"New World Order" conspiracy theory

Zeplike

Active Member
I figured this could go in politics, music, or toke-n-talk... but also figured it would be mor interesting stoned :D

In Immortal Technique's song "bush nocked down the towers" he has many debatable and interesting lyrics but the main line I want to analyze is this:

"This ain't no alien conspiracy theory, this shit is real
Written on the dollar underneath the Masonic seal"

'novus ordo seclorum'

he's talking about this theory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

I usually don't trust wiki alone so thats just to give an understanding I guess.
one more
http://www.greatseal.com/mottoes/seclorum.html

anyone support this theory? is it ridiculous? plausible?
debate. try not to go off topic too much but other similar/relevant theories are welcome :peace:
 

Rusty Crutch

Well-Known Member
Check out Zeitgeist and loose change. Like lambs to the slaughter.
They can't take our freedom away by force. Instead they made us scared with lies and propaganda so we gave it up willingly to feel safe again.
As far as I can tell, they've already won. We're kinda fucked now.....
 

Zeplike

Active Member
I need to learn to read faster.. it seems like there is just so much bullshit to wade through
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
I figured this could go in politics, music, or toke-n-talk... but also figured it would be mor interesting stoned :D

In Immortal Technique's song "bush nocked down the towers" he has many debatable and interesting lyrics but the main line I want to analyze is this:

"This ain't no alien conspiracy theory, this shit is real
Written on the dollar underneath the Masonic seal"

'novus ordo seclorum'

he's talking about this theory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Order_(conspiracy_theory)

I usually don't trust wiki alone so thats just to give an understanding I guess.
one more
http://www.greatseal.com/mottoes/seclorum.html

anyone support this theory? is it ridiculous? plausible?
debate. try not to go off topic too much but other similar/relevant theories are welcome :peace:
This again????????? :roll:

 

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Zeplike

Active Member
can't tell if you just really disagree or are tired of hearing about it. I guess I missed the other threads on this sorry?
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
can't tell if you just really disagree or are tired of hearing about it. I guess I missed the other threads on this sorry?
There are always threads about this type of stuff. These new world order conspiracies are older than most of us on this site. I don't buy into "secret groups" controlling everything and hatching devious plots to take over the world.:fire: The reason I don't buy into these theories is because the people in power are doing a lot of this stuff openly. They don't need to hide behind secret groups and crazy conspiracies. They are doing it for all to see and we aren't doing anything about it. Anybody who lives in the U.S. and thinks you are free needs to think again. We definitely have it better than most, but America hasn't been the beacon of freedom like most of us were taught in school for a long time.:cry:

I believe that some conspiracy theories may be true but IMO this one is played out and there is almost no evidence to support it. :peace:
 

ukgrower2110

Well-Known Member
they do it openly m8, its incredibaly simpl, you yanks have 2 parties, democrats and republicans, they are both funded by the illuminati, listen 2 black the ripper hes been talkin tru talk since day.
 

Sr. Verde

Well-Known Member
Immortal Technique is the man... I dont buy all the conspiracy theories though.

Sounds like some people trying to find someone to blame for this fucked up world.


I do buy the whole government making the people afraid so they can impose restrictions and new rules during times of "crysis". That sounds like our government
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
Immortal Technique is the man... I dont buy all the conspiracy theories though.

Sounds like some people trying to find someone to blame for this fucked up world.


I do buy the whole government making the people afraid so they can impose restrictions and new rules during times of "crysis". That sounds like our government
I first heard about the illuminati/new world order conspiracy back in the early 90's and I'm fairly sure it was around long before that. I don't remember who said it but I seem to remember hearing some quote by a politician that went something like "Never let a good crisis go to waste". Not really sure what they meant but it seems that with each crisis we become a little less free. Sad really.:cry:
 

osostoned

New Member
for those of you that dont buy into the conspiracy theories I ask you this?

Why did tower 7 fall that day???

You do remember tower 7 fell "due to falling debris from the other towers striking the face and causing massive internal fires" so says the official report?

Why not ask the man that owned THE BUILDING what happened that day?

[video=youtube;Y7lSC3jXFDE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lSC3jXFDE[/video]

and if you don't want to believe the man that held the insurance policy on those puppies, look at some data, explosives were used more than once that day. Look at the time of impact compared to the start times of the graphs and the recording of the highest detected seismic waves.

Impact_1.jpg


Impact_2.jpg

Collapse_1.jpg

Collapse_2.jpg

Bldg7.jpg

Oh yeah, did I mention that a plane hitting either tower would NOT register a seismic activity so says the owner of this machine^^

Ain't hard to figure out america. you got suckered into a war that is covering up the fact we are stealing a multi billion dollar contract to build a natural gas pipeline through Afghanistan.

9-11 was a lot of things all rolled into one easy to swallow pill.

The guy that invented the technology that later became the Chicago Climate Exchange (google that shit, then google it with the word obama in there see what happens) was supposed to be granted a patent that day IN TOWER 2, he was killed when trapped ABOVE the plane crash. He had waited years and been denied many times for this patent. His wife later sold it to the chairman (and later busted for all kinds of dirty shit Bush buddy) of FANNIE MAY! WTF does a mortgage company want with climate control technology?? Ask yourself that??

What about the over 400 billion in gold that is MISSING from the depositories UNDER tower 2 and later some (400 million) was found under tower 5?? Loaded into the back of commercial dump trucks, unguarded??

look at the videos yourself from live footage of that day and count, then go do a little check into "acceleration due to gravity" and do some math, the twin towers fell not only at FREE FALL speeds but actually showed "acceleration due to gravity" for several seconds. That means nothing was below it to get in the way of it dropping for you non engineers reading this.

Dont believe me, do the math for yourself come back and show me I'm wrong, PLEASE!!!
 

osostoned

New Member
Here this guy will get ya caught up in 5:55 lol thanks for spitting truth and knowledge, meet the next beatles only he wont sign with a label so they can't censor him.

IMMORTAL TECHNIQUE: cause of death




[video=youtube;3u3JSEqNtlg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3u3JSEqNtlg[/video]


inside IMMORTAL

[video=youtube;QJuxb7HddOM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJuxb7HddOM&feature=related[/video]
 

Zig Zag Zane

Well-Known Member
immortal tec and anyone like him is real, rapping about the true issues we're faced with today...not your typical materialism,money worshipping music.
 

osostoned

New Member
didnt mean to hi jack your thread, sorry, I lost family that day in tower 2, floor 53. i've been bumpin this guy and this song in rush hour everyday since it dropped, and I'm running 2000 watts to the mids and hi's

I dont care about "subliminal bigotry" blocking there minds, their ears hear him I make sure of it!!!
 

doc111

Well-Known Member
for those of you that dont buy into the conspiracy theories I ask you this?

Why did tower 7 fall that day???

You do remember tower 7 fell "due to falling debris from the other towers striking the face and causing massive internal fires" so says the official report?

Why not ask the man that owned THE BUILDING what happened that day?

[video=youtube;Y7lSC3jXFDE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7lSC3jXFDE[/video]

and if you don't want to believe the man that held the insurance policy on those puppies, look at some data, explosives were used more than once that day. Look at the time of impact compared to the start times of the graphs and the recording of the highest detected seismic waves.

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Oh yeah, did I mention that a plane hitting either tower would NOT register a seismic activity so says the owner of this machine^^

Ain't hard to figure out america. you got suckered into a war that is covering up the fact we are stealing a multi billion dollar contract to build a natural gas pipeline through Afghanistan.

9-11 was a lot of things all rolled into one easy to swallow pill.

The guy that invented the technology that later became the Chicago Climate Exchange (google that shit, then google it with the word obama in there see what happens) was supposed to be granted a patent that day IN TOWER 2, he was killed when trapped ABOVE the plane crash. He had waited years and been denied many times for this patent. His wife later sold it to the chairman (and later busted for all kinds of dirty shit Bush buddy) of FANNIE MAY! WTF does a mortgage company want with climate control technology?? Ask yourself that??

What about the over 400 billion in gold that is MISSING from the depositories UNDER tower 2 and later some (400 million) was found under tower 5?? Loaded into the back of commercial dump trucks, unguarded??

look at the videos yourself from live footage of that day and count, then go do a little check into "acceleration due to gravity" and do some math, the twin towers fell not only at FREE FALL speeds but actually showed "acceleration due to gravity" for several seconds. That means nothing was below it to get in the way of it dropping for you non engineers reading this.

Dont believe me, do the math for yourself come back and show me I'm wrong, PLEASE!!!
I'm a retired firefighter. I was at the WTC less than 24 hours after and I saw no evidence of the use of explosives. If they'd been used there would be some evidence. See, they didn't need to use explosives because 2 huge freakin' planes flew into 2 huge freakin' skyscrapers! I'm a bit of an expert on building collapses and there was tons of debris that rained down on manhattan. Literally tons! Some of that debris obviously hit building seven and caught it on fire. It burned for hours before it collapsed. Why blow it up? Tell me this. Why would our government do something like this and then cover it up? Why? What do they have to gain? I don't think they needed to do it because it was only a matter of time before islamic extremist terrorists hit us big time here at home. They knew this. People talk. If there had been a cover up of some devious plot to blow up any of these buildings people would be talking. People cannot keep their mouths shut and it would've taken a lot of people to pull off a conspiracy of this magnitude. I'm doubtfulthat this is going to change your mind but I take issue with the fact that anybody would intentionally blow up buildings with firemen scrambling around below.:blsmoke:
 

Zig Zag Zane

Well-Known Member
never in history have steel buildings collapsed from fire alone. That day, 2 planes turned 3 massive buildings into piles of ash. Then we go to war and blame it on Tim Osman aka bin laden, and Al qaeda... which is not a real terrorist group, al qaeda translates into "the system" which was the network kept by the CIA of mujahideen fighters that they(the CIA,us) supplied with weapons in the 80's to fight the russians, on 9/11 we turned that network the cia kept into the boogeymen who attacked us, 9 years later we're more fucked than ever and still in those wars.
 

osostoned

New Member
I'm a retired firefighter. I was at the WTC less than 24 hours after and I saw no evidence of the use of explosives. If they'd been used there would be some evidence. See, they didn't need to use explosives because 2 huge freakin' planes flew into 2 huge freakin' skyscrapers! I'm a bit of an expert on building collapses and there was tons of debris that rained down on manhattan. Literally tons! Some of that debris obviously hit building seven and caught it on fire. It burned for hours before it collapsed. Why blow it up? Tell me this. Why would our government do something like this and then cover it up? Why? What do they have to gain? I don't think they needed to do it because it was only a matter of time before islamic extremist terrorists hit us big time here at home. They knew this. People talk. If there had been a cover up of some devious plot to blow up any of these buildings people would be talking. People cannot keep their mouths shut and it would've taken a lot of people to pull off a conspiracy of this magnitude. I'm doubtfulthat this is going to change your mind but I take issue with the fact that anybody would intentionally blow up buildings with firemen scrambling around below.:blsmoke:
I'm sorry you think your lives are worth more than $600 billion in gold and a $13 billion dollar a year industry (CCX)

AS a fire fighter did you hear the audio tape of the first ladder crew to reach the fire?? they said they could put it out, "containable" was the word he used, he was a firefighter for 22 years. You can listen to the audio for yourself ya know.

let give you a piece of it from the transcripts of the New York Port Authority

Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 OV. Fifteen to 15 OV. "Fifteen OV."
Ladder 15: "Tommy, have you made it back down to the lobbby yet?"
Ladder 15 OV: "The elevator's screwed up."
Ladder 15: "You can't move it?"
Ladder 15 OV: "I don't want to get stuck in the shaft."

9:50 a.m.

Ladder 15: "Alright Tommy. It's imperative that you go down to the lobby command post and get some people up to 40. We got injured people up here on 70. If you make it to the lobby command post see if they can somehow get elevators past the 40th floor. We got people injured all the way up here."
Battalion Seven Aide: "Battaltion Seven Alpha to Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Go Steve."
Battalion Seven Aide: "Yeah Chief, I'm on 55, I got to rest. I'll try to get up there as soon as possible."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four."

9:50 a.m.

"Anybody see the highway one car? Highway one car we need it for an escort to the hospital for a fireman."
Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Ladder 15." "15 Irons."
Ladder 15: "Fifteen to 15 Roof and Irons."
Battalion Six Chief: "Battalion Six to command post."

9:52 a.m.

Battalion Seven Chief: "Battalion Seven to Battalion Seven Alpha." "Freddie, come on over. Freddie, come on over by us."
Battalion Seven Chief:

"Battalion Seven ... Ladder 15, we've got two isolated pockets of fire. We should be able to knock it down with two lines. Radio that, 78th floor numerous 10-45 Code Ones."

Ladder 15: "What stair are you in, Orio?"
Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha to lobby command post."
Ladder Fifteen: "Fifteen to Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "... Ladder 15."
Ladder 15: "Chief, what stair you in?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "South stairway Adam, South Tower."
Ladder 15: "Floor 78?"
Battalion Seven Chief: "Ten-four, numerous civilians, we gonna need two engines up here."
Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're on our way."

9:52 a.m.

Battalion Seven Aide: "Seven Alpha for Battalion Seven."
Battalion Seven Chief: "South tower, Steve, south tower, tell them...Tower one. Battalion
Seven to Ladder 15. "Fifteen."
Battalion Seven Chief: "I'm going to need two of your firefighters Adam stairway to knock down two fires. We have a house line stretched we could use some water on it, knock it down, kay."
Ladder 15: "Alright ten-four, we're coming up the stairs. We're on 77 now in the B stair, I'll be right to you."
Ladder 15 Roof: "Fifteen Roof to 15. We're on 71. We're coming right up."


Now, what do you make of that? Almost 350,000 people marched in New york last year in regards to the 9-11 conspiracy, people are talking, you should be one of them sir.
 

osostoned

New Member
and I trust this guy when it comes to a building falling,

[video=youtube;5ArcMOkuoK0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ArcMOkuoK0[/video]
 
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