wait til flower. i do have my dehumidifier drain into a 3gal bucket. then in the bucket i have a little water pump on a timer that comes on 2 or 3 times a day to drain that water into a rubbermaid tub.

Holy shit, how many tanks do you have? I have three, so one's on while the other two are getting filled.............shit, I was thinking I'd go through about two tanks (guess that was wrong).

Also looking through "our" dehumidifier manual, and it looks pretty simple to just hook a hose up to it and have it constantly draining out - that being said, if it's not too much trouble and you remember, could you take a pic for me of the setup with the bucket and the hose? Not a big deal if it's a pain in the ass, but it'd be awesome if you could.

Looking forward to some pics, and I'll have some pics up of my ladies this weekend when I get my camera back.

 

[rbahadosingh]

Man you dont no how much i appreiciate the info bro but what you could really help me with is if you could tell me your feeding times and the nutrient streath for each week from when you put the clones in the conditioned rockwool up to the last week of flowering just how many time you ran the pump and the streath in ppms you dont no how much that would help me bro....

when i first put them in the rockwool i flooded every 5 days or so. right now im flooding once a day when the lights come on. after another week ill be flooding twice a day and when they are in full flower and get bigger ill flood 3 to 4 times a day. i use 8ml/gal of flora micro and 16ml/gal of flora bloom the whole way through. the ec is 1.6 - 1.8. after week 3 ill add big bud. that will take the ec to 2.0 - 2.2. i use a bluelab truncheon to measure my nutrient strength. ppm can be converted using the 500 or 700 scale. i dont know what scale your using...

Holy shit, how many tanks do you have? I have three, so one's on while the other two are getting filled.............shit, I was thinking I'd go through about two tanks (guess that was wrong).

Also looking through "our" dehumidifier manual, and it looks pretty simple to just hook a hose up to it and have it constantly draining out - that being said, if it's not too much trouble and you remember, could you take a pic for me of the setup with the bucket and the hose? Not a big deal if it's a pain in the ass, but it'd be awesome if you could.

Looking forward to some pics, and I'll have some pics up of my ladies this weekend when I get my camera back.

i only have 2 tanks. when one is being used the other is getting refilled. my last grow i went through 3 tanks and since this grow is twice as big i figure ill go through twice as many tanks.

and its very easy to setup the drainage hose. you can use a typical garden hose. you just screw it on and open the little flap on the side and put the container that the water drains into back on. but now it will drain through the hose. ill take a picture when i get my camera back on friday for you.

 

[Bob Smith]

when i first put them in the rockwool i flooded every 5 days or so. right now im flooding once a day when the lights come on. after another week ill be flooding twice a day and when they are in full flower and get bigger ill flood 3 to 4 times a day. i use 8ml/gal of flora micro and 16ml/gal of flora bloom the whole way through. the ec is 1.6 - 1.8. after week 3 ill add big bud. that will take the ec to 2.0 - 2.2. i use a bluelab truncheon to measure my nutrient strength. ppm can be converted using the 500 or 700 scale. i dont know what scale your using...

and its very easy to setup the drainage hose. you can use a typical garden hose. you just screw it on and open the little flap on the side and put the container that the water drains into back on. but now it will drain through the hose. ill take a picture when i get my camera back on friday for you.

Firstly, any reason you do the Flora instead of the Floranova? Just curious, switching over to nova for this harvest and I was wondering if you'd had some issues with it or just hadn't tried it yet.

Also, almost spit out my coffee when I read that you're getting your camera back on Friday as well................this went from being funny to creepy - just emailed my mom to see if she gave away my twin brother at birth (will keep you posted).

EDIT: Does the hose need to be pointed straight down immediately or can it be horizontal for a foot or two coming out of the dehumidifier? Wondering if I can get away with a bucket outside of my tent or if it needs to be inside.

DOUBLE EDIT: So you run the hose into a bucket, and have a small pump remove the bucket water a couple of times a day? Does this mean that your pump is running dry for several minutes each time, because you run it longer then it needs to? Asking because for safety's sake that's what I'd do, but as I understand, running the pump "dry" for any extended period of time is a bad move - curious how you get around this. FYI, I'd prolly just be using one of my baby little 185GPH guys to do this job.

 

[rbahadosingh]

Firstly, any reason you do the Flora instead of the Floranova? Just curious, switching over to nova for this harvest and I was wondering if you'd had some issues with it or just hadn't tried it yet.

Also, almost spit out my coffee when I read that you're getting your camera back on Friday as well................this went from being funny to creepy - just emailed my mom to see if she gave away my twin brother at birth (will keep you posted).

EDIT: Does the hose need to be pointed straight down immediately or can it be horizontal for a foot or two coming out of the dehumidifier? Wondering if I can get away with a bucket outside of my tent or if it needs to be inside.

DOUBLE EDIT: So you run the hose into a bucket, and have a small pump remove the bucket water a couple of times a day? Does this mean that your pump is running dry for several minutes each time, because you run it longer then it needs to? Asking because for safety's sake that's what I'd do, but as I understand, running the pump "dry" for any extended period of time is a bad move - curious how you get around this. FYI, I'd prolly just be using one of my baby little 185GPH guys to do this job.

no theres not any specific reason i use the flora instead of the floranova. the flora is what i used last grow. i havent tried the floranova. but i will look into it to see the differences.

lol... i let a friend borrow my camera for a couple of days. but let me know what she say anyway...

the hose does not need to be pointed straight down. mine runs horizontal for about a little over a foot leading to the bucket. the hose just cant be higher than the drain hole you screw it into or it wont drain because its not being pumped out its just draining by gravity. you could run the hose longer as long as the hose has a constant slope so gravity can do its thing. you can get away with the bucket being outside but i think you would have to raise you dehumidifier a few inches. thats why i just put the bucket inside and pumped the water out.

and yes the pump does run dry. it only takes a little over a min maybe even less to pump the water out of the bucket. but its just a cheap $10 pump so im not too worried about replacing it.

 

[Bob Smith]

no theres not any specific reason i use the flora instead of the floranova. the flora is what i used last grow. i havent tried the floranova. but i will look into it to see the differences.

lol... i let a friend borrow my camera for a couple of days. but let me know what she say anyway...

the hose does not need to be pointed straight down. mine runs horizontal for about a little over a foot leading to the bucket. the hose just cant be higher than the drain hole you screw it into or it wont drain because its not being pumped out its just draining by gravity. you could run the hose longer as long as the hose has a constant slope so gravity can do its thing. you can get away with the bucket being outside but i think you would have to raise you dehumidifier a few inches. thats why i just put the bucket inside and pumped the water out.

and yes the pump does run dry. it only takes a little over a min maybe even less to pump the water out of the bucket. but its just a cheap $10 pump so im not too worried about replacing it.

Thanks man, really, really appreciate all the input - I'll get you high at our family reunion

One more question, if you wouldn't mind - been about ten years since I lollipopped, so lemme know if I'm remembering this correctly.

My clones went into flower (topped for two colas) at ~12", so I figure they'll be ~24" in two weeks - was planning on trimming everything from the base of the plant up to about 6-8" - sound about right?

 

[jakethetank]

ya if they are 24 inches, i guess you'd just cut the 1/4 of the lower growth.

 

[rbahadosingh]

Thanks man, really, really appreciate all the input - I'll get you high at our family reunion

One more question, if you wouldn't mind - been about ten years since I lollipopped, so lemme know if I'm remembering this correctly.

My clones went into flower (topped for two colas) at ~12", so I figure they'll be ~24" in two weeks - was planning on trimming everything from the base of the plant up to about 6-8" - sound about right?

yeah that sounds about right. i trim all lower branches that are more than about 2" - 3" up until day 17 of flower. after that they usually just start packing on the weight. I trim once at 7 days. those ones im going to use as clones. and then the ones at 17 days i just toss.

 

[Bob Smith]

Thanks man, appreciate it.

 

[IgrowUgrow]

They are marinating in 1500ppm of co2 right now. Temps inside are 77 and humidity is 60%. Im trying to get them down to about 50% but this 25pint dehumidifier isnt getting the job done. I think im going to buy a 50 pint next week because when they get bigger this one isnt going to be able to cut it...........

Instead of getting a 50pint dehumidifier why not get another 25pint and have one on each side of the room.

 

[delaner59]

I think you should veg longer, maybe 6-8 weeks, and you would have some massive plants. It would be more efficient use of the lights and setup you have for a bigger yield in the end. Just a thought.

 

[Bob Smith]

I think you should veg longer, maybe 6-8 weeks, and you would have some massive plants. It would be more efficient use of the lights and setup you have for a bigger yield in the end. Just a thought.

I like that you're thinking; what you said is basically 100% incorrect, but at least you're making an effort.

As a rule of thumb, the lower the veg time and the higher the plant counts, the more efficient usage of light and larger yields, all else equal.

Anyhow, the OP and most others realize that what you said is the opposite of reality, but please refrain from doing that on other threads where noobs would actually take what you're saying as an informed opinion.

Done threadjack now.

 

[rbahadosingh]

Instead of getting a 50pint dehumidifier why not get another 25pint and have one on each side of the room.

thats a good idea. but the controller only has one input for a dehumidifier and further more i have both trays all the way pushed to one side of the tent. so only one side has extra room. you can see what i mean if you look at the first pictures.

I think you should veg longer, maybe 6-8 weeks, and you would have some massive plants. It would be more efficient use of the lights and setup you have for a bigger yield in the end. Just a thought.

only a noob would say something like that. do a little research buddy... honestly though, do you think 106 plants vegged for 2 months could fit in that space???

I like that you're thinking; what you said is basically 100% incorrect, but at least you're making an effort.

As a rule of thumb, the lower the veg time and the higher the plant counts, the more efficient usage of light and larger yields, all else equal.

Anyhow, the OP and most others realize that what you said is the opposite of reality, but please refrain from doing that on other threads where noobs would actually take what you're saying as an informed opinion.

Done threadjack now.

thanks bob. some people just type without thinking...

 

[fatman7574]

Do you realisethe only real diffrence between a t window aircnditioner and a dehumidifer is the air conditioner blows its clod aoir out the fron t and the dem humidifier sends the air out the back through the condensor whare the air just picks back up the heat just removed from the air. Both the humidifier and the airconditioner use the samr compressor and reft rigerant and the both use a evaporator that is chilled so the water condenses on it. The humidifier is just a smaller version of a window air conditioner at a much higher price per capacity. You can buy a 5000 btu Sears window air conditioner for $98 that removes the same amount of water per 24 hours as a 50 pint dehumidifier with the same size compressor that sells for $199. They use very nearly the same wattage (within about 10 watts) as the window air conditioner. The window air conditioner would need to be tilted a little to one side so it is lower in the rear on one side to catch the water in a container as they do not have a catch tray they usually just drip on the ground outside. All you need to do is merely set it in the grow area not in a window. A good line voltage humidistat is quite cheap on ebay.

 

[rbahadosingh]

Do you realisethe only real diffrence between a t window aircnditioner and a dehumidifer is the air conditioner blows its clod aoir out the fron t and the dem humidifier sends the air out the back through the condensor whare the air just picks back up the heat just removed from the air. Both the humidifier and the airconditioner use the samr compressor and reft rigerant and the both use a evaporator that is chilled so the water condenses on it. The humidifier is just a smaller version of a window air conditioner at a much higher price per capacity. You can buy a 5000 btu Sears window air conditioner for $98 that removes the same amount of water per 24 hours as a 50 pint dehumidifier with the same size compressor that sells for $199. They use very nearly the same wattage (within about 10 watts) as the window air conditioner. The window air conditioner would need to be tilted a little to one side so it is lower in the rear on one side to catch the water in a container as they do not have a catch tray they usually just drip on the ground outside. All you need to do is merely set it in the grow area not in a window. A good line voltage humidistat is quite cheap on ebay.

i dont think i have enough room to fit one of those air conditioners. plus im trying to heat my tent up. not cool it down. the cool will just offset the heat and i need the extra heat from the dehumidifier to warm it up a little.