Boomer's 2400w Sour Grape GrowOp w/ ScrOG & CO2

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wonderblunder

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Sounds like things are moving in your world Boomer. Hope all is well. Knee injuries can be serious. Looking forward to this. I am moving in 2 short months, currently with a full flowering room just flipped. I am stressing. Keep it up
 

#1Raiderfan420

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sorry i havent had a chance to reply to everyones posts but i appreciate it.

spent all day yesterday running around gettin shit and putting together the veg room alone lol. def took way longer then i thought and i didnt even get half done haha. but ive got all the supplies in one place now so itll be much easier.

i brought the mothers over from my parents house and took 72 cuttings of the sour grape mothers. i cleaned up the mothers and fed them sum superthrive and minor fert. the moms were actually too tall for my closet and were touching the T5 bulbs and got a little burnt tip goin on.
but theyre doin great green healthy and strong. i installed a new 400w MH hortilux bulb with lumetek digital ballast; that will cover all 5 mothers.

then i took the 72 cuttings put them in a humid dome and rockwool cube tray and sprayed them down with an anti pest spray and threw them under a new T5 setup. so hopefully the cuttings will root within the next two weeks then moving onto an actual veg stage in hydro tables and rockwool cubes.

an issue i ran into by #1 being too faded #2 stressed out #3 being lazy; i didnt realize i had no rooting gel (Clonex) left over and it was midnight by the time i realized that with 80 cuttings already sitting in cups of water ready to b put in rockwool cubes... sooo i went ahead and did the cuttings transplant without rooting gel. idk wat will happen since ive never not used rooting gel; idk if itll take longer too root or sum wont make it at all... i just hope i get 36 strong clones to use for my veg then donate the rest bak to the collective. so wish me luck! more updates to come. and pictures hopefully haha
Hey man glad to see you got shit moving along man. I know you have been biting at the bit to get started.
Just alittle tip on the cuttings. They will stay in cups of water for a long time. I actaually still have some extra cuttings right now sitting in a small vase with plain water for 5 days and they still look great. When I was a kid my mom used to root here ladies in cups of water in the window sil with ground up aspirin changing the water ever couple days. Just a little tip for next time if you can't put them straight into cubes or cloners.
 

d.c. beard

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Hey man glad to see you got shit moving along man. I know you have been biting at the bit to get started.
Just alittle tip on the cuttings. They will stay in cups of water for a long time. I actaually still have some extra cuttings right now sitting in a small vase with plain water for 5 days and they still look great. When I was a kid my mom used to root here ladies in cups of water in the window sil with ground up aspirin changing the water ever couple days. Just a little tip for next time if you can't put them straight into cubes or cloners.
Ground-up aspirin? I've never heard of that one before...
 

#1Raiderfan420

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Ground-up aspirin? I've never heard of that one before...

Well I am glad I could learn you somthing then:) Here is an article on aspirin and plants. Sorry in advance Boomer for the quick high jack.:roll:

How Aspirin Water Helps Plants
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By Chyrene Pendleton, eHow Contributing Writer

Simple, ordinary aspirin (acetylsalicylic acid) is turning out to be a true miracle pill. It has a long list of remedies for your health, and aspirin has also shown to be beneficial for your garden as well as your house plants. This makes sense, because a chemical related to aspirin, salicylic acid, naturally occurs in plants, such as in the bark of the willow tree.
  1. Aspirin Water

    <LI id=jsArticleStep1 itxtvisited="1">Plants increase their own production of salicylic acid to heal themselves when threatened by disease, even emitting a salicylic gas to warn other plants that dangerous insects are around. Add aspirin to water and feed it to your plants to help speed up your plant's resistance to disease and form a stronger immune system. Grow larger than usual plants without pest problems.

    Use only cheap, uncoated, regular strength aspirin for your plants. Grind the aspirin well using a mortar and pestle or the back of a spoon. The standard recipe is one aspirin for every 1 gallon of water. Mix the ground aspirin well in your water. Add a few drops of liquid soap to the water also--this helps the solution stick to your plants. Indoor Plants
  2. Crush one aspirin and put it in your vase water. Add your cut flowers next. Your flowers see the cut as a wound and create a substance to hasten wilting and aging. The aspirin counteracts the substance, helping them stay fresh and last longer.

    Spray your potted house plants with aspirin water and see how their growth improves. Aspirin water helps to eliminate common house plant pest problems such as aphids.

 

#1Raiderfan420

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I don't know if I would even want to try that.

Why would you try it? Do you not have another cloning method?..I was just using it as an example of keeping your cuttings around if you can't transfer to your cloning method. Now my mom has passed away, but in here days I must say she could grow anything and she lovced aspirin in her plants, but back in the day she grew lots of ganja..before you could just go buy cloning gel. I don't use aspirin..but have put mine in a vase with water for over a week with no issues, just pop them in the cloner and off they go. I put in water 7 days ago, here ya go. I haven't decided if I am gonna root these or not, so in the mean time they sit in water that I change every other day. :)

You know you can make you own rooting harmone out of willow branches, which is what aspirin is derived from..The willow treee has natural rooting hormones in it. If you ever needed to you could soak willow branches in simmering water for a couple hours and make your own hormone...I would still just go by the shit at the store.. Sorry Boomer.. I am done with this subject I promise..:):):)
 

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BooMeR242

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good experiment to find out. I'm betting a bumper crop.
bumper crop? lol idk wat that is haha my bad

Sounds like things are moving in your world Boomer. Hope all is well. Knee injuries can be serious. Looking forward to this. I am moving in 2 short months, currently with a full flowering room just flipped. I am stressing. Keep it up
thanks brotha goodluck with ur move as well!

Here's to a speedy recovery, my friend!

again thanks for the kind words. btw wheres that violator kush clone u teased me about? haha


Hey man glad to see you got shit moving along man. I know you have been biting at the bit to get started.
Just alittle tip on the cuttings. They will stay in cups of water for a long time. I actaually still have some extra cuttings right now sitting in a small vase with plain water for 5 days and they still look great. When I was a kid my mom used to root here ladies in cups of water in the window sil with ground up aspirin changing the water ever couple days. Just a little tip for next time if you can't put them straight into cubes or cloners.
thanks for the info brotha. next time i know i can leave em in cups for at least the night with no worries. i just didnt want to fuk up haha. so i transplanted the cuttings immediately into the rockwool cubes. theyre doin good now. pix soon
 

BooMeR242

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Why would you try it? Do you not have another cloning method?..I was just using it as an example of keeping your cuttings around if you can't transfer to your cloning method. Now my mom has passed away, but in here days I must say she could grow anything and she lovced aspirin in her plants, but back in the day she grew lots of ganja..before you could just go buy cloning gel. I don't use aspirin..but have put mine in a vase with water for over a week with no issues, just pop them in the cloner and off they go. I put in water 7 days ago, here ya go. I haven't decided if I am gonna root these or not, so in the mean time they sit in water that I change every other day. :)

You know you can make you own rooting harmone out of willow branches, which is what aspirin is derived from..The willow treee has natural rooting hormones in it. If you ever needed to you could soak willow branches in simmering water for a couple hours and make your own hormone...I would still just go by the shit at the store.. Sorry Boomer.. I am done with this subject I promise..:):):)

haha no worries man i always am curious to hear new/old methods. i myself will stick to the cloning gel (if i actually remember to get sum next round haha) ill always have it. but appreciate the info.
 

BooMeR242

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Long time in the making but figured id tease u guys a little with an update showing the grow room underconstruction. this shit has been about 3 solid days of working alone and sum with my pops when he was free. but got alot done so far. the rest is all equipment shit and tedious but small shit. heavy wood lifting over ur head gets old in a hurry goin up and down staris all day with busted knees is a joke too. glad i got enouhg meds to keep me goin haha.
the first day i worked from 5am until 1230 am. haha i was cracked out and stoked i couldnt stop. i was shooting for 24hrs straight but the gf got mad at all the noise haha.

so as most u know i love to ramble so here we go;

Room A; Flower room
12/12 photocycle
as of right now the supplies and work done are;

laid plywood over the carpet for support and to allow the hydro table on wheels to roll as needed.

laid down pondliner for water protection

put up mylar (95% reflective, better then flat white as sumone metnioned) i only went half up since thats all thats needed.

hung 4 of the 6 600w hps lamps. im picking up the other 2 today.

Support; we decided to go with a beam setup since the ceilings are vaulted and its a bitch for maintence and i need to hang a couple max fans for exhaust and the lamps themselves are around 30lbs. so we used 2"x8" boards for crossbeams. used joist hangers to hang them. the support boards are lag bolted to studs in the wall. the bolts were 4" long. the beams will b used to mount the ballast, duct work, lamps, fans, and curtain rod.

i will add a curtain of mylar to the middle of the room for added reflective material since im using lots of light i dont want to waste any lumens. plus i got left over mylar so why not?


the windows were boarded up with plywood and painted flat black facing out. we left the blinds partially openned tilted up so u cant see in but doesnt look boarded up. we left both the windows in the room open for the soon to be closed intake/exhaust system we will be running which is pretty advanced. ill cut a 12" duct intake hole mounted to two 1075cfm fans to air cool my light hoods and exhaust bak out the other window (benefit of having two seperate windows)

umm i dont wanna go too into detail and lose u guys with the flower room so ill save it for a surprise...

now to move on;

Room B) Vegative stage, Mothers, clones, drying area

this is my secondary room just on foot smaller in size compared to the flowering room.

this room has pondliner to protect the flooring, mylar on the side where lights are mounted, and window boarded up the same as the flower room and will have an exhaust fan as well to air cool my lamps.

the work table works great for cloning and trimming and other needed work.

the veg room has 5 mother plants right now under a 400w MH hortilux bulb with lumetek switchable ballast and XL hood.

the other lamp is a 1000w MH hortilux bulb lumetek switchable ballast that will be used over a 4'x4' hydro flood table to veg the clones to the proper heighth before transplanting them into the room next door for flower.

the closet will be dedicated to drying the bud 8)

i mounted 2 T5 flouros under the work table and the heatpad is underneath for root developement. i took 72 clones and theyre doin well still. been a couple days so far just took the humid dome off.

but that should be it for now time to get bak to work. were gettin more equip today and working on the wiring and subpanels. using a max of 70amps total for this system and goin all out. hope u guys enjoy. stay tuned
 

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#1Raiderfan420

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looking damn good Boom :clap:

this shit's gonna be so ill when you got it fully operational :weed:
Fuckin lookin good Bro!! I am so stoked to see how this set-up comes together man. I know how much of a perfectionist you are so I am sure it will be TITS!! How many 600's are you running..was it 4? I am thinking of switching to 4 600's when I move my room this summer. I am gonna be stealing many of your set-up ideas!! It will be fun when we both have similar set-ups to run some grow comps..:hump:
 

Drella

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wow bro, i can only imagine how sore you are framing up for those lights! it looks amazing, very exciting shit.
 
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