Teabaggers Mock Parkinsons Victim

[jeff f]

a guy asked me today how the health care legislation would affect my business..
i told him it will make it almost imposable for small business to hire new employees because of the already low profit margins . any extra expense right now will hurt ALOT of small and medium sized business and keep them from hiring new employees without a doubt. now there is going to be extra withholding to pay for this scheme making it more expensive to hire employees.
not to mention extra capital gains tax all kinds of tax's. the IRS is going to hire 15K new agents to collect the moneys for health care that wouldnt start for around 4 to 5 years in the future.
good luck progressives on getting people back to work and increasing the work force so fewer people are sitting around with their hand out looking for obamas stash.
all these companys will continue to lay people off and will NOT hire them back for years to come.unless they hire them in a countrys whos business laws and tax's are reasonable unlike the USA.
these progressive idiots are working over time to destroy the american economy and the middle class in this country. looks like they are doing a fine job of it too.
maybe the million census takers obama is going to hire might offset the unemployment numbers for a short time.
1 million census workers .divide by 300 million people. that means each one of those census workers would have to count only 300 people in one years time or so..thats about how long they have planned to hire the census workers.2000 hours times 20 bucks a hour. (some census takers will make more some less than that. so i just used a median number.
that is 40000 a year to count 300 people each. 40Ktimes 1000000 is what? 40 billion dollars?
these fucking people running this country are complete fucking morons.almost as dumb as the people who voted for them.

(sarcasm engage) Hogwash! this bill will make it so easy for you to hire people. obama loves small business and would never do anything to hurt them.

besides who do you think you are running a business and expecting a "profit". you owe most of your hard work to obama and the progressives. so just fork over the money and forget about it.

and by the way, obama and the boys are gonna go after huge taxes on energy soon. that will make the economy boom. it will probably boom so much that you wont even need money anymore. everything you need to eat you will be able to trade stuff for cuz people are gonna be so happy. besides bartering is a way better way of life.

and then comes immigration where we say all you that snuck in are now totally legal and entitled to social security, free food, free healthcare, free education, its all free yippy!!......(sarcasm disengage)

the idiocy of progressives amazes me.

 

[jeff f]

Jeez. Hate to say it, but some people with views like this might be viewed as selfish, lame, assholes. Let's say some like yourself (not you, someone like you) worked their whole life, had health insurance, family was covered, etc. Let's say that the economy took a severe downturn.

Let's say that that person lost their job, their insurance, most everything. Then, let's say that person developed a type of treatable cancer. Opps, no health insurance, you get to die. Is this the way the US should treat its own citizens while giving billions to Israel?

Unfortunately, there are folks in this US of A who think in a very selfish, self centered way. Sometimes karma can be a bitch.

notice how racists work. they tie healthcare money to "the rotten jews" in israel.

you clowns are so transparent its funny.

and since you mentioned it, would you rather be known "as selfish, lame, assholes", or a fucking racist. deep huh?

 

[jeff f]

I am also a small business owner and I couldn't disagree with you more. My families business already provides health insurance to our 6 full time employees. This bill waives the mandate for businesses with less than 50 employees which is the majority of job producing businesses in this country. Those that do provide insurance will be able to pool together in order to get a lower price.





That is a very over simplified and incorrect assumption. Just because a man has a job, does not mean he is able to afford health insurance. If you think so, call any health insurer you like. Tell them you would like to purchase health insurance and when it comes time to discussing medical history, inform them you had Cancer a few years ago or were recently diagnosed with MS. After they quote you a 4 figure monthly premium with a 5 figure deductible, then tell me if "any man with a job can afford it".


For many, if they lose their job they also lose health insurance. Over 70% of bankruptcies are because of medical bills. So the fear of losing your job and home along with health insurance can and usually are one in the same.




Please point to whatever it is that Obama and the Dems have done since last year that has hurt your business! There is nothing I can think of politically related that could be hurting your business that wasn't already a ball rolling pryor to Obama coming in to office. Perhaps you should spend more time trying to improve your business model and a little less time blaming politics for its poor performance.

i agree with you drag. businesses where i live are booming. OMG the newspaper help wanted adds have literally doubled the number of pages of the local paper. the local hardware store can hardly keep help wanted signs on the shelf.

our state budget looks awesome, why with all the increased employement and increased revenues.

and every economist is predicting nothing but blue skies ahead.

and it is very important that when your company, or your country, is broke, you go out and borrow a bunch more money. that is a terrific business model for a country or a company. economics 101.....

 

[Dragline]

i agree with you drag. businesses where i live are booming. OMG the newspaper help wanted adds have literally doubled the number of pages of the local paper. the local hardware store can hardly keep help wanted signs on the shelf.

our state budget looks awesome, why with all the increased employement and increased revenues.

and every economist is predicting nothing but blue skies ahead.

and it is very important that when your company, or your country, is broke, you go out and borrow a bunch more money. that is a terrific business model for a country or a company. economics 101.....

Way to take what i said and invent some imaginary meaning to it. Where did I ever say "business was booming" anywhere? I only asked the poster to point out what it is exactly Obama and the Dems have done in the past year that has made his business go "WAY" down as he claims!

 

[max420thc]

these numbers look good to me.take a look at this graph it shows when obama took office what happened to unemployment . the other graph shows real inflation rates in the economy.
NO business can PREDICT WHAT THEIR expenditures are going to be. their business is without a doubt going to have higher tax's in a already tough business climate already.
in case you havnt noticed ALOT of business hava already picked up and moved production over seas if they can.service business have a little harder time relocating .
all of this shit started under your progressive hero bill clinton.you fools talking about what party is worse all the time..there is not much difference between republican or democrat progressives they are all the same.you sound like a retard who watch's WWF and thinks its real.
the fact of the matter is obama has taken over the mortgage industry the insurance industry banking industry the auto industry soon to be the health care industry if he can get it done. not that it will last long after the mid term elections.obama is a communist everyone knows it.

 

[max420thc]

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[londonfog]

I myself own a total of 3 laundrymats I had two , but recently was able to open another at the start of this year. I have started to also repair and flip a couple of homes in the last 5 months. Doing so enabled me to hire 7 man crew for the builds and repairs ( two being mexican who are a couple of the hardest working individuals I have ever seen). I still plan to expand on my business load by bidding on a couple of jobs I see coming down the pipe ( again enabling me to hire others ).. It's funny how people say nothing is changing when in fact it is. You guys keep sitting back doing nothing but complaining..I myself will be taking full advantage of the lack of competition. Hmmmmm think its time for me to pick another truck for the cheap...LOL

 

[max420thc]

i do alot of work for a couple of laundry mat companys . that own chains of stores. my work is good. but it is OFF. way OFF.
im not looking at hiring new people. no way shape or form.i only hire part time guys when i need them( LOTS OF SKILLED HELP OUT OF WORK RIGHT NOW)
and ive got good men lined up anytime i need a larger job done. the bad news skilled plumbers are being offered jobs they used to make 25 bucks a hour to do companys are offering them 15 bucks a hour. we are talking about a licensed plumber with 30 years experience.
everyone i knew who was in construction is laid off and losing their homes..almost all of them.
my company does mostly remodeling and equipment repaid(mechanical company)
as far as bid jobs go there is no shortage of competition at all..all of these companys bid on the same job and they are bidding them so low they are losing money.
in my area there are ALOT of mechanical contractors and heating and air companys that will be going out of business by the end of this year. that will decrease comp. in the market creating more work for the companys that can survive in this economy. the only way a company is going to survive this shit is if they have NO debt and little overhead .
i really dont want to pick up much work because i dont really need any more work. i try to control my income so i make as little money as possible so i dont have to pay tax.
i dont believe in this government and refuse to support it anymore than i must. you ever read the book called when atlas shrugged?
you progressives have a hard time reading anything i know as all of your progressive news papers are going bankrupt. but you should try it sometime.
books have alot of knowledge in them .

 

[londonfog]

I love to read....keep books right next to me in the shitter, so I can always have something to read when I take a dump...I also love to spend time in the library... something you would not like for it being to socialist and part of government..LOL dude maybe you need to get out of your area

 

[jeff f]

I myself own a total of 3 laundrymats I had two , but recently was able to open another at the start of this year. I have started to also repair and flip a couple of homes in the last 5 months. Doing so enabled me to hire 7 man crew for the builds and repairs ( two being mexican who are a couple of the hardest working individuals I have ever seen). I still plan to expand on my business load by bidding on a couple of jobs I see coming down the pipe ( again enabling me to hire others ).. It's funny how people say nothing is changing when in fact it is. You guys keep sitting back doing nothing but complaining..I myself will be taking full advantage of the lack of competition. Hmmmmm think its time for me to pick another truck for the cheap...LOL

glad to hear your doing well. most are struggling just to keep even. concrete company i use says he has barely broke even in last 1.5 years. no construction.

as for your business, you made a good choice. as people lose everything due to bankrupcty more and more people will need to use laundromat services. they no longer have room or money for washers and dryers. the fact your business is thriving is inversely proportional to the economy. so as far as capitalism goes....well played london.

another business that thrives during hard times are the rent to own centers for everything from tv's, bedroom sets to pots and pans. maybe another oppurtunity for anyone interested.

i am thinking of getting into the soup line business.

 

[Dragline]

these numbers look good to me.take a look at this graph it shows when obama took office what happened to unemployment . .

Were you living under a rock until January 20, 2009? The skyrocketing unemployment started BEFORE Obama became President. No President or political party despite what they may claim can instantly end and reverse such a purging of jobs without causing another possibly worse crisis.

Im still waiting for you to explain what it is exactly Obama and Dems have done in the past year that has directly caused your business to be "WAY" down.

 

[Illegal Smile]

Ironically, the title of this thread is correct. The people doing the mocking were liberal plants and therefore probably teabaggers, although of course not tea partiers.

 

[Dragline]

the fact of the matter is obama has taken over the mortgage industry the insurance industry banking industry the auto industry soon to be the health care industry if he can get it done. not that it will last long after the mid term elections.obama is a communist everyone knows it.

I apologize for trying to have a genuine political discussion with you. I will try not to let it happen again.

 

[Dragline]

Ironically, the title of this thread is correct. The people doing the mocking were liberal plants and therefore probably teabaggers, although of course not tea partiers.

Sometimes you make me smile.

Of course they weren't tea partiers.

 

[dukeofbaja]

obama is a communist everyone knows it.

You must also be on of those 25% of Texans who still think he's a Muslim. There is no accounting for the lack of common sense in some folks, especially when considering the overwhelming amount of information available to the contrary.

 

[fitch303]

This bill will pass and Americans will continue to consume massive amounts of sugar, sodium, fats, wont eat healthy and won't reduce the size of their portions, Costs will continue to rise then they'll tell us we need even more gov to solve the problem. If people want to disregard their own health that's their concern but don't ask me to pay for it. I'm a young guy who eats healthy, works out, and lives a healthy lifestyle so insurance isn't necessary for me but some in the gov. want to force me to buy insurance because it's the only way they'll have enough money to cover other people. I hope i'm not the only one who is fucking furious about this. don't get me wrong health-care needs reformed but the way most Americans live needs reforming also why not regulate how much shit is in our food, end sugar and corn subsidies so the price will go up and companies won't use so much of it. I'm so fucking sick of people not accepting responsibility for their own actions.

 

[dukeofbaja]

Man, fitch, most folks I know in the 303 are so much more chill than you. Do you need to medicate?

 

[PadawanBater]

This bill will pass and Americans will continue to consume massive amounts of sugar, sodium, fats, wont eat healthy and won't reduce the size of their portions, Costs will continue to rise then they'll tell us we need even more gov to solve the problem. If people want to disregard their own health that's their concern but don't ask me to pay for it. I'm a young guy who eats healthy, works out, and lives a healthy lifestyle so insurance isn't necessary for me but some in the gov. want to force me to buy insurance because it's the only way they'll have enough money to cover other people. I hope i'm not the only one who is fucking furious about this. don't get me wrong health-care needs reformed but the way most Americans live needs reforming also why not regulate how much shit is in our food, end sugar and corn subsidies so the price will go up and companies won't use so much of it. I'm so fucking sick of people not accepting responsibility for their own actions.

Tons of conditions are completely unpreventable - just because you work out and eat right doesn't make you immune from plenty deadly diseases.

 

[fitch303]

I copied my reply from the other thread but the last part didn't paste. It addressed your concern.

"Note that most health problems in this country can be fixed with a lifestyle change, Obesity, high blood pressure, heart disease represent a huge portion of costs. Some people are predisposed to genetic health problems and I'm not referring to them."

 

[fitch303]

Man, fitch, most folks I know in the 303 are so much more chill than you. Do you need to medicate?

If this bill passes i'll be forced to spend money on something I don't need, it's unconstitutional and will be struck down.