[ph Problem?] 4th Week of Flowering, 1st Time Growing
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elduece
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What bunch of morons.bump.....
You are overfertilizing your soil.
MG works great. In fact I'm using it right now in one my first indoor plants atm. My experience with ANY potting soil, they typically need to be cut(20-30%) with perlite and put some dolomite lime(with this most of your ph issues will disappear) in there(1 tbls per plant or per gallon of soil during mixing). For cannabis in planters, don't use sand for drainage. With that soil, I wouldn't use any kind ferts AT LEAST after six weeks into veg with that MG soil -you probably didn''t need any nitrogen ferts in that stage anyways -I never had to use any vegetative ferts so far. It's powerful stuff. I would've started the bloom ferts into their second transitioning week of flowering. By that time all the time releasse nutes in the soil will be mostly used up. When feeding, do water, water, feed not water, feed, water, feed because ammoniacal concentration in those ferts that tend to linger for a while in the soil. There's my 2 cents. Good luck
cowboylogic
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How do you know the ph meter he borrowed is shit? He did not say anything about what type it was. And why would you flush every week? You make no sense.
cowboylogic
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Just set your clear cup inside of the red cup. Then all you have to do is lift, look and set back in. Best of both worlds.
B DUB
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Sounds like all the Miracle Grow IDIOTS who have used NOTHING else really know what they are talking about. First off I use organis nutrients so that is completely different and yes you should by decent nutrients. Its like trying to muscle build to become Arnold Schwartzenager and eat6ind McDonalds thbree times a day. K keep thinking like that.What bunch of morons.
You are overfertilizing your soil.
MG works great. In fact I'm using it right now in one my first indoor plants atm. My experience with ANY potting soil, they typically need to be cut(20-30%) with perlite and put some dolomite lime(with this most of your ph issues will disappear) in there(1 tbls per plant or per gallon of soil during mixing). For cannabis in planters, don't use sand for drainage. With that soil, I wouldn't use any kind ferts AT LEAST after six weeks into veg with that MG soil -you probably didn''t need any nitrogen ferts in that stage anyways -I never had to use any vegetative ferts so far. It's powerful stuff. I would've started the bloom ferts into their second transitioning week of flowering. By that time all the time releasse nutes in the soil will be mostly used up. When feeding, do water, water, feed not water, feed, water, feed because ammoniacal concentration in those ferts that tend to linger for a while in the soil. There's my 2 cents. Good luck
Follow my grow. I will be posting pics every saturday. It just past week 3 last saturday. I will be weighing the 5 plants in the end and everything. https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journal-discussion/289770-kush-grow-op-violator-kush.html
mr.smileyface
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miracle grow is very strong so you should 1tbsp per gallonHey all,
First off, I just wanted to thank this site for providing me with almost all the information I needed to learn this stuff. Seriously, thanks!
This is my first time growing, started with two plants but one went hermi and luckily my other is a sexy lady.
Now, don't hate (too hard at least) that I am using less than ideal ingredients because of cost factors and no hydroponic stores conveniently nearby.
The details:
-Bagseed (from some nice stuff)
- 136 W CFL (two 68 W)
-Soil (Miracle Grow Organic Choice Potting Mix with sterile desert sand mixed in for drainage)
-H20 about every three days (when it dries), nutes every other watering.
+Nutes:
-Miracle Grow 24-8-16 for veg (5 1/2 weeks)
-Miracle Grow Bloom Booster 15-30-15 (4th Week)
-I borrowed a pH meter from a friend, measured tap water and run-off, and got 5.5 for both. Not sure if that sounds right...
The plant started growing too tall in the beginning of flowering, so I lightly LST'ed it to slow vertical growth.
My problem:
Some (not all, more towards the top) are starting to turn brown at the tips and outsides of leaves. I saw the other post on common problems and I think it might be pH, but I wanted expert opinions.
Any and all help/comments are greatly appreciated
GeeTee
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have u even used MG or do u jus read others post and go on wat other ppl say? u prbly dont even have experiance wit MG. if u havent tried it then dont knock it .obviously ur 1 of them types that think the more money u spend the bttr shit will b. true in sum cases but not all the time. how bout u go spend $1000 on sum IQ bud seeds from bcseeds and let me noe how that turns out
B DUB
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Actually I have used it and my seeds failed and I had to go buy different soil and nutrients because I use miracle grow soil with perlite and the nutes. But okay sounds good Im glad its working for so many of you.
elduece
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Cannabis is a PH tolerant plant. PH issues with soil grows are actually rare unless your initial runoff samples are out of whack like 5.0 or 8.5 ph.
And you're calling others idiots? YOur offering bad advise.
Idiota. You haven't read my entire post. Only one of my current plants is planted in MG soil because I ran out of Ocean Forest/Light Warrior during my plantings. And guess what? It's has more sugary trichs than the rest of my canopy(I'll follow up with comparison pictures with guano fed/liquid ferts if you want). Also, the MG soil has begun using a liquid fert.
You should not use nutes on seedlings especially in MG soil. That is why you shouldn't jump to conclusions about MG on this thread.
mr.smileyface
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Isnt it all chemicals? its all the same either in power or liquid. Liquid is more water based and made for hydro systems. So people use them for both. Its kind of like a multi vitamin. All the same nutes but a differnt brand. Obvs some brands will have better additives like amino acids.
Now some brands are better for growing no doubt..But when your on a tight budget the first couple or if your using it for outdoor.Its better to start off cheap if you dont know what you are doing. If you were to use MG i would recommend that you limit the dose and add something like diamond nectar. If your in soil and useing MG watch out, limit your dose and see what happends. Use a 1/4 strenght.
ive grown with MG and got some good tasty outdoor. I did 1 tablespoon per gallon and gave them 2 gallons each twice a week with a good heavy water in between. They were put out in july at a foot tall and didnt get much sunlite . Maybe a few hoursonea day. From feeding them MG i got a qp off each 1. I had 4 of them and they were 6 tall and tied down because of the fench. i got a P of grapefruit. They were in the ground a week before bud. They were in 5 gallon buckets and i transplanted in potsoil in a per dug hole and gave them MG. Its all the same shit. Mg will work fine as long as you know how much to give them. When you make more money you should buy a "SET" they will know at the store.
elduece
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Both soils were mixed with the same additives
20-30% perlite, 2 tbl high N/P Guano, 1 tbl high N Guano, 1 tbl garden lime, 4 ounces+ bonemeal, handful amount earthworm castings, per gallon soil.
First 4 pictures are the MG regular stock soil. And the last 4 pictures belongs to the FF.
These two plants has recently begun it's nutes. Apparently,no nutes were needed during veg process for both these plants -six wk.
These two are out of the current seven out of 12 originally vegged. The MG one pic'd is using Technaflora flowering recipe/Sugar Daddy watering and the FF one has begun a high N/P blooming tea mix/molasses watering. This is my first grow btw.
Notice the MG looks much more sugary than the FF one which was exhibited long before the feeding had started. Also the MG is in a smaller planter(1.6 gallon) than the FF wich is in a 3-4 gallon planter. Do a side by side comparison between 1st and 5th pictures.
BTW, to the point, all seven plants has a consistent 6-6.5 ph runoff at every watering and feed so far. Garden lime is the SHIT!
20-30% perlite, 2 tbl high N/P Guano, 1 tbl high N Guano, 1 tbl garden lime, 4 ounces+ bonemeal, handful amount earthworm castings, per gallon soil.First 4 pictures are the MG regular stock soil. And the last 4 pictures belongs to the FF.
These two plants has recently begun it's nutes. Apparently,no nutes were needed during veg process for both these plants -six wk.
These two are out of the current seven out of 12 originally vegged. The MG one pic'd is using Technaflora flowering recipe/Sugar Daddy watering and the FF one has begun a high N/P blooming tea mix/molasses watering. This is my first grow btw.
Notice the MG looks much more sugary than the FF one which was exhibited long before the feeding had started. Also the MG is in a smaller planter(1.6 gallon) than the FF wich is in a 3-4 gallon planter. Do a side by side comparison between 1st and 5th pictures.
BTW, to the point, all seven plants has a consistent 6-6.5 ph runoff at every watering and feed so far. Garden lime is the SHIT!
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GeeTee
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dude wtf are u talking bout? im not the 1 wit problems wit mg.