Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

[cooley150]

Hi cooley -

Sorry for the misunderstanding, I know what you mean now. I just cut the PVC pipes to the 7" and it fits perfectly inside the Roughneck tubs.

hth

lol... No problem bro..I think at one point I confused myself....lol I appreciate your help. +1 Rep!!!

So then the unit is pretty narrow?

 

[djcronos]

Yeah, it's very narrow. In fact, when I put my cloner together, you can't even see the small 1" length PVC pipes in some places.The sprayers combined with the 396gph pump get good range.

I just finished putting together my veg unit and have the unit in testing mode now outside with the pump on - the sprayers can cover the entire area of the tub, and still saturates the walls with water.

 

[cooley150]

Yeah, it's very narrow. In fact, when I put my cloner together, you can't even see the small 1" length PVC pipes in some places.The sprayers combined with the 396gph pump get good range.

I just finished putting together my veg unit and have the unit in testing mode now outside with the pump on - the sprayers can cover the entire area of the tub, and still saturates the walls with water.

Well good luck bro...I hope things work out for the both of us and again thanks again for the info.

 

[djcronos]

Just switched the clones into the veg unit. I have no doubt things will work out fine. I'm using the Lucas Formula, since I'm enjoying the ease of it in my ebb and flo setup. I'm going with 5 gallons of water in the res since it's easier for me to measure out the nutes.

Thanks for the good wishes cooley - same to you my friend!

 

[cooley150]

Just switched the clones into the veg unit. I have no doubt things will work out fine. I'm using the Lucas Formula, since I'm enjoying the ease of it in my ebb and flo setup. I'm going with 5 gallons of water in the res since it's easier for me to measure out the nutes.

Thanks for the good wishes cooley - same to you my friend!

MAN am I glad you said you are using the Lucas formula. That was going to be my next question. I am using Stinks cloner and veg unit, but at the moment I have an ebb & Gro system for flowering. I use the Lucas formula for that, but was wondering about using it for my veg also. Are you having good luck with it in Stinks systems? How long do you run your pumps in your veg unit?

 

[djcronos]

I just started my first veg cycle a few hours ago - I'll let you know in a few days to a week how it's going. I doubt I will have any problems, since I was thinking of purchasing an AquaMist aeroponic setup before going with my ebb and grow, and the Lucas Formula was recommended for the AquaMist, so I don't think I will have any issue here in stink's system.

I'll definitely keep you posted

 

[cooley150]

I just started my first veg cycle a few hours ago - I'll let you know in a few days to a week how it's going. I doubt I will have any problems, since I was thinking of purchasing an AquaMist aeroponic setup before going with my ebb and grow, and the Lucas Formula was recommended for the AquaMist, so I don't think I will have any issue here in stink's system.

I'll definitely keep you posted

Thank you sir.... Can't wait to hear about your progress.

 

[cooley150]

I sure wish I could get buds like that but with all these test you have to take at work I'm only smoking the legal shit now.

I just wanted to say after trying many types of legal crap I found something that REALLY works.

Even though it only last about an hour it does give you a great buzz, it's legal and you don't fail any drug test.

Plus they gave me a free sample at freedombuds dot com.

Can't beat that.

I wouldn't smoke that crap if you paid me...lol

I grow my own Medical Marijuana. I am a patient and also a caregiver,so I can legally grow 12 plants for myself and 12 plants per patient, up to 5 patients Right now I have AK-47, Purple Kush, Sage, Blue cheese, and Just got a Fruity Pebbles clone.

 

[laceygirl]

This is the second aeroncloner by Stink buds design that I have built.. My first one, I couldn't find a Rubbermaid Roughneck in Australia.. Anywhere.. I even rang Rubbermaid Australia and they were no friggin help, so I bought the closet Aussie equivalent, and its not watertight... So I bit the bullet and went to ebay and got one delivered from the united states...

With my first aerocloner, I used PVC pipe and glue, not going to do it that way this time... I used 13mm black water hose and corresponding elbows, t-junctions and end caps... This way I didn't have to use any glue... The waterhose can be made into heaps of different shapes, yet is still strong and sturdy enough to hold a desired form...My prototype is built with super old hose, so I will be replacing it...

I am only using the 14 gallon roughneck

so I will have to modify my measurements accordingly...

 

[cooley150]

This is the second aeroncloner by Stink buds design that I have built.. My first one, I couldn't find a Rubbermaid Roughneck in Australia.. Anywhere.. I even rang Rubbermaid Australia and they were no friggin help, so I bought the closet Aussie equivalent, and its not watertight... So I bit the bullet and went to ebay and got one delivered from the united states...

With my first aerocloner, I used PVC pipe and glue, not going to do it that way this time... I used 13mm black water hose and corresponding elbows, t-junctions and end caps... This way I didn't have to use any glue... The waterhose can be made into heaps of different shapes, yet is still strong and sturdy enough to hold a desired form...My prototype is built with super old hose, so I will be replacing it...

I am only using the 14 gallon roughneck

so I will have to modify my measurements accordingly...

Sounds interesting. Whats the deal with the glue?

Any pics of the set up?

 

[cooley150]

Just switched the clones into the veg unit. I have no doubt things will work out fine. I'm using the Lucas Formula, since I'm enjoying the ease of it in my ebb and flo setup. I'm going with 5 gallons of water in the res since it's easier for me to measure out the nutes.

Thanks for the good wishes cooley - same to you my friend!

Hey DJ.... I have a couple more questions for you.

1) Did you use 2 18 gallon Rubbermaid for your veg unit? That is what Stink suggested, but being that they are the same size, when you stack them you have no room to cut an access panel to check your water level in the rez or to add water or nutes.

2)How much water did you put in your rez and what was your ratio for your nutes(Lucas Formula)

 

[LionsRoor]

OK we all got the fence posts and every three weeks it's chop time. The question is what can be done to increase the harvests and get that extra ounce that wasn't there three weeks ago. I read High Times, Skunk magazine and of course I am a avid reader of this forum. Feel free to chime in and tell me if you think any of this stuff could get extra yield with the fence post system.
1) a little bit of foliar feeding with a water soluable fertilizer (such as miracle grow) right before lights on.
2) going 12.5 hours on for the flowering cycle (maybe even 13 hours on,strain dependant).
3) adding side lighting, CFL, LED, and metal halide during flowering
4) Using 4 six hundred watt lights instead of two 1000 watters during flowering, or using two 250 watt HPS's on the first flowering post in the cycle.
5)Changing the res every three weeks in the flowering cycle to ensure fresh nutes.
6)using a aquarium pump to aerate the water in the res.
7) Verticle lighting.

Anything out there that you do differently that increases your yields?

The question everbody wants to answer... How do I yield more? Here's my opinions on your 7 thoughts to that end.

1. - foliar feeding can help if your plants are not getting something through the roots... but a well balanced nute tank in the Stink system will likely give the plants all they want and need. If you still want to foliar feed - try using the Groigen and Florigen from AO BLoom (yellow bottle). These are choice - made for foliar feeding. I have had incredible results using this stuff with coco.

2. Increasing the day light by 30 minutes or an hour will have little effect... saving the 30 kwh's per month is probably more efficient... but if you are having trouble getting into your room to do work when lights on, the extra hour can often help. Have you looked at running 18 hour days (rather than 24 hour days), people have reported finishing 2 weeks earlier using this method... I have yet to try this one... would be kind of weird to have your off/on times constantly changing.

3. Increasing the light spectrum always helps. If you have any way to mix MH and HPS light during flowering, you will increase yields and quality. The increased UV in MH vs HPS lighting, greatly increases THC levels (plants create THC to defend against UV)

4. 600's are the most efficient in terms of operating efficiency.... so running more watts with 600 watt lights (2400w vs 2000w) will always be better. The question is, "are 600 watt lights worth the cost?". When you consider the costs to replace bulbs (600's are just about the same price as 1000's), and the cost of ballasts and reflectors, 1000's become more efficient than 600's. Also - there is still not a native 600w MH bulb, while you can get a true 1000w MH. With a modern, digital ballast, this may be something to consider if you are going to run both lamp types during a cycle.

5. Changing every 3 weeks is the outside of res changes... you can get better results changing every 7 - 10 days. Of course, this will cost about twice as much to nute over the course of the grow.

6. Using an air pump in the res with the Stink system is not necessary as the water fall effect does quite a bit to oxygenate the water. With the roots actually hanging in air, oxygen is rarely an issue with aeroponics. An air pump won't hurt anything though...

7. Vertical lighting is great - super efficient and easy.... but you must set your zone up to accomodate it. The standard stink system would benefit little from vertical lighting. With a redesign, you could place the fenceposts in an opposing 'v' formation (using 5 posts) and hang lights in the center. Growing trees (1 plant per 4sq ft), lends itself to vertical lighting. This is the current trend in big commercial setups in BC. I have yet to try this method - but many claim this as a super efficient way to go.

Let us know your results of anything you try!

 

[LionsRoor]

G'day all

I built the aerocloner as per stinkbuds instructions and its great, but where I live the temperatures are superhot in summer and very cold in winter... Down to -15 degrees celcius... That's minus people..!!!!

So I went to my fave shop in the world and bought the cutest little cloning tent by Ezi-Tent... Its so practical its amazing, took me ten minutes to put it together and I bought a kick arse flouro to go in it.... Its a day propagator, 220watts, not bad for a flouro!!!! I recommend this little tent as it creates a little environment that I can control and it just so damn cute...

Laceygirl...

Nice - looks like they built it for the Stink Unit!

 

[LionsRoor]

The best timer - Sentinel DRT-1 - no comparison to ANY other timer currently available.... about $95 these days.

 

[laceygirl]

Nice - looks like they built it for the Stink Unit!

It does doesn't it..? lol....

Laceygirl...

 

[Cliddy]

How much do you guy spend on fertilizers each month when running a full SB system?

 

[djcronos]

Hey DJ.... I have a couple more questions for you.

1) Did you use 2 18 gallon Rubbermaid for your veg unit? That is what Stink suggested, but being that they are the same size, when you stack them you have no room to cut an access panel to check your water level in the rez or to add water or nutes.

2)How much water did you put in your rez and what was your ratio for your nutes(Lucas Formula)

cooley - yeah I used two 18 gallon roughnecks and stacked them. I haven't checked the res yet, but I can easily check it by lifting up the bottom lid.

Just for the ease of measuring everything out, since the Lucas Formula is 8ml Micro and 16ml Bloom per gallon, I used 5 gallons of RO water. That's 40ml Micro and 80ml Bloom, and I didn't need to balance the pH, as it was at 5.4, and will raise itself to 5.6 in a few days.

Roots are now touching the bottom of the top container. There's yellowing of the leaves but SB says that's normal. I'll take pictures tonight, since I'll be starting a new set of clones of my Cali o Purple momma. This time I will be using Rapid Rooters to test how fast they root.

 

[dragonbud]

The question everbody wants to answer... How do I yield more? Here's my opinions on your 7 thoughts to that end.

7. Vertical lighting is great - super efficient and easy.... but you must set your zone up to accomodate it. The standard stink system would benefit little from vertical lighting. With a redesign, you could place the fenceposts in an opposing 'v' formation (using 5 posts) and hang lights in the center. Growing trees (1 plant per 4sq ft), lends itself to vertical lighting. This is the current trend in big commercial setups in BC. I have yet to try this method - but many claim this as a super efficient way to go.

Let us know your results of anything you try!

Thanks for the input Lionsroor you sure have a bunch of canna knowledge. It's funny you mentioned the verticle lighting and making a v shape of the design. Behold my V6 version using a round res. note..I still have to come up with a round lid for the res. Still using a 396 pump and built in some redundancy into the sprayers, I put in extra. I hang the 400 watt MH in the middle of the V shape and then I make a corner unit out of it maximizing my space.

I operate an extra veg unit and I put the veg unit on wheels (harbor freight appliance dolly) I can roll the unit in the flowering area one week or two weeks early with the 6 picked out for the corner unit and the result is I get extra weeks of flowering for more sativa leaning strains. Hope that made sense. Just going 10 weeks-11 weeks. The corner unit rocks-extra harvest.

 

[cooley150]

cooley - yeah I used two 18 gallon roughnecks and stacked them. I haven't checked the res yet, but I can easily check it by lifting up the bottom lid.

Just for the ease of measuring everything out, since the Lucas Formula is 8ml Micro and 16ml Bloom per gallon, I used 5 gallons of RO water. That's 40ml Micro and 80ml Bloom, and I didn't need to balance the pH, as it was at 5.4, and will raise itself to 5.6 in a few days.

Roots are now touching the bottom of the top container. There's yellowing of the leaves but SB says that's normal. I'll take pictures tonight, since I'll be starting a new set of clones of my Cali o Purple momma. This time I will be using Rapid Rooters to test how fast they root.

Thanks for the info DJ. I have my cloner up a running. I took a few clippings off a Purple Kush and an AK-47 and NO SHIT!!!! I had baby root sprouts 24 hours later. I was AMAZED!!! I have my veg unit built and ready to fire it up as soon as these clones get a little larger roots. Thanks for the info on the nutes. I run 5 gallons in my cloner and was wondering if I could do the same in my veg unit... You answered that question...lol Thanks.

How long have you had them in the veg unit when you replied to my post? Also did you run the Lucas Formula at full strength when you first put them in the veg unit and did you bump up the nutes each week?

 

[LionsRoor]

Thanks for the input Lionsroor you sure have a bunch of canna knowledge. It's funny you mentioned the verticle lighting and making a v shape of the design. Behold my V6 version using a round res. note..I still have to come up with a round lid for the res. Still using a 396 pump and built in some redundancy into the sprayers, I put in extra. I hang the 400 watt MH in the middle of the V shape and then I make a corner unit out of it maximizing my space.

I operate an extra veg unit and I put the veg unit on wheels (harbor freight appliance dolly) I can roll the unit in the flowering area one week or two weeks early with the 6 picked out for the corner unit and the result is I get extra weeks of flowering for more sativa leaning strains. Hope that made sense. Just going 10 weeks-11 weeks. The corner unit rocks-extra harvest.

I love it. Looks great. Thanks for posting those pics. The plants look nice too!