methylone injections

aattocchi

Well-Known Member
And how can you say it is not dangerous? Can you tell me about 3,4-methylenedioxymethcathinone testing on either animals or humans? Can you tell me the long term (or even short term) side effects?

It is dangerous enough using something that has not been tested or approved for human consumption, nor the potential side effects, but to use them in that high of a dose intravenously, is simply, fucking retarded.
you're cool as shit, i'm a fucking retard, blah blah blah.

i didn't say this was safe, all i asked is if anyone has had a similar experience. Yet again another stuck up fuck from rollitup. the mind set of most people in this community is amazing. all most people here can do is resort to name calling and put downs. I love the few!

why do you care what my friend does to his body, are you his keeper?
 

tebor

Well-Known Member
its not about what your friend did as much as somebody reading it and repeating.
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
its not about what your friend did as much as somebody reading it and repeating.
It's both.. my concern for his friend repeating the experience and having adverse effects scares me as much as a random person recreating the experience.
 

tebor

Well-Known Member
Very true. doing it is dangerous and careless. posting it on a forum is irresponsible and dangerous.


Anyone reading should not try this. But im guessing anyone with common sense will not try it.
 

aattocchi

Well-Known Member
IV is definitely the way to go with this substance, but please do not use him as an example when experimenting with RC's. He is very aware of the risks and was working with a very pure specimen. definitely safer then a bag of smack bought off the streets.

does anyone else have similar experience with this chemical?:peace:
notice that i was never condoning the use of methylone intravenously in the first place.
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
notice that i was never condoning the use of methylone intravenously in the first place.
Notice, you were only called out for stating:

methylone is not as dangerous of a substance as most would make you believe.
And then stating:

with the ROA he had chosen the delivery of the substance into his blood stream was very quick which made this substance highly addictive.
With a substance that has little to no testing (in any regards), and with a user who abuses a substance (or irresponsibly uses, however you'd like ot word it), and grows a tolerance to the point where they could inject the LD50 (for similar substances)... That my friend, is indeed very dangerous no matter how you look at it.

I'm just busting your balls to talk some sense into your friend so you don't have to wake up to a phone call of, "He passed away earlier this morning." That is not a fun phone call to wake up to, and it sucks having to see their family when it happens knowing if they didn't fuck around with random chemicals they would still be alive.

So I'm not trying to be offensive, I'm just saying, if you're not extremely well educated with these substances, they can destroy you.
 

aattocchi

Well-Known Member
Notice, you were only called out for stating:



And then stating:



With a substance that has little to no testing (in any regards), and with a user who abuses a substance (or irresponsibly uses, however you'd like ot word it), and grows a tolerance to the point where they could inject the LD50 (for similar substances)... That my friend, is indeed very dangerous no matter how you look at it.

I'm just busting your balls to talk some sense into your friend so you don't have to wake up to a phone call of, "He passed away earlier this morning." That is not a fun phone call to wake up to, and it sucks having to see their family when it happens knowing if they didn't fuck around with random chemicals they would still be alive.

So I'm not trying to be offensive, I'm just saying, if you're not extremely well educated with these substances, they can destroy you.
I understand what you are saying and i know what my friend is doing is very dangerous. he has done many different types of RC's using this ROA, 50 plus. he knows the risks involved with messing around with untested substances and is very careful (most of the time). normally he experiments with straight up phenylethylamines and tryptamines, the methylone and mephedrone endeavour was something quite new for him, most other chemicals he has dabbled with had no psychological dependency with him what so ever.

I think we got off on the wrong foot and i'll be the first one to admit that using 6 grams of methylone in a twelve hour period wasn't one of the best ideas my buddy has ever had. He wasn't planning on the whole endeavour taking that turn, but the drugs took hold. Methylone is more psychologically addictive than cocaine in my opinion. he ordered 5 grams, receiving 6 and had no idea it would grab him by the balls like that.

Trust me when i say my friend will definitely be taking more precautions when injecting methylone again(like ordering a smaller bag or waiting untill most of his bag is sold off), but he will never stop experimenting with RC's this way.
 

aattocchi

Well-Known Member
So i am guessing i am the only person that has done anything like this in this community, sorry if i offended anyone. I was just wanting to discuss the experience with this chemical and the ROA. Please remember that at no time was i condoning the use of any drug intravenously and if i phrased something to seem that way, i was only referring to myself in general. i would hate to feel accountable for someone else trying this out and not having a pleasant experience like i did.
 

tebor

Well-Known Member
So how does this ROA w/ methylone compare to oral or insufflated?

My only experience with this ROA was with cocaine a long time ago.
Never again. Especially not with the moreish substances like methylone or mephedrone.
I could see maybe with the psychs.
 

aattocchi

Well-Known Member
So how does this ROA w/ methylone compare to oral or insufflated?

My only experience with this ROA was with cocaine a long time ago.
Never again. Especially not with the moreish substances like methylone or mephedrone.
I could see maybe with the psychs.
In a dream i had the feeling was instant and the injection site burned a little, some good advice would be not to miss cause it can be quit painful.

I also dreamt I have an order of 20 grams of methylone and 20 grams of mephedrone coming in the mail, which should be here sometime soon. The order was placed on the 7th of this month so i am hoping it gets here tomorrow. when it arrives i will sit in front of my computer and attempt to explain what I am going through as it is happening. It is very hard for me to try recalling every detail of my experience and even harder for me to put into words something I felt almost two weeks ago.

I will sum it up for now though. the methylone was very similar to MDMA as i have done MDMA both ways also, for some reason it felt like the duration of the experience was an hour or two shorter with the methylone when consumed orally.

In the dream, my body was very sensitive to my girlfriends hands and i had an urge to communicate and bond with her on a level we had never been on before(she has never done MDMA before and it has been years 5+ since i have taken any, a few months before we hooked up). I felt shivers run through my body every time we embraced each other and even had shortness of breath(in a good way). I was very disappointed when the effects were gone in about 3 hours which felt more like 30 minutes. Like I said though, it is very hard for me to put the experience into words and I feel i would have to document the experience as it is happening.

In the dream, when I injected the methylone into my blood stream the feelings were intensified 100 fold. the only difference is that when we were using it intravenously we hardly communicated at all and never touched each other once. It was more about the drug this time and getting high. when we consumed it orally it felt more like we did it to bond, not get all cracked out on the shit. We just sat there until the whole 6 grams were gone in a 12 hour period and instead of feeling like she was my best friend i felt more like the needle had taken her place. I had no urge to have a sexual experience like we both had the first time when we did it orally.

In my dream, orally we bonded with each other, intravenously we bonded with the drug.

In my dreams, I still love the feeling both ways, but plan on using it orally a few times with here first before we start using it intravenously, but both experiences were very euphoric, just different in their own little ways.

I will post the intravenous experience when it arrives as it happens because when we consume it orally it gets very personal and XXX rated, lol.

All of what I am saying here is from a dream I had and I am not saying or admitting to ever breaking the law!
 

aattocchi

Well-Known Member
I could see maybe with the psychs.
In a dream i had, my favorite substance to use with this rout of administration is DMT, I always have such a profound experience and feel like i am communicating with some sort of entity that lives in my subconscious mind or should i say in every living organisms subconscious. I would chose DMT intravenously while listening to TOOL in some head phones over any substance in this world.

You can't just try to inject DMT after performing an extraction though. You must clean it up a lot and convert it into a salt, I used citric acid in my dream.

All of what I am saying here is from a dream I had and I am not saying or admitting to ever breaking the law!
 

ANC

Well-Known Member
Personaly I can't listen to tool on DMT, it jsut doesn't fit the serenity I experience, some shpongle i can deal with, but at effective doses I can't hear the music most of the time.
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
"We just sat there until the whole 6 grams were gone in a 12 hour period and instead of feeling like she was my best friend i felt more like the needle had taken her place."

That is the worst thing I think I have read on here so far. Hey I'm gonna go get some shit and get my g/f and myself hooked on it and go boot up six (motherfucking) grams and then tell everyone about it!

better yet...

"I also dreamt I have an order of 20 grams of methylone and 20 grams of mephedrone coming in the mail, which should be here sometime soon."

Because SIX GRAMS in TWELVE HOURS was not enough, I think I'll get TWENTY GRAMS more.. ah! Ah! Ah! Better yet, I will get an extremely addictive substance (many folds more than methylone) MEPHEDRONE!!! And once I get hooked on it and get my girlfriend hooked on it, we will be fucked! WOOHOO!

This thread should be closed... people like you are why drugs get banned!
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
"We just sat there until the whole 6 grams were gone in a 12 hour period and instead of feeling like she was my best friend i felt more like the needle had taken her place."

That is the worst thing I think I have read on here so far. Hey I'm gonna go get some shit and get my g/f and myself hooked on it and go boot up six (motherfucking) grams and then tell everyone about it!

better yet...

"I also dreamt I have an order of 20 grams of methylone and 20 grams of mephedrone coming in the mail, which should be here sometime soon."

Because SIX GRAMS in TWELVE HOURS was not enough, I think I'll get TWENTY GRAMS more.. ah! Ah! Ah! Better yet, I will get an extremely addictive substance (many folds more than methylone) MEPHEDRONE!!! And once I get hooked on it and get my girlfriend hooked on it, we will be fucked! WOOHOO!

This thread should be closed... people like you are why drugs get banned!
Its either get drugs banned or one fantastic story to show how bold and out of your brain you truly are!
 

shepj

Oracle of Hallucinogens
Its either get drugs banned or one fantastic story to show how bold and out of your brain you truly are!
I don't find addiction, nor anything associated with it to be bold, nor a fantastic story, mind you I do agree with the "out of your brain" portion.

There is no need for substances to be banned, with education and sensible/responsible use, side effects can be narrowed significantly (if not avoided all together), but to take something that has absolutely zero research behind it and abuse the everliving motherfuck out of it (along with getting people around you hooked on it), is absolutely immature and irresponsible.
 

ndangerspecimen101

Well-Known Member
I don't find addiction, nor anything associated with it to be bold, nor a fantastic story, mind you I do agree with the "out of your brain" portion.

There is no need for substances to be banned, with education and sensible/responsible use, side effects can be narrowed significantly (if not avoided all together), but to take something that has absolutely zero research behind it and abuse the everliving motherfuck out of it (along with getting people around you hooked on it), is absolutely immature and irresponsible.
That was a big KNEE SLAPPER SHEPJ, right on!

ONLY if illegal drugs can come with dosage and possible side effects... same as prescription or OTC drugs... that would make for one renown drug dealer ;)
 
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