Shrubs Journal, Cindy, Toejam, Big Bud, God's Gift

goatslayer

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Boy that was all lot of chemicals in the first pictures. Looks great though, how did you get 2 600's to stay cool in that 5x5 area? I tried to run 2 600's and it would go all the way up to 87 and I got 450cfm outake and 2 6" intakes so I gave up and went with the light mover. It's a 4x9 space.
 

Shrubs First

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Boy that was all lot of chemicals in the first pictures. Looks great though, how did you get 2 600's to stay cool in that 5x5 area? I tried to run 2 600's and it would go all the way up to 87 and I got 450cfm outake and 2 6" intakes so I gave up and went with the light mover. It's a 4x9 space.
Ya, I use the full line-up by Humboldt Nutrients, highest quality out there.. Not
so much chemicals as they are Premium Amino Chelated Nutrients... ;)

I have the 2 600's running in-line and they are ducted freely into the room my hut
is in. I have a 250 CFM in-line fan dedicated to keeping the hoods cool, (they are
cool to the touch). As well as a 100CFM fan as an intake ducted in from an open
window which I have sealed off, and I have a 250 CFM outtake out of the top.
With this I could keep the temps as low as I want... 40's even... but I keep them
between 72-76.

No temp issues here, only Humidity...
 

goatslayer

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Got to be the outside air, I just pull air from my kitchen. I live in an apartment so venting in or out the window would draw attention. I'm legal eagle nowadays but still don't want the landlord to know.
 

Shrubs First

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Ya the outside air keeps it plenty cold.... I live in an apartment too...
I just closed my blinds, and put a cardboard box up over the window,
Stapled and duct taped in place, then cut a hole in the box, and attached
a backdraft damper, and then my ducting to that, you can't see that I am
venting through the window because my blinds are closed..
 

Drella

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oh my god, theyre starting to point up, the skys the limit. you're right, all nug! thinking, would bigger intake or exhaust change humidity next time?
 

Shrubs First

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oh my god, theyre starting to point up, the skys the limit. you're right, all nug! thinking, would bigger intake or exhaust change humidity next time?
haha, ya they are gettin some serious weight to them, I'm hopin it doesn't slow down.

There isn't much i can do to change the humidity aside from a dehumidifier....

The problem is in my off cycle my temp drops just enough to raise the humidity
enough to turn on my intake/exhaust which brings in cold air, which further drops
temp, which further raises humidity, blah blah blah, its a pretty vicious cycle, the
only thing i can really do to prevent it is keep my tent open in the off cycle, which
is alright considering that whole room is light tight...



Anyhoo,
I'm watering tonight,
Doin a light flush with the following

10 Gallons Chlorine/Sediment Filtered Water
90 mL Hygrozyme
50 mL Flavor-Ful
50 mL Hum-Bolt
100 mL Humboldt Honey ES
ppm 240 pH 5.9

Just waitin for my temp to hit 72 and then I'll be feedin
 

Drella

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wow, do you have a regulator that kicks ur on ur exhaust at a certain humidity, if so that's awesome. co2 question- in my humble 4x4x6 bloom room what would you suggest for co2? would one of those home made, diy deals work? or do those not put out enough? how much would a legit co2 setup run me, ball park, for my size room.

also hows that hygrozme? what does it do. the bottle says it's like a neccesity, ive wondered what it does? you're right though, i wouldn't want the density to stop increasing, think big my nuggies!
 

Shrubs First

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wow, do you have a regulator that kicks ur on ur exhaust at a certain humidity, if so that's awesome. co2 question- in my humble 4x4x6 bloom room what would you suggest for co2? would one of those home made, diy deals work? or do those not put out enough? how much would a legit co2 setup run me, ball park, for my size room.

also hows that hygrozme? what does it do. the bottle says it's like a neccesity, ive wondered what it does? you're right though, i wouldn't want the density to stop increasing, think big my nuggies!
Yea, my control wizard does temp and humidity, and controls the co2 (which I don't use)


as for co2 in your room, your room is 96 cubic feet, and we can assume that
you want to be at roughly 1200 ppm, to find the cubic feet of co2 we need to
displace that area you multiply the room volume, 96, by .00012 = .11 cubic feet.

Which really isn't that much, not even worth it to buy a regulator and a can.
Which would be 150 for the regulator 150 to rent the co2 canister.
It's almost worth it to do dry ice, you would probably only need like a quarter of
a pound a day..

But realistically, if you have enough intake/outtake/air movement,
co2 isn't a necessity, yea it is proven to raise yields immensely if
used very well, but if not utilized correctly, you'll be wondering if it's even doing
anything.

Hygrozyme, this is a very high end product,It is an enzymatic solution loaded w/
complex chains of amino acids. It breaks down matter and makes food more
readily available to plants, it increases the speed of naturally occurring chemical
reactions by something like 15,000,000 times. People who grow with
Hygrozyme grow better than if they weren't growing with Hygrozyme, it really is
that good...

That being said here are some more pictures, today is Week 6 day 5 or Day 39
















She is about 18 inches tall, I would like them to be around 24 inches, maybe next time :-D

mmmMmmm Good.

Questions/Comments/Ratings bring it
 

Drella

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they look amazing. very clean. did you trim before you threw into flower? do you trim little leaf patches during flower. it looks like you're concentrating the light energy to nugs that are going to make it. Ok, so that's what i thought about the co2. i always hear air movement is key, exhaust is more important than intake. i have a 4" inline ehausting air, and cooling my light. i have a 8000 btu window air unit for intake. going into my bloom room, one word to describe it, weather. thank you for the expert knowledge, it means a lot. If i need a comparison, i'll do the 1/4lb dry ice/ a day next time.

def'n, gonna take ur advice on the hygrozyme, do you use it between feedings? keep up the good work!
 

Shrubs First

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Yea i use it every time I water, except in the final 2 weeks of flush.

It will help break down the nutes that are still in the soil in between
feedings, so its a great mid feeding flush additive, along with
Humic Acid Concentrates, and Fulvic Acid Concentrates, they
have very similar responsibilities but different none the less.
 

Shrubs First

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BTW, many feeding schedules recommend during peak
feedings to be adding up to 15-20 mL of Hygrozyme
per gallon, this is a SHIT LOAD, I don't go over 10 on my
max, it won't burn if you go over, but it doesn't really
do anything more if you do go over 10, so 10 mL per gallon
is the max...
 

Drella

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defn noted, i won't go over 10ml. defn will save some doe either way. merry xmas man, hope ur not snowed in! family in CO said it's blizzardy, but sunny today.
 

Shrubs First

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Thanks guy, ive been workin my ass off, harvest should be in 3 weeks...
I'll be havin a gay old time around january 16th
 

Shrubs First

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Wurrrd, so today is week 7, day 4... Day 46 Flower

Feeding tonight..

90 mL Humboldt Master A
90 mL Humboldt Master B
20 mL Cal-Mag Plus
1/2 tsp Big Up Powder
30 mL Ginormous
100 mL Hygrozyme
150 mL Humboldt Honey ES
90 mL Budswel
1580 ppm, pH 6.1 temp 66 degrees F
 
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