Dead fish for fertilizer?

[dmoneysaver]

Well lets forget harvest poo this year why not use the fish itself

Has anyone tried this it seems to be a good idea for some great fertilizer.



P.S. When my hamster died (rest his not there soul) I put him in the ground and grew a marijuana plant on top of him and it grew like crazy! Seriously and it was one of the potent smoke I ever had for bagseed. Plus to root system grew crazy and reminded me of AN'S voodoo juice. I could try mice as well but buying some guppies is more humane.

But whatever what is your opinion?

 

[stickyikkigreen]

yea man lets go native american with our pot plants

 

[Carl Spackler]

It can take several months for the carcass to decompose in some soils to the point it that the nutrients are available to the plant. By then, the plant may have been in a situation that required a fairly steady supply of Macro-nutrients (like right now during veg cycle) resulting in unwarranted stress. That, coupled with the very likely event of a animal being highly attracted to a rotting fish and excavating your prize plant makes this a sketchy idea in my opinion. It is also virtually impossible to even guess the analysis or the proportion of nutrients in a fish carcass. Why not use a inexpensive, commercial fertilizer with a known analysis?

 

[dmoneysaver]

yea man lets go native american with our pot plants

lol thats funny but it really does seem to work. I''ll post an experiment with some pot plants with nature's fertilizer vs commercial vs without any.

If this works it might be the next scientific break through in marijuana.

Lets make nutrient companies go out of business lmao.

 

[dmoneysaver]

It can take several months for the carcass to decompose in some soils to the point it that the nutrients are available to the plant. By then, the plant may have been in a situation that required a fairly steady supply of Macro-nutrients (like right now during veg cycle) resulting in unwarranted stress. That, coupled with the very likely event of a animal being highly attracted to a rotting fish and excavating your prize plant makes this a sketchy idea in my opinion. It is also virtually impossible to even guess the analysis or the proportion of nutrients in a fish carcass. Why not use a inexpensive, commercial fertilizer with a known analysis?

I know the risk with animals being attracted but I'm not growing with any animals nearby. Plus the beneficial bacteria percentage is sky high bro! Plus i could always not feed them for a bit and give them lots of organics to provide a nice little wave of nutrients before they promptly decompose.

And come on man let nature takes it's coarse ?I just love organic grows. Just let it be man

peace.

 

[dmoneysaver]

wow 23 views with no replies bump bump

 

[defcomexperiment]

i dig the idea, especially cause i remember pictures in school of native american's showing pilgrims how to plant corn with fish... i think the thing that would turn me off the most is the smell of rotting fish, because it has the tendency to make me want to gag... here is some organic commercial products i found that are made from fish, and things of that sort:

http://www.neptunesharvest.com/

pretty interesting stuff... i think using a commercially produced product would probably be the best, mainly due to knowing exactly what nute values you are working with..

 

[dababydroman]

i think it would work. as long as u dont over do it. if u smush the fish it will speed up the process of decomposure obviously

 

[swelchjohn]

Native Americans used fish as fertilizer in harsh conditions, like growing in sand for example. It was as simple as burrying the parts of the fish they could not use for food or tools in the same earth that they were going to grow crops in.

 

[dmoneysaver]

i dig the idea, especially cause i remember pictures in school of native american's showing pilgrims how to plant corn with fish... i think the thing that would turn me off the most is the smell of rotting fish, because it has the tendency to make me want to gag... here is some organic commercial products i found that are made from fish, and things of that sort:

http://www.neptunesharvest.com/

pretty interesting stuff... i think using a commercially produced product would probably be the best, mainly due to knowing exactly what nute values you are working with..

Cool that you dig it but if you want to be real organic you have to use the real fish itself the preserve all nutrients and bacteria.

 

[d.s.m.]

Put the fish in next year's holes.

 

[AKronic]

they have jugs of Fish Emulsion. wich is basically what you want in a ready to use form. it stinks like shit and may attract bugs mix it in your soil or top feed.

 

[dmoneysaver]

Put the fish in next year's holes.

If it's small fish that have been cut up and in soil it WILL DECOMPOSE QUICKLY.

 

[stickyikkigreen]

yea or pop it in a blender, then poor it into ur hole lol

 

[d.s.m.]

Google putrefaction. It's not something you want going on right under your plant.

It's like throwing leftover fried chicken into your compost heap; yeah, it will eventually break down, but it's gonna be nasty as hell for quite a while.

 

[veggiegardener]

Put the fish in next year's holes.

Whole carcasses can take an entire season to break down and won't ever provide a good balance of nutes. Yeah, it's kinda interesting, but really has a lot of downside, given a choice.

I use fish emulsion in all my foliar feedings. The plants seem to love it. Some folks say fish emulsion causes a menthol flavor.

If you just GOTTA use a fish, cut it up into itty bitty pieces.

 

[Carl Spackler]

I am pretty sure that if the natives had been given the option of either burying a dead fish beneath their crops or going down to their local hardware/box store and buying a bag of fert. with a guaranteed analysis based on a soil test (the method I prefer) they would have done the latter. I check the plant problems section of this forum pretty frequently and the vast majority of issues arise from over and under fertilization. It may be admirable and all that some would want to be totally "green" in their grow but it is imprecise at best. A commonly held myth is that commercially produced fertilizers are not "natural." It is only the ratios or analysis that is unnatural. Nitrogen, is extracted from the air that we all breathe (78% by volume). Both Phosphorous and Potassium are mined. When all 3 are combined they make a complete fertilizer of Macro-nutrients that are essential for healthy plant growth. Granted, micro-nutrients (Zinc, Manganese, Boron etc.) are not always included in comm. ferts. and may be present in a given fish but, the possibility exists that they may also have absorbed some really nasty things such as lead and PCB's in their lifetime.

 

[matthebrute]

my old man told me to throw a fish in the soil and he said it worked great, so i did and i dont seem to be having any issues with animals or smell, not sure how much of the fish is actually going to the plant and im good with digging it up. it has been in there for about 2 weeks now, i put him in there alive and fresh so no flies had a chance to lay eggs in it before i buried it (this would create maggots comin up though your soil and thats just disgusting).

anyways i have heard mixed review about this so i would be interested to see the results of the experiment you mentioned above) i realize this post is over a year old tho so im assuming you didnt do it.

 

[cannawizard]

Well lets forget harvest poo this year why not use the fish itself

Has anyone tried this it seems to be a good idea for some great fertilizer.



P.S. When my hamster died (rest his not there soul) I put him in the ground and grew a marijuana plant on top of him and it grew like crazy! Seriously and it was one of the potent smoke I ever had for bagseed. Plus to root system grew crazy and reminded me of AN'S voodoo juice. I could try mice as well but buying some guppies is more humane.

But whatever what is your opinion?

* just use organic fish sauce, stinkier the better. or fish emulsion... not an expert but for some odd reason fungi love that stuff, ehh.

--cheers

 

[5150]

Does not work. I tried it years ago. Infact the plant that had the fish under it got root rot. It made the hole have slow drain as well. I could not tell what nutes it was getting. whats a fish 20-20-20? Or 0-100- 50? Control your grow.

I put 2 trout in the bottom ove a 2 bag hole. It grew like it's sisters for awhile. Then slow way down and got root rot. The hole always took long time to dry out. It seemed like it ws always wet. And water way less than it's sisters.