My thoery for big fat females !

That 5hit

That 5hit

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now i understand, thoses are much better pictures and yes i would say the science is working those are some of the fatest hoes ive seen on here bro
what is the name of that nute you are useing

for me - i can def. see the density of those nugz wish you would'ev posted those first

now all i need is to know your method do you have a thread for that stuff
 
eza82

eza82

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That 5hit said:
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now i understand, thoses are much better pictures and yes i would say the science is working those are some of the fatest hoes ive seen on here bro
what is the name of that nute you are useing

for me - i can def. see the density of those nugz wish you would'ev posted those first

now all i need is to know your method do you have a thread for that stuff
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Gday mate,
They are as hard as rocks. And almost as heavy ...lol
IN FLOWER I use;
1.5Mx1.5m E&B table pots and coco; 1000W HPS + 400W MH + UVB 4ft fluro
NUTES: Cana coco, Pk13-14, Silica, Rock Juice,
Additives; H2o2, NAA, GA3, Fulvic acid.

Here are some of the research threads & Links I used:
My threads
THC - CBD CBN - MAKE MORE USEING UVB`s/ UVA`s..CHEAP&SIMPLE.?!!
HORMONES Vs Co2 - Hormones cheaper potentially yield same !
HORMONES/PGR`s/VITIMANS - RESEARCH THREAD ONLY.
LA FEMME - FEMALE HORMONE- for sex change !
Gibberellic acid three (GA3) - Growing GIANTS
Research Links;
http://www.growmoreweed.com/
http://www.rhs.org.uk/
http://www.plant-hormones.info/
http://www.biology-online.org/11/10_growth_and_plant_hormones.htm
http://www.plants.uwa.edu.au/
http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/118902508/home?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0
http://www.plant-biology.com/
http://carnegiedpb.stanford.edu/
 
eza82

eza82

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Anybody wanna rip it apart ? I am open to suggestion ? Its a yr old, but I still stand by it !

Or ask questions about it ?
 
riddleme

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don't want to rip it up it was a great grow

but in response to the title of the thread I would like to share my experiment and sorry has nothing to do with the fert you were discussing

This is first day of week 6 under one 65 watt cfl with an added T9 (see avatar) plant is 21 inches tall

sorry for the pic I just ordered a new camera better pics next week :bigjoint:

Edit plus a better bud shot from a few days ago, so you can really see her
 

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eza82

eza82

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Looks good !
Finding what works for you and your environment is the hardest trick of this hobby !
 
tyke1973

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There is only one way of finding the best females and this can not be done from femanised seeds sorry to say.You need to get a good seed supplyer someone like attitude always have fresh seeds in stock.Once you have germanated the seeds then after about two week the seedlings will all be at differant heights some will have done better than others.But at this point you don't know whitch are female and whitch are male so get them under a good lighting system.Once the plants have a good few set of leaves on take a couple of clones of each plant.Give it 2 more weeks till the clones have a small root mass then put these clones to flower just one out of each set of two you took.Has soon has the plants show there sex then this is the time to see if some of the clones are doing better than the others the ones that are doing better hold the good genes that you are after.There are bound to be a few small females and most growers would grow them on but i always ditch these and save the space for clones of the clones that are doing realy well.It is easy to spot if a plant will be good for flowering the biggest and healthyest are the ones that you seek out.Also the good part about this kind of growing is once you have these good genetics you can keep them for has long has you need them.But i like to always have a little space in the grow room so that you can put some new clones in this will anable you to have a plant finish one week and two week later another will finish.You can have a contniue crop like this but i would take 2 plants and have a 2 week gap between each plants finishing.So 8 plants with 2 week intervals will give you a crop every 2 week and when the last plant finishes the next lot go in this way 8 plants can last you for a very long time.But this style of growing is best done with the same strain or ones that grow in pretty much the same way.Also the growroom don't have to be huge to do this style just flower the plants at just under 1 ft and will normaly end up at round about 3 ft tall giveing you a ounce to a ounce and harf.This means that you have 30 grm to smoke every week and i smoke for medical reasons and it last me.Just make sure thatyou have the lights near the tops of the plants so that your plants don't become leggy,Leggy plants are no good to the grower the internode distance has to be close so that your plants produce the largest crop possible.Hope this has helped............................................................tyke....................................................................................
 
eza82

eza82

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tyke1973 said:
There is only one way of finding the best females and this can not be done from femanised seeds sorry to say.You need to get a good seed supplyer someone like attitude always have fresh seeds in stock.Once you have germanated the seeds then after about two week the seedlings will all be at differant heights some will have done better than others.But at this point you don't know whitch are female and whitch are male so get them under a good lighting system.Once the plants have a good few set of leaves on take a couple of clones of each plant.Give it 2 more weeks till the clones have a small root mass then put these clones to flower just one out of each set of two you took.Has soon has the plants show there sex then this is the time to see if some of the clones are doing better than the others the ones that are doing better hold the good genes that you are after.There are bound to be a few small females and most growers would grow them on but i always ditch these and save the space for clones of the clones that are doing realy well.It is easy to spot if a plant will be good for flowering the biggest and healthyest are the ones that you seek out.Also the good part about this kind of growing is once you have these good genetics you can keep them for has long has you need them.But i like to always have a little space in the grow room so that you can put some new clones in this will anable you to have a plant finish one week and two week later another will finish.You can have a contniue crop like this but i would take 2 plants and have a 2 week gap between each plants finishing.So 8 plants with 2 week intervals will give you a crop every 2 week and when the last plant finishes the next lot go in this way 8 plants can last you for a very long time.But this style of growing is best done with the same strain or ones that grow in pretty much the same way.Also the growroom don't have to be huge to do this style just flower the plants at just under 1 ft and will normaly end up at round about 3 ft tall giveing you a ounce to a ounce and harf.This means that you have 30 grm to smoke every week and i smoke for medical reasons and it last me.Just make sure thatyou have the lights near the tops of the plants so that your plants don't become leggy,Leggy plants are no good to the grower the internode distance has to be close so that your plants produce the largest crop possible.Hope this has helped............................................................tyke....................................................................................
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Sorry but WTF ????????????
Is this just dribble about a fem seeds and growing plants ? Talk about barking up the wrong tree. Read the theory again it has nothing to do with Fem seeds or growing for newbies ?
How dose that hold any relevance to my theory ?
 
That 5hit

That 5hit

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eza82 said:
Sorry but WTF ????????????
Is this just dribble about a fem seeds and growing plants ? Talk about barking up the wrong tree. Read the theory again it has nothing to do with Fem seeds or growing for newbies ?
How dose that hold any relevance to my theory ?
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after reading his shit about 4 times
i figuered out that he was trying to genneticly pic the fat bitch- like if you meet some fat bitch on the street that wants you to date her child , you'll be saying to yourself that her child is going to be fat also- so he's saying instead of pumping the plant full of chems , you could just grow from seed and only keep the fattest hoes that grow- i have also noticed this, that when you grow from seed that some plants produce fatter budz then others so i guss if you have time he way would work also
but i wonder what would happen if you pic the genneticly fattest bitch and chemicly inhanced her - merging both ways - obeast budz :wall:
 
eza82

eza82

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Sorry tyke1973, was a bit pissy last night missed your point completely.

But agreed, that to have the potential best genetics of strain , you would have to plant 1000`s of seed and pick the queen from them.
I always start from fem seed but only use 10, and pick best 2 and narrow that down again after 3 wk flower.
 
Jester88

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i was going to reply/quote reply to this thread but now i cant be fucked lmfao. ez knows where i disagree with some of his theorum but he also knows when and with what i agree as well.

just thought id say that perhaps this researtch yourt on about isnt that hard to look up and refine before enitial tests yourself, there are sex reversing hormones/chemicals out there so why not do a bit of research with them as yiour base points.

another point when breeding i find best to keep away from adding hormones and whayt not were trying to pic the plabnts elite genetics, sure the changes can carry to offspring but this can also end up breeding out or degrading in some cases.

the name of one is escaping me (its known for making it more potent and the subseqent gens but will breed out)

anothers cilcholine and the polyploid state sometimes it will pass off in offspring but a vast majority will die or lose it meaning the trait wont carry on through them. not always though

anyhoo to that 5 shit
the product uyou seek is u-turn (first and most likely the only time ill name it for a while) and i personally advise against it as theyve done no test on prolonged human consumption, that being said heaps of people use it. my mate at the dro store sells it that fast.... its good to have a look at though and experiment. afterall they sel it so it cant be that bad huh??

its a two part set and requires a carrier to aid in chelation and what not. ive mentioned the process of how tit works many times before. basically this is the only way i know of that will allow your plant to yield more than its genetic capabilities allow it too normally. result buds double to treipple the normal size.

i must say you seemed a bit of ann ass to begin with but now youve got your answer will you be a happy chappy from now on??
 
eza82

eza82

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Hey Jez !
lol, thanx for input champ, looks like you have taken a breeders take on the hobby ?
I want to look more heavily into breeding , starting in 6 months or so once shit settles after our move.

@JESTER88 "another point when breeding i find best to keep away from adding hormones and whayt not were trying to pic the plabnts elite genetics, sure the changes can carry to offspring but this can also end up breeding out or degrading in some cases."
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Agreed, Hormones should not be messed with for many many reasons, and especially if breeding. Finding the right genetic specimen should be done in almost organic conditions, not necessarily the most ideal.
 
DaveTheNewbie

DaveTheNewbie

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heya Esra / Jester, long time no see!

eza82 said:
IN FLOWER I use;
1.5Mx1.5m E&B table pots and coco; 1000W HPS + 400W MH + UVB 4ft fluro
NUTES: Cana coco, Pk13-14, Silica, Rock Juice,
Additives; H2o2, NAA, GA3, Fulvic acid.
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mate from what i understand H2o2 is a big nono with coco :)
coco, and most good coco ferts are full of organic goodies. Fulvic (which i love) is also organic. H2o2 will kill or ruin all that goodness.

i personally dont like canna brand nutes, too much N in flower, but thats just opinion.

if your gonna use silica (and i love that too) make sure you use budlink not silica magik or any other cheap nasty concentrated form, it leeches the chemicals in the ferts.

i used a combined fulvic/humic acid additive, but i love organic stuff :)

and ignore That Sh1t, he is a tool that will ride your nuts for a while then dissapear :)
 
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