CIA takes a hit in Afghanistan
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PadawanBater
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Exactly. What the fuck was the ridiculous amount needed to even get a spot in the debates? A figure I heard at one point was up to $60 million dollars! What the fuck kind of ordinary citizen or honest politician working without enormous contributions (otherwise known as bribes) from corporate America can raise that kind of money? Go check who got the most contributions during the race... Gee, coincidence?
Good post tebor.
yellowrain53
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id say the deck is not stacked in our favor. thats the reason i dont trust the party system we currently have......because the electoral process will only allow for a select few of the "elite" to participate. its like football; whether you like the Bears or the Broncos, the NFL shareholders care not.
tebor
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fuck the CIA for their involvement in the turkish invasion and takeover of Northern Cyprus.
and fuck them for their attempted assassination of Makarios III.
the CIA had Cyprus radio broadcast that he was dead even though he wasn't.
the punk bitches.
they did the same thing in Santiago, Chile in 1973 when they failed an assanation attempt on Salvado Allende.
they succeded in Chile a month later with the overthrow of a democratically elected gov.
In 1954 the cia participated in the overthrow of Democratically elected gov. in Guatamala.
the cia backed the Iraqi regime change of 1963 and were responsible for the deaths of leftists in the country.
In 1964 the CIA aided the overthrow of a democratically elected government in Brazil. 21 year military dictatorship ensued, supported by the CIA of coure.
CIA was responsible for another regime change in Iraq in 1968.
they are also inderectly responsible for bringing Saddam to power.
kissinger and the CIA are directly responsible for the Greek anti-American terroist acts in the 70's and 80's.
1966 Republic of Ghana, overthrown by CIA.
and You all know about their long history in Iran and Afghanastan.
also the CIA smuggled drugs at least 3 different times.
Read the wiki for CIA influence on Public opinion scary shit.
thats just the tip of the iceberg in their long list of atrocities.
fuck the CIA. All CIA agents deserve worse than what they got.
the CIA is unamerican.
and fuck them for their attempted assassination of Makarios III.
the CIA had Cyprus radio broadcast that he was dead even though he wasn't.
the punk bitches.
they did the same thing in Santiago, Chile in 1973 when they failed an assanation attempt on Salvado Allende.
they succeded in Chile a month later with the overthrow of a democratically elected gov.
In 1954 the cia participated in the overthrow of Democratically elected gov. in Guatamala.
the cia backed the Iraqi regime change of 1963 and were responsible for the deaths of leftists in the country.
In 1964 the CIA aided the overthrow of a democratically elected government in Brazil. 21 year military dictatorship ensued, supported by the CIA of coure.
CIA was responsible for another regime change in Iraq in 1968.
they are also inderectly responsible for bringing Saddam to power.
kissinger and the CIA are directly responsible for the Greek anti-American terroist acts in the 70's and 80's.
1966 Republic of Ghana, overthrown by CIA.
and You all know about their long history in Iran and Afghanastan.
also the CIA smuggled drugs at least 3 different times.
Read the wiki for CIA influence on Public opinion scary shit.
thats just the tip of the iceberg in their long list of atrocities.
fuck the CIA. All CIA agents deserve worse than what they got.
the CIA is unamerican.
CrackerJax
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Let's hear some KGB stories ... 
doc111
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Excellent point CJ. Intelligence by it's very nature is about deception and misdirection. At least we didn't carpet bomb Guatemala.Let's hear some KGB stories ...
CrackerJax
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Seeing the forest in the trees takes a big perspective.
medicineman
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Exactly! that's why I don't hold much truck with your posts. You are really one sided and "can't see the forest for the trees.". Examples can readily be seen when perusing your posts. You see everything from one perspective and have no room for opposing or different views, Maybe if you widened your horizons, you could accept a little tolerance, JMHO.
doc111
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If this isn't an example of the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.
Operation 420
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Are you serious? Never lost anyone I knew eh?its easy for somone not to support a war if they havnt lost ones dear to them from the enemy isnt it
works both ways doesnt it
you ever seen one of your familiy members murdered in front of your eyes......
People are very good at disconnecting themselves and not feeling any emotion when its not thiers that have been murdered in cold blood
you try to make it simple, but its not simple is it, its complicated and mixed with lies,
all we can do is our best and thats not perfect
you like to blame your nation first, i know my nation is the best hope out there for my family and my arabian brothers overseas
so until you know what your taking about, you have no clue imo
carry on boys i gotta dose me dragon
Our nation as it stands now is the best hope to start WWIII if we don't get real people in there. Not politicians that can be bought and sold. If we were actually fighting for OUR freedom and security, not Israels, it would be ok.
Funny, nobody talks about Darfur. Want to be heroes to the world and stop a genocide? Go there.
P.S. Big Pun was a wife beater bro, lol. Good rapper though. /peace
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PadawanBater
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Irrelevant. KGB wasn't out there claiming the moral high ground. Everyone and their mother knew the KGB was corrupt.Let's hear some KGB stories ...
Operation 420
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Yeah, the KGB pulled no punches. CIA acts like the heroes of the world when they are actually an extension of Mossad.
CrackerJax
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Oh, KGB is irrelevant huh ...
Checkmate.
Checkmate.
medicineman
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The premis of this thread was did the CIA deserve the hit. I said yes. They have been responsible for more bloodshed and chaos than any other US entity outside of the US military, and probably precipitated most US military action. I am sorry for the families of the fallen, but for the fallen themselves, they knew they were in a dangerous dirty business and went for it whole hog. It is the nature of war to take casualities on both sides. I'm presuming we are at war with the taliban and this is one of the ways they work. If you are in a war zone, you are subject to be killed at any time by any means. They were, and I have no sympathy for them. they were there stirring shit and killing Afghans.
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PadawanBater
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Exactly.
The if the publics perception of the KGB was anything like that of the CIA, Crackers analogy would be valid, but since they couldn't be any more polar opposites, it doesn't really work. Sure the KGB did horrible shit, but everyone knew that's what they did. The CIA puts on a farce "we don't torture" - "we use harsh interrogation techniques"... makes everyone think they're these super good guys working for the benefit of America, when in reality, just like Med said, they go around the world and stir shit up, then leave the taxpayers to clean up the mess years down the road...
The CIA should be eliminated.
medicineman
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.I admit I have my opinions, but I am way more flexible than most conservatives, especially Cracker.If this isn't an example of the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is.
I do see some of the conservative policies I'd like, like fiscal responsibility. I just see a different way to achieve it, like cutting the defense budget to the bone. Eliminating most of the secret services, etc. I'd like to see my country actually care about it's citizens instead of trying to control them and punish them (most prisoners per capita on the planet). I see Health care as a right, not a privelege for the wealthy. I could go on, but you all know how I feel about the government, less is more, Another conservative principle. If a government agency is not helping it's citizens, then in my humble opinion it should be eliminated. JFYI, the income tax is a necessary evil, it's how it is spent that is criminal.
doc111
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Nothing wrong with being opinionated but seriously, everybody thinks that THEY are more open to things. I agree with you that the govt. is fucked up but is more govt. the answer? I tend to think it's the problem. I'm all with you on eliminating govt. agencies which aren't working too. History should be our teacher. When govts get too big and have too much influence in its citizens' lives it's never a good thing. We are losing liberties at an alarming rate and some of the things you mention are doorways to more govt. control in our lives. I would like to see healthcare fixed but how can you justify govt. control when you don't even trust your own country to defend you. You hate the military, you hate the CIA. How can you like the idea of govt controlling your healthcare? You are a very confusing individual.
