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its like the wako texas wackos, they may have some followers but they are just gulible noobs letting thier daughters get raped by the twisted David koresh
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you Liberalral fucks.
David Koresh didn't rape anybodys daughter. Quit spreading lies on subjects you know nothing about.
Tell me something about Waco and David Koresh that you didn't hear first from Dan Rather you koolaide drinking broken records.
Fuck Reno and Clinton for burning down the Branch Davidian.
They are murderers.
they tried to justify it by coercing a girl into saying that Koresh has sex with her when she was 12. (gov. coerced staements and confessions mean nothing to me)

Koresh did nothing wrong.
so he married a 14 year old, so did Jerry Lee Lewis.
so would any rational man. If Nature says a person is ready to reproduce, then they are ready.
the Branch Davidian was around many years before Koresh was even born.

you liberal koolaide drinkers.

I feel ya man! I seem to remember footage of women being executed by the Taliban for reading, or going to school or leaving the tag on her burka.
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conveniently aired in primetime no doubt, to garner support for the invasion from emotionally responsive people.


what about the genocide and ethnical cleansing in Sudan?
Oh yea. Sudan is of no strategic importance.
 
tebor said:
Koresh did nothing wrong.
so he married a 14 year old, so did Jerry Lee Lewis.
so would any rational man. If Nature says a person is ready to reproduce, then they are ready.
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I'm willing to bet everything that you don't have a 14 yr. old daughter. :roll:

Coming from a woman who had her children at 16 & 19, I can say with authority that a teenager is not "ready to reproduce"... emotionally nor physically.

Further, I've never known a grown, rational man who wanted a little girl for his bride. Grown, rational men want grown, rational women by their sides.
 
I can say with authority that a teenager is not "ready to reproduce"... emotionally nor physically.
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nature would disagree.
My mother maried my father when she was 16. 40 something years later they are still happily married
 
That may be (and somehow I knew you'd have an example to "prove me wrong" on this), but it is a fact that your parents are far from the norm.

I'd like to hear your view on this when some man decides he's "ready to reproduce" with your 14 yr. old daughter.
 
tebor said:
you Liberalral fucks.
David Koresh didn't rape anybodys daughter. Quit spreading lies on subjects you know nothing about.
Tell me something about Waco and David Koresh that you didn't hear first from Dan Rather you koolaide drinking broken records.
Fuck Reno and Clinton for burning down the Branch Davidian.
They are murderers.
they tried to justify it by coercing a girl into saying that Koresh has sex with her when she was 12. (gov. coerced staements and confessions mean nothing to me)

Koresh did nothing wrong.
so he married a 14 year old, so did Jerry Lee Lewis.
so would any rational man. If Nature says a person is ready to reproduce, then they are ready.
the Branch Davidian was around many years before Koresh was even born.

you liberal koolaide drinkers.


conveniently aired in primetime no doubt, to garner support for the invasion from emotionally responsive people.


what about the genocide and ethnical cleansing in Sudan?
Oh yea. Sudan is of no strategic importance.
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do you consider yourslef a liberal? that was one of the best positions i have ever heard on waco. those people were killed in cold blood by the govt. i was sick for weeks after that.

so can we say that govt kills far more peopel than christians? by a long shot


hmm i wonder who ws in charge then.....
 
Katatawnic said:
I'm willing to bet everything that you don't have a 14 yr. old daughter. :roll:

Coming from a woman who had her children at 16 & 19, I can say with authority that a teenager is not "ready to reproduce"... emotionally nor physically.

Further, I've never known a grown, rational man who wanted a little girl for his bride. Grown, rational men want grown, rational women by their sides.
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you have obviously never been to a foreign nation. kinda the norm over about half the world.
 
jeff f said:
you have obviously never been to a foreign nation. kinda the norm over about half the world.
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True, but he was referring to men in our society, and said that "any rational man" would want a girl in her early teens, and how "ready to reproduce" they are (when in fact they're not; maturity aside, risk of death and defects are high). That was what I was arguing, not societal differences.
 
Katatawnic said:
That may be (and somehow I knew you'd have an example to "prove me wrong" on this), but it is a fact that your parents are far from the norm.
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You must have ESP.

but you already provided an example.
Your children turned out ok, I would bet. But you claim you were not ready?
Age of consent by country:
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But that is beside the point,David Korsh did nothing that justified the unconstitutional ATF and the ugliest person I have ever seen(Reno) murdering 80+ people.
That is beside the point as well.
Koresh raped nobody as the other poster claimed.
That is the point.
 
Katatawnic said:


True, but he was referring to men in our society, and said that "any rational man" would want a girl in her early teens, and how "ready to reproduce" they are (when in fact they're not; maturity aside, risk of death and defects are high). That was what I was arguing, not societal differences.
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you play on words "early teens" makes me sound like some kinda freak.

I said when nature says your ready, you are ready.
any rational man would want a prime mate for reproduction.
not some one in decline.
can you provide source of information that teens face risk of death and defects?
I will doubt this claim until I see proof.


also I wasnt referring to men in our society. I said "any rational man"


And no Jeff. I wouldnt consider myself a liberal nor conservative. I just think that the spin that attempts to justify the massacre at Waco by the federal gov. is a liberal spin.
 
tebor said:
Your children turned out ok, I would bet. But you claim you were not ready?
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I don't claim anything. My first son was premature, stillborn, eventually revived, and suffers from it 22 yrs. later physically and developmentally. Came very close to losing my second son, as well. My pregnancies and labors were extremely dangerous for me and my babies both; the majority of the problems were age-related. Young parenthood also exacerbated my (yet unknown) chronic pain and illness to flare me into permanent disability, symptoms that most likely wouldn't have gotten so extreme until I was much older, had I had children when I was a bit older and my body more ready. Just because my kids and I are "OK" doesn't mean we're all that healthy. Good doctors saved our lives, but our lives have indeed suffered from it all the same.

But that is beside the point,David Korsh did nothing that justified the unconstitutional ATF and the ugliest person I have ever seen(Reno) murdering 80+ people.
That is beside the point as well.
Koresh raped nobody as the other poster claimed.
That is the point.
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According to young girls in Koresh's video, he was the father of their children. In this society, that is indeed rape; statutory, if nothing else. That was my point.

Didn't the ATF, et al, admit to "being wrong" about how Waco went down? (I know they didn't say "murder" but you know what I mean.)
 
According to young girls in Koresh's video, he was the father of their children. In this society, that is indeed rape; statutory, if nothing else.
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Age of consent in Texas was 14 at the time. His wife was 14. So its not rape.

All the girls that he supposedly had children with were of legal age. But they were all murdered by Janet Reno, so we will never know if they actually had his children.
 
tebor said:
you play on words "early teens" makes me sound like some kinda freak.
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Early teens is early teens. There's no "play on words" about it. Thou dost protest too much, methinks.

I said when nature says your ready, you are ready.
any rational man would want a prime mate for reproduction.
not some one in decline.
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WTF? A young woman in her '20s is "in decline" already? :shock: WOW!

can you provide source of information that teens face risk of death and defects?
I will doubt this claim until I see proof.
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Look it up, talk to medical professionals, try to remember health classes in school. I've no desire to look up well known and long established statistics and facts for someone who acts as if this is unheard of.

also I wasnt referring to men in our society. I said "any rational man"
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You referred specifically to David Koresh and Jerry Lee Lewis; you typed it, I quoted it. Last I checked, they were both men in our society. :roll:
 
Somebody explain the Waco incident to me. I know nothing about it.
 
Look it up, talk to medical professionals, try to remember health classes in school. I've no desire to look up well known and long established statistics and facts for someone who acts as if this is unheard of.
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I did look it up. and there are risks associated with lack of prenatal care in teen pregnancy, but research suggests that when adequate prenatal care is given the risks are the same as non-teens.
 
PadawanBater said:
Somebody explain the Waco incident to me. I know nothing about it.
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The ATF, the FBI and Janet Reno killed a bunch of Christians without any provocation. they were a little weird maybe, but didnt deserve to die.
then the govt. tried to accuse them of burning their on compound down, when the video footage clearly show tanks ramming and firing into the compound.

If you look it up, most of the info will be biased.
The documentary Rules of Engagement is pretty informative.
 
tebor said:
The ATF, the FBI and Janet Reno killed a bunch of Christians without any provocation. they were a little weird maybe, but didnt deserve to die.
then the govt. tried to accuse them of burning their on compound down, when the video footage clearly show tanks ramming and firing into the compound.

If you look it up, most of the info will be biased.
The documentary Rules of Engagement is pretty informative.
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So what stopped these people from being brought to justice? I would like to think if something like that happened today, justice would be served.
 
Just another crazy religion cult gone awry. They did receive their justice. A Camp of pedophiles, using religion as an excuse.
 
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