RickWhite
Well-Known Member
Ah, thank you - I missed it before.so even if she is correct, it still sucks? we would rather live with a denial of our situation than admit that even our most charitable actions are nothing more than the product of our basest desires? just go ahead and admit it, it's a liberating experience. admit that we are no better or worse than the slithering creatures beneath our feet and that our altruism is nothing but a crock of shit. you can try to escape it and become a greater man, but you'll only realize that even that quest is still based in the selfish desire to be more than you are. give up and realize that there's nothing wrong with being what we are. we are not gods. our self-interest is an integral part of our humanity and a necessity for the survival of the species. you can consider it a sin when taken to extremes, but you can't escape it.
It is circular reasoning - that is what always bugged me about it though I never put my finger on it. No matter what you do it will always circle back to self interest. If I sacrifice my life even for someone I never met it is because I value my actions more than my life so it is self serving.
It's just classic circular reasoning.
How about this instead - everything that happens, happens because God wants it to.