"New World Order" conspiracy theory

[Zig Zag Zane]

Osostoned is right, the supposed hijackers, would have never been able to pull off what supposedly happened, especially at the pentagon, that was definitely a missile. I mean shit guys they try to do this stuff allllll the time really, remember the underwear bomber on christmas? that died fast huh? the media was alllll over it at first hyping that shit up, then too much info came out about how the nigerian man got on to the plane and you wont hear a word about it anymore, he had some handlers, some spiffy sharp dressed above-the-law suit wearing dudes got him through security, and on to the plane with no passport. The powers that be always need some big scare, or disaster to keep the average citizens minds occupied and distracted.

 

[blazin256]

elected officials and others in their own words on NWO
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for the towers to fall you wouldnt need explosives. thermite, which burns so hot it can melt steel would be more then enough to cause them to fall. heres one of many videos.
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through out history there have been people and individuals hell bent on controlling the world. why would it be any different today? the general public doesn't want freedom. they want the most amount of money for the least amount of work. this was the plan all along sadly.

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

Yeah I believe it was a form of thermite but definitely a top secret form unknown to the public...
the military and TPTB in general have technology beyond our wildest dreams at the moment, yet they wont use it to better our world.

 

[Zeplike]

My mind is blown. thanks and +rep to osostoned and everyone else I can who posted good video and information.

 

[DobermanGuy]

You are all full of shit as far as im concerned. Until someone can explain to me; why in the videos, the collapse/ crumble of the building(s) began at the site of impact versus where the "explosives" where planted. You can SEE the top potion of the building cave into the lower portion(seperated by the plane hole).

You are either saying that (1)the pilots flew precisely where the explosives were set (and didn't break the fuse/daisy chain needed to set them off in succession), OR (2) the buildings did actually start to fall on their own under the conditions present. Please answer.

 

[Cyproz]

well osostoned, i was likeing what you said for a while, and i agree that there is alot of evidence supporting a conspiracy. BUUUUUUUUUUTTTT then you posted 2 glenn beck videos to support your theories. I mean really your gonna back up your argument with that moron?

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

Glenn Beck is Cointel pro, disinformation agent, and a clown. Any corporate media cant be trusted, fox,msnbc,cnn, they are all horrible... the information given to the public is highly controlled.

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

doberman, your still thinking under the circumstances that it would be setup like a normal demolition like any other, it wasn't. Your trying to play devils advocate but really you just dont want to believe that such a thing could occur, go watch a couple hundred hours of film and info about the events of that day like I have, and you wont be so quick to defend the laughable official story.

 

[DobermanGuy]

i dont know for sure what happened. Im just saying if you watch the tower collapsing (that is live truth), the top part of the tower (part above where the plane hit) falls INTO the lower part. That means that the demolitions were set at the point were the plane hit the tower, is that not correct? Or where there individual points to detonate depending on the pilots entry point, lol keep em comin? Ive seen more than enough films on the subject. Ive seen the missile, all of the supposed explosions (which IS air in the building escaping. you are familiar w/ fluid dynamics hopefully). Im not oblivious, im just trying to decide for myself.

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

Those buildings were meant to withstand a plane colliding into them and thats what the architects said, I mean they say the fire got so hot from jet fuel and it melted the steel but like I said, massive steel buildings have burned for days on end, completely on fire, without collapsing at all, and on top of that, there are pictures of people standing right at the edge of where the impact occured where it was supposedly hotter than hell, I dont think so. My common sense alone tells me that those three colossal buildings couldnt have been obliterated like that from 2 plane impacts. Im past the point of no return, Ive researched far too much. That pancake theory is a joke.
Another thing is the way our leaders acted after the attack, dead giveaway, condaleeza and bush up on stage spouting bullshit like "we could have never forseen terrorists flying planes into buildings" "who would have ever thought?"...this is the USA, Washington has thee most protected and secure airspace in the world yet these arabs could hijack planes and fly around all day wreaking havoc and supposedly take it right to the pentagon!? and they werent intercepted or shot down?? you really think our gaurd was just THAT off that day? hahaha

 

[DobermanGuy]

this is what im talking about. Top crumbles into bottim. no demolitions. im so tired of "they said". This tops all educated guesses about explosives because this is pure physics at work here.
[video=youtube;ho6DCYggFKo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ho6DCYggFKo[/video]

 

[MediMary]

great posts everyone.. thanks for starting the thread zep.. and zane thanks for posting the video of witnesses that have died... do you think doc111 unsubscribed ?

 

[SocataSmoker]

See any thing different here?

The second one is the "darkest" color combo they ever produced the plane in, straight from Boeing's mouth!!!

Pratt and Whitney released a statement stating that NO PRATT AND WHITNEY engines were locate at the crash scene at the Pentagon OR Shanksville!!!! how the fuck do you fly a plane with no engines I ask again.

And something you DONT know about me is I was taking flight lesson's from the very same instructors that TRIED to teach the man who supposedly flew that jet inches off the ground in one of the hardest maneuvers that could be created for this particular plane.

PLEASE PROVE ANYTHING I'M SAYING IS FALSE

please I beg you

Oh man... being an avid aviation fanatic, a commercial pilot with over 700 hours in turbine aircraft, I am MORE than happy to prove EVERYTHING you said about the aircraft false.

1. Boeing doesn't paint aircraft.

2. The 2nd picture you posted is of a 757-200, not a 767. And again, Boeing DOESN'T paint aircraft.

3. The image of the United OC (Old Colors) 767-200 proves what? You circled the shark fins on the belly of the aircraft, these are used for radio and navigation equipment and are standard on almost every airliner in the world.

4. Looks the same to me, are you saying United never had 767's painted SO dark?

5. You are ignorant because you claim a 767 cannot maneuver as these guys maneuvered it. To this I call BS, I could slam a 747 or an A380 into the WTC if I wanted... the buildings stuck out like sore thumbs against the expanse of the city, easy targets, easy maneuvering.

6. Pictures just to show you, it's not a fake... or a missle... or whatever the hell else your tin foil covered head thinks up.

Your picture:

Another picture, same aircraft, 767-200.

 

[doc111]

great posts everyone.. thanks for starting the thread zep.. and zane thanks for posting the video of witnesses that have died... do you think doc111 unsubscribed ?

I was never subscribed to this thread. I don't subscribe to these conspiracy threads because I don't buy it. I occasionally pop into a thread like this when I'm bored and usually get beat up for my opinion even though I'm about the only person here that was at ground zero shortly after the attacks.

Oh, and I had my 15 years of firefighting experience challenged. I still suffer from respiratory problems almost 9 years after the fact.

 

[MediMary]

hey doc..
best wishes with your health ..
sucks when firefighters have health problems from helping others...
sucks the gov couldnt be honest about the air quality.. I wonder how many people are sick from the same thing?

 

[doc111]

hey doc..
best wishes with your health ..
sucks when firefighters have health problems from helping others...
sucks the gov couldnt be honest about the air quality.. I wonder how many people are sick from the same thing?

I'm lucky. I was there about a month and have a mild version. Those guys that were there for 9 months or more............they're fucked and I really feel for those guys.

Thanks.

 

[Zig Zag Zane]

I was never subscribed to this thread. I don't subscribe to these conspiracy threads because I don't buy it.

wow you keep saying that ya know? "I dont buy into conspiracy theories"...what exactly dont you buy? I feel that some of it, you must buy...its just to obvious and these theories exist because their is truth to them. This thread isnt just about 9/11, much of what I have stated is fact. But never mind all that, everything is fine, our government has our best interests at heart, they would never lie to us and they are the authority on official stories and you should trust what they say, they always keep us informed openly and honestly about the big boy stuff we need not worry our little minds about, and they are here only in order to help manage us helpless, silly, average citizens right? in one of your earlier posts you said you dont buy into secret societies? they are indeed real and have been influencing much throughout history. I mean you really are going out of your way to NOT want to believe that their are agendas and groups and individuals that would stop at nothing to push that agenda through....because it's simply true, and their is plenty of evidence to support it, history itself is an example. Hitler bombed his own cities in order to invade countries. The depression in the 1930's was orchestrated, as is any decline in the economy. I mean id like to know what you think about the JFK asassination, i'd guess you believe it was the lone nut right? We allowed Pearl Harbor to take place in order to react the way we did. The CIA is basically the united states terrorist organization, and they have been running drugs ever since they've been around and they are still doing it even though they got caught in the iran contra scandal. We have a military industrial complex and a prison industrial complex. Ever hear of Bohemian Grove? The CFR,Trilateral commission, bilderberg, I mean what do you think those groups are!? Why do we have giant fascism symbols in the senate? The IRS is run outta the same building the ATF is run out of, I mean im just throwing shit out there at this point because you gotta see just how crazy this all is, its madness. and I could go on all day with pure examples of what I would label as evidence of this novus ordo seclorum.(on our dollar bill)

 

[one11]

I was never subscribed to this thread. I don't subscribe to these conspiracy threads because I don't buy it. I occasionally pop into a thread like this when I'm bored and usually get beat up for my opinion even though I'm about the only person here that was at ground zero shortly after the attacks.

Oh, and I had my 15 years of firefighting experience challenged. I still suffer from respiratory problems almost 9 years after the fact.

you dont buy these conspiracy theories? how can you back up a gov't that fucked you over and now lies about it and refuses to help you?

 

[DobermanGuy]

you dont buy these conspiracy theories? how can you back up a gov't that fucked you over and now lies about it and refuses to help you?

you are still spending money im sure.

 

[blazin256]

answer me this....how hot does jet fuel burn at and how hot does steel have to get before it turns molten? and how could jet fuel alone cause extreme temperatures at ground zero even a month after the collapse?