OregonMeds
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Ok thanks, I get it.
I don't think anyone knows the answer or the points of diminishing returns for nutes, lights, heat and lots of other variables. They should use some stimulus money and research this stuff. Enquiring minds want to know!I'm with you illegal smile, there has to be a point of diminishing returns. I've scene that water is most saturated at 65 degrees. Even if you have the water 100% saturated, at what efficiency are the plants absorbing this and is it really necessary?
I'm with you illegal smile, there has to be a point of diminishing returns. I've scene that water is most saturated at 65 degrees. Even if you have the water 100% saturated, at what efficiency are the plants absorbing this and is it really necessary?
Many systems can provide 24/7 nutrients. There are systems that provide better nutrient delivery and only supply nutrients a second every minute or two.I've seen DWC growers get trees with over 3lb per plant (granted lots of light). When Heath Robinson did his famous vertical grow here, on this site, he didn't use any airstones, and the roots were sitting in water most of the time. He ended up getting over 2g/watt on that.
While what you say seems to be mostly true, I'm not certain DO levels in water is a bottleneck , or possibly the roots having 24/7 access to nutrients overrides this bottleneck, which other systems can't provide 24/7 nutrient access.
Please do not take that joke seriously. It was merely a carry over knee jerk response to another posters stating he has seen some growers who have obtained three pound yeilds from a single plant grow in a DWC indoors I assume. I was merely joking that this must be an example of a 20 gallon reservoir DWC three pound yield grow only done outdoors.You think 20 would do it though really? I wouldn't think so.
Oops I took the post away then I see you responded already. Oh well.
I think it was just in soil actually.
Here's the pic so people know what you're talking about:
I know it's pointless, it's just to prove the system.
Oh ok I for a second there I was thinking you thought the root mass could actually be shrunk that small under supersaturated ideal conditions as in krusty buckets.Please do not take that joke seriously. It was merely a carry over knee jerk response to another posters stating he has seen some growers who have obtained three pound yeilds from a single plant grow in a DWC indoors I assume. I was merely joking that this must be an example of a 20 gallon reservoir DWC three pound yield grow only done outdoors.
Squarepusher I'm setting up my 4 bin test MPB grow indoors dd's way, and that's the system that's prompted my work on this other thing to try to simplify/streamline dd's system. DD's system is an evolution of krusty buckets and both systems are using up to ~4kw per plant vertical with 1k hps's now and 1500w hps lights are on the market so the sky hasn't been reached yet. Fatman and I don't agree on dd's and krusty yeilds, I believe dd and all the others, too many involved to pull off a lie and krusty buckets have been around over 10 years. I've been following all of them since day one of ea, over a decade, but don't have personal experience with any of them just been in the closet with dirt mostly, doing personal stuff.How much did this plant yield?
@ Fatman, well, I can't verify if the person was telling the truth or not. The person was using a LOT of light, like 2000W per plant possible. Say, lights on at least 2 sides of the plant, maybe 3. His system is basically a very high speed RDWC, with tons of light, I'm not sure if I can link the pictures here, but ill try
http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f131/doubleds-med-patient-bucket-diy-mpb-buckets-7883/#post129742
and heres some flowering pics
http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f54/doubleds-new-20-light-medical-garden-2915/#post38993
a lot of his threads were moved due to some security issue, but his plants do look pretty huge. He recently sold the rights to his 'grow system' and its going to be offered by a large company commercially.
Also, Fatman, while you are taking the time to read this and reply, I wanted to ask your opinion on strains. Whats a good breeder/seed company, im looking for a strain with good yield and good dankness/potency, preferably 50/50 indica or more.
Can you give any recommendations or suggestions? thx =]
I like Mandala Seeds. Their prices are exceptionally good. It is hard to get staright indica or indica/afghani crosses though as they sell out quick. About the only thing avilable in a straight indica is a heavy yielding Hashberry. Look in your PM for the lo ink. They do have a lot of good indica/sativa crosses though. Most of them at full size in a rtandard grow are about 8 weeks of budding. Much quicker at clone in SOG with high temps, CO2 etc. Drop the budding time down to about 5 to 6 weeks. They send lots of free seeds with every order.How much did this plant yield?
@ Fatman, well, I can't verify if the person was telling the truth or not. The person was using a LOT of light, like 2000W per plant possible. Say, lights on at least 2 sides of the plant, maybe 3. His system is basically a very high speed RDWC, with tons of light, I'm not sure if I can link the pictures here, but ill try
http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f131/doubleds-med-patient-bucket-diy-mpb-buckets-7883/#post129742
and heres some flowering pics
http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f54/doubleds-new-20-light-medical-garden-2915/#post38993
a lot of his threads were moved due to some security issue, but his plants do look pretty huge. He recently sold the rights to his 'grow system' and its going to be offered by a large company commercially.
Also, Fatman, while you are taking the time to read this and reply, I wanted to ask your opinion on strains. Whats a good breeder/seed company, im looking for a strain with good yield and good dankness/potency, preferably 50/50 indica or more.
Can you give any recommendations or suggestions? thx =]