Supreme Court rolls back spending for Corporations

[ink the world]

LOL I couldnt believe this when I saw it last night.

USA TODAY:

"Government cannot restrict corporations from spending money to influence political campaigns, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday in an opinion that immediately reverberated across the political landscape"

Hmm I wonder who all the all oil companies, electricity companies, defense companies and Wall Street are gonna buy, umm I mean donate to.

Elections will all go the highest bidder now. Now that's democracy

 

[Illegal Smile]

LOL I couldnt believe this when I saw it last night.

USA TODAY:

"Government cannot restrict corporations from spending money to influence political campaigns, the Supreme Court ruled Thursday in an opinion that immediately reverberated across the political landscape"

Hmm I wonder who all the all oil companies, electricity companies, defense companies and Wall Street are gonna buy, umm I mean donate to.

Elections will all go the highest bidder now. Now that's democracy

Since Obama and the dems have shown their anti-business feelings, it is possible the sectors of the economy that they tried to attack will now speak back.

 

[Wavels]

This is about removing free speech restrictions. I always thought that McCain Fiengold was contrary to the constitution.
And there are many corporations that are sucking from the public teat and will spend oodles of money to promote big government programs, GE is a good example with their desire to promote green energy etc.
Free speech is desirable IMO.

 

[mexiblunt]

I think your right, but at the same time what If I said "Suck my Dick" or Suck my dick for $10,000,000. No offence to anyone just an example.

 

[FlyLikeAnEagle]

In another blow to our deeply dysfunctional democracy, this new Supreme Court ruling means all the special business interests and big corporatons represented by the GOP can spend as much as they want in political campaigns. No limits, no restraint, no obligation to be truthful. The smear campaign flood gates will soon be wide open and the GOP is overjoyed!

 

[matthew]

Since Obama and the dems have shown their anti-business feelings, it is possible the sectors of the economy that they tried to attack will now speak back.

Anti-business and pro-people legislation is actually just pro-people in the end, ask anyone in western Europe where they are forced to give people paid vacation time and benefits.

 

[matthew]

Need I point out that we are now the only country in the industrialized world that allows businesses to contribute UNLIMITED sums of money to political campaigns. Not to mention this is only an issue because we view a corporation as a "person" which is ludicrous to the highest degree.

Maddow had Barney Frank on to talk about it and they pointed out that the disclosure requirements are still here and that the Democratic majority will quickly move to re-write the law for corporations so that they are limited in what they can spend.

 

[Illegal Smile]

Need I point out that we are now the only country in the industrialized world that allows businesses to contribute UNLIMITED sums of money to political campaigns. Not to mention this is only an issue because we view a corporation as a "person" which is ludicrous to the highest degree.

Maddow had Barney Frank on to talk about it and they pointed out that the disclosure requirements are still here and that the Democratic majority will quickly move to re-write the law for corporations so that they are limited in what they can spend.

Is a union a person? The dems are fine with exempting union from a tax everyone else would have to pay. And unions are free to give as much as they want to campaigns. They just can't stand the idea of a level playing field. This is because they know that in the end, their ideas cannot prevail in the free marketplace.

 

[ink the world]

I am a business owner. And yes, I agree; I (as a business or a person) have the right to free speech. I understand that to some degree this is about free speech.

I also understand this will be completely abused by business' spending vast amounts of $ to further their own agendas. There needs to be a cap Theoretically, those companies w/ the largest amount of $ available to spend on contributions(buying pols.) will have the most amount of influence. That is not democracy. Yeah we all have a voice, but what good is a voice if it's being drowned out by a Motorhead-like sound system. Big business will have the ability to drown out small business and citizens.

Not good.

 

[figtree]

I wonder who our first right wing McPresident will be? this is a serious blow to democracy! and just so you know, i think they all (dems and Reps) should pay for their own campaigns! Why would this have anything to do with free speach? this has to do with corporations placing who they want in our government to drown out the voice of the people! to pay off our representatives for their interests!
Welcome to the United States of Haliburton!
Military industrial complex is all corporate, selling war for profit! the implications of this are extremely frightening.

And the right wing says the left are Marxist? wow! oh yeah thats their strategy to be what they are calling their oposition.

We all know this was a right wing justice right? who apointed this guy? BUSH/CHENEY! wonder why? Cheney has deep ties to Haliburton, he was the ceo before he was vice pres. He was the head of the board of directors who chose the candidate for vice president! ever wonder why he wants to scare everyone into thinking we are not safe? Blackwater is an offshoot of haliburton, which is making him rich with his wars for profit, corporate wars, this kind of contractor needs conflict to remain in business, the more wars around the world that they can be involved in the more power the contractors have over us.

Scary thought.... blackwater, mercenary army for hire will now control our government, and if we wont or cant pay them, then what? what country will see the oportunity to pay a mercenary army to run our government
and place who they want into our government. Highest bidder will now be running our country! I always siad welcome to Corporate America but never thought it would come to this.

 

[figtree]

Now that some light has shed on the right wing and their agendas...... sounds like the "New World Order" that all the right wingers are scared of, ironic isnt it? typical hypocrits, say 1 thing and do the exact opposite, then blame the dems!

I am extremely scared of what implications this has on our country, just kind of ironic that it was a republican justice that put this in place. what would the right say if the left did something like this!

sorry for the double post.

 

[Leothwyn]

I understand the free speech issue, but I hate to see the political process move more away from real issues, and be more about who has the greatest number of flashy, short attention span ads, and who can afford to make the other guy look bad the most with personal attacks and distractions.

I don't have any easy answers, but I think we'd be better served with campaigns based more on debates, than advertising budgets.

 

[Man o' the green]

I am a business owner. And yes, I agree; I (as a business or a person) have the right to free speech. I understand that to some degree this is about free speech.

I also understand this will be completely abused by business' spending vast amounts of $ to further their own agendas. There needs to be a cap Theoretically, those companies w/ the largest amount of $ available to spend on contributions(buying pols.) will have the most amount of influence. That is not democracy. Yeah we all have a voice, but what good is a voice if it's being drowned out by a Motorhead-like sound system. Big business will have the ability to drown out small business and citizens.

Not good.

Typically, the agenda of business is to make money, and advance the economy, which makes us all more prosperous in the end. As long as they are not abusing the system or the country, why are their goals any less valid than the unions or any other group that pools their money ?
It's about the right of opportunity, not right of outcome and Money = Power, this will never be "corrected" by any system.

 

[FlyLikeAnEagle]

Typically, the agenda of business is to make money, and advance the economy, which makes us all more prosperous in the end.

Sure buddy, look at what Reagans trickle down theory did. Put us in a recession in the 80's and half the 90's. Did Exxons record profits the last 5 years make you more prosperous? When Bush came into office the top 12% owned 85% of this countries wealth, when Bush left that number changed to the top 5% owning 95% of the wealth. You are doing nothing more than help spread the GOP's buncombe, plain and simple.

Where's the righties outrage about these conservative activist judges?

 

[matthew]

Is a union a person? The dems are fine with exempting union from a tax everyone else would have to pay. And unions are free to give as much as they want to campaigns. They just can't stand the idea of a level playing field. This is because they know that in the end, their ideas cannot prevail in the free marketplace.

Read the decisions, unions still have much more limits than corporations.

 

[matthew]

Now that some light has shed on the right wing and their agendas...... sounds like the "New World Order" that all the right wingers are scared of, ironic isnt it? typical hypocrits, say 1 thing and do the exact opposite, then blame the dems!

I am extremely scared of what implications this has on our country, just kind of ironic that it was a republican justice that put this in place. what would the right say if the left did something like this!

sorry for the double post.

I hate to break it to you but if you are going to believe in a "New World Order" you need to include the democrats as well. They take money from the same people as the R's and only have a slightly different agenda.

All the more reason to research how utterly laughable the idea of a NWO is though.

 

[Man o' the green]

Sure buddy, look at what Reagans trickle down theory did. Put us in a recession in the 80's and half the 90's. Did Exxons record profits the last 5 years make you more prosperous? When Bush came into office the top 12% owned 85% of this countries wealth, when Bush left that number changed to the top 5% owning 95% of the wealth. You are doing nothing more than help spread the GOP's buncombe, plain and simple.

Where's the righties outrage about these conservative activist judges?

- Reagan's policies resulted in prosperity
- I don't think you have your economic history right
- Exxon profits ? Not directly, but indirectly any fund holder profited.
- The distribution of wealth is not the responsibility of the government.

 

[yellowrain53]

I am a business owner. And yes, I agree; I (as a business or a person) have the right to free speech. I understand that to some degree this is about free speech.

I also understand this will be completely abused by business' spending vast amounts of $ to further their own agendas. There needs to be a cap Theoretically, those companies w/ the largest amount of $ available to spend on contributions(buying pols.) will have the most amount of influence. That is not democracy. Yeah we all have a voice, but what good is a voice if it's being drowned out by a Motorhead-like sound system. Big business will have the ability to drown out small business and citizens.

Not good.

i believe that this is the main point. abuse of media motivated by greed.

 

[Illegal Smile]

No matter what we say to try to cheer up the libs (eg you're wrong), they are just doomed to be pissed. Maybe they'll go back to that move to Canada thing.

PS - abuse of media = abuse of speech = I don't like what you're saying

 

[yellowrain53]

- Reagan's policies resulted in prosperity
- I don't think you have your economic history right
- Exxon profits ? Not directly, but indirectly any fund holder profited.
- The distribution of wealth is not the responsibility of the government.

reagans policies resulted in GREAT prosperity.........but not for you or me. around 1980 is when we began to see a huge decrease in social mobility and an ever widening gap between social classes. reagans policies made the wealthy wealthier by decreasing the general publics ability to move up the ladder. by preventing us from prospering they have also further secured their own fortunes.

"The distribution of wealth is not the responsibility of the government"

and the management of the government is NOT the responsibility of the wealthy.