DST's Vertical Step Grow - Headband and Cali Orange

[DST]

Talking about all this stretch makes me think about my favorite anti stretch tool in HCO's Bushmaster. It's perfect for stopping vertical growth right where you want it to stop. I'm think you've read about it on my thread DST. And I guess you use gravity, so you aren't scared of HCO products. The Bushmaster is just amazing in what it does.

Hey Jig, I may look into this, but I can't admit to thinking about using it before you mentioned it. As far as gravity, I was actually talking about natural gravity (although I have also heard of the product Gravity - probably also from your thread.) Have you used the stuff before on organic grows?

do you mean the product gravity, or the other kind ?

And are u worried about roots violating each other?

Hi T, I was watching the clip on Omega systems on RIU and the guy was talking about how plants rectify themselfs when put under gravity stress, the same theory as super cropping, LST, etc. So by having the plants hanging like that, with the branches tied then gravity will (should) take it's natural course. Which will help with these stretchy girls.

As far as roots violating each other, I done it in a 4 gallon pot before with 2 kush plants, they each produced as much as the single plants (that were in individual smaller pots.) So, no, nae violating going on in the Octopus's Garden.

Me oot,

 

[TrynaGroSumShyt]

cool, good luck with that...i've never seen this done. are you going off of example, or is this a self created project?

 

[DST]

cool, good luck with that...i've never seen this done. are you going off of example, or is this a self created project?

Well most of the vertical grows I have seen have been with hyrdo. Jigs grow is also hydro, but utilises plants grown from the bottom up. Some of the hyro grows I have seen have plants on levels, this guys has his on a grow wall - https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/269407-600w-vertical-medicine-cabinet-grow-6.html

The levels is where I thought about the steps at first. Then the space grew, and so did the levels. Then I was looking at the light going above the vertical bulb. And that is when the shelf thing came in. Was puzzling how to grow them on the shelfs, as I thought once they were in pots that they would then be another foot or so above the light- so just bastardised a few ideas, and slung this together - a bit ghetto, but hey, sometimes thats what feels good

 

[DST]

oh, and I am also thinking of some sort of counter balance/weight to put on the bags when the Yins start getting heavy...

 

[theloadeddragon]

interesting design.....

 

[TrynaGroSumShyt]

oh, and I am also thinking of some sort of counter balance/weight to put on the bags when the Yins start getting heavy...

i would definitely recommend u do that. we dont mind the hanging, just dont want any of the girls going suicidal

 

[DST]

interesting design.....

Cheers TLD, lets hope it works out.

i would definitely recommend u do that. we dont mind the hanging, just dont want any of the girls going suicidal

We could call them, Lemming Skunk plants.

 

[theloadeddragon]

If I understand it correctly, it should work out just fine

 

[jigfresh]

Have you used the stuff before on organic grows?

I have never grown organically... so no.

However... I made a commitment to myself last night to go organic from here on out. So give me 6 monthes or so... I'll tell you all about how to use HCO products in an organic setting.

That's funny I thought you were talking about the other kind of gravity.

 

[TrynaGroSumShyt]

I have never grown organically... so no.

However... I made a commitment to myself last night to go organic from here on out. So give me 6 monthes or so... I'll tell you all about how to use HCO products in an organic setting.

That's funny I thought you were talking about the other kind of gravity.

i like hco.. ive used bushmaster and purple maxx.. but my hydro store doesnt sell it anymore

 

[greenfirekilla420]

I wanna try the bushmaster. Its too late for this grow but next time for sure. I hope I get the OG pheno again with this last seed. I'm seeing the stretchyness of the og in my BUKU girl now. When I read that you found they were stretchy I got excited cause I knew I got the og pheno, she has the classic og huge wide leaves and now the stretch. My clone is the sativa pheno I'm thinking more of a Burmese side to it... I dunno.... I'm baked off some BUKU right now I'll tell ya that much. When is the next bike ride around town DST? I want to see some more pics of the dam.

 

[DST]

I saw the stuff online T, but I guess you have probably seen that. Not sure if you are like me and not to keen on online purchases...

If I understand it correctly, it should work out just fine

All 4 of the girls have now pointed up, so we have a little bit of a banana bend to the stem...which is what I was hoping for. This should get that stem nice and thick. So day 2 all is going to plan sop far.

I have never grown organically... so no.

However... I made a commitment to myself last night to go organic from here on out. So give me 6 monthes or so... I'll tell you all about how to use HCO products in an organic setting.

That's funny I thought you were talking about the other kind of gravity.

It's amazing how the written word can be taken in so many different ways. I am going to look out for this stuff around town.

Thing about my local grow store, they are what we call "Echte Amsterdammers", Echte means Real. So everything to them is simple, You should have seen their faces when I asked them about Metal Halide "oh no, we ushe HPS for evershing, from day 1 yesh!" These guys even have their own fertilzers. But they are a damn cheap store I can tell you!!

I wanna try the bushmaster. Its too late for this grow but next time for sure. I hope I get the OG pheno again with this last seed. I'm seeing the stretchyness of the og in my BUKU girl now. When I read that you found they were stretchy I got excited cause I knew I got the og pheno, she has the classic og huge wide leaves and now the stretch. My clone is the sativa pheno I'm thinking more of a Burmese side to it... I dunno.... I'm baked off some BUKU right now I'll tell ya that much. When is the next bike ride around town DST? I want to see some more pics of the dam.

Hey GFK, yup, they do seem to be lanky ladies. If I compare my last summers grow where I vegged with daylight, the Headbands were like little stalky girls, and the OG's were nearly 30% taller. I'd be interested to see what gravity (the product) would do to the OG's. I saw it online for like $200 for a gallon (seems pricey - but then I am a tight ass Scot)

If you wanna see some of my latest pics of the dam, go to this thread by Jesters missus
https://www.rollitup.org/inspired-art/148770-some-photos-i-took-87.html

I will put some more up in this thread just for you though GFK!!!

Have a good day guys (and ladies, if there are any lurking around in the shadows)

 

[theloadeddragon]

I have never purchased anything online, and will never..... no.... I have friends that don't mind ordering things though

 

[DST]

Nice link DST, thanks. Alien's seed bank looks superb. I was looking at the
Jock Horror and that Wos Legend From New York 47 -- 3 seeds for 19 euro
plus shipping. They claim THC % is >20

Nice to see your bunch of ladies growin' up a bit... I think It's about time to
take Thelma and Louise to the prom. Ask them if it's alright, k?

Well Scotty, don't mean to bite you, but today I ordered the NY47 that you had your beady eye on....as you say, the 20% plus was very interesting (for only 19 euro). I also ordered the Black Jack fem and some Mango seeds that I may try some crosses with. I think I will use the Black Jack for my outdoor grow in the summer. They said it can get up to 3metres!!! fek yeh, that would be interesting for the neighbours....plus I haven't seen a greenhouse to buy that is that high!!!

 

[rollmeUPoneSCOTTY!]

Well Scotty, don't mean to bite you, but today I ordered the NY47 that you had your beady eye on....as you say, the 20% plus was very interesting (for only 19 euro). I also ordered the Black Jack fem and some Mango seeds that I may try some crosses with. I think I will use the Black Jack for my outdoor grow in the summer. They said it can get up to 3metres!!! fek yeh, that would be interesting for the neighbours....plus I haven't seen a greenhouse to buy that is that high!!!

Haha, nice one. Man can't to see that finish out...

3 meters!?! Whew! Let's hope it turns out to be just as
much of a winning hand as advertised.

Yep, gonna have to get crafty n whip up yer own little 3 meter-
friendly contraption.... Not a problem for you I presume with
all of the crap you got lying around
-you know I mean that in a positive fashion

 

[DST]

Haha, nice one. Man can't to see that finish out...

3 meters!?! Whew! Let's hope it turns out to be just as
much of a winning hand as advertised.

Yep, gonna have to get crafty n whip up yer own little 3 meter-
friendly contraption.... Not a problem for you I presume with
all of the crap you got lying around
-you know I mean that in a positive fashion

I know, I was spying a place in the corner of my garden, thinking of doing like a tomato plant thing, with a couple of blackjacks thrown in:

I could probably put one of these together, as this is only 1m70 I think (or possible 1m50, but along these lines...it's only 35 euro to buy. After buying all the extra little bits of crap I would end up needing to make one, I would be as well buying something like this. Perhaps my wife will let me put them in the green house we are supposedly getting...we shall see. I've not even had a bloody email confirmation from them yet.

 

[rollmeUPoneSCOTTY!]

What if ya try and connect two of them together- stacked you know? Cut off the roof on the lower tent, connect it to another on top?

 

[DST]

So after the request of GFK, You wan pikcha!, I give you pikcha......

Here's a few pics of my late afternoon, early evening cycle ride, with quite a large break in between. The sun was setting so I headed up to a place called Nemo. This is like a science centre - great for taking your kids to. When we have visitors we always take them along and I sneak off to the pub (never actually been inside apart from the cafe.) It looks kinda like a sunken ship, some may recognise it. But you can walk all the way up its stairs. So that's what I done, well I actually ran, so if the shots are fuzzy...that's why.

The names of them are on their attachments, but a sample for anyone who doesn't want to browse. These are all cropped and reduced so that they can be uploaded.....I hate that!

Sunset - Amsterdam from Nemo

I wanted to put this up not because of the Grasshopper. But because of the Beurs van Berlage - a Dutch architect who predominantly used bricks for all his buildings of many different shapes and sizes. So it's on the right of the afore mentioned coffeeshop.

This was taken not in the red light that most people go to, but the one behind the Nieuwezijds voorburgwal, near to the Grey Area - Teerketelsteeg. I just thought it was great these kids playing football with the Red lights in the background.

And of course, for the Bong stop - Xmas at the GA.

Peace,

DST

pic of plants will follow - perhaps tomorrow.

 

[greenfirekilla420]

I was planning on picking up some of the HCO bushmaster but the funds just werent there when it was time. Oh well I'm cracking a pure haze seed to grow 12/12 from seed I'll try the bushmaster on it when she starts stretching like crazy.

 

[greenfirekilla420]

And wow those pics are amazing. I can't wait for the day I get to take a trip out to the dam been wanting to go since I was a teenager....