allidoissmoke
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im pretty sure its not organic thats why im wondering. (for soil)http://www.grotek.net/products/guide/product.asp?code=calmax
will this product kill beneficial bacteria?
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tomalock
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Why would you want to use that nasty stuff, go to your farmer supply and get you some powdered limestone for 2 or 3 dollars and it will do the same thing and your plants needs lime anyway.
allidoissmoke
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kk thanks for the advice. i already have my plants in the ground, so can i put the dolomite lime on the top and mix it in with the soil?
Gr33nCrack
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that product shoudnt kill the bacteria at all, it should help if anything, you don't need to spend the money on that unless your plants really need it. The soil should have some calcium and tap water has calcium also. I use egg shells for calcium and nitrogen by letting them dry in the sun and by making them into powder with a food processor. You can sprinkle the dolomite lime on top of the soil just mix it as best as possible
tomalock
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Better yet sprinkle a little over top of the soil and water it afterwards, the water will wash it all down thru the soil area just like it would if it rained.
woodsmaneh!
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The lime will work you can also put in rock dust it's not the same as the lime it's better. Blood meal and bone meal are good. The blood meal is better but it's not organic as it's made from dry blood.
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tomalock
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Now why would you say blood isn't organic? Anything made in nature by nature without anything from humans is organic and natural, this includes the actual carcass of the creature and all it's contents.
allidoissmoke
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k, thanks alot for the help. i appreciate it!!!!
woodsmaneh!
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We Calls 'Em Like We Sees 'Em
Don't get me wrong it's my opinion and yes it is organic but is it? and is it worth the risk. You don't need to read far to question if there is not a better way?
Blood meal, bone meal and fish emulsion are just what they say they are: the remains of blood, bones and fish. The first two products come from cattle slaughterhouses, where bones and blood are dried, crushed and packaged for gardeners. Fish emulsion and other fish-based products are made from carcasses left over at fish-processing plants, though sometimes fish are caught specifically to be used as fertilizer.
Right about now, the vegetarian gardeners in the crowd are raising their eyebrows and squirming in their seats. Even borderline carnivores might find this information a bit jarring. Couple this with the threat of mad cow disease, which can be transmitted through bone meal and blood meal, and it's enough to get some gardeners looking for vegetarian alternatives
Don't even start me on whats in the blood. Chernobyl ring a bell. Ever notice that there are no heavy metals analyst done on the label? here is an example of blood meal. Note the arsenic levels .200 in soil is considered not usable for growing. You want to inhale that shit? How about a side of Cadmium or Mercury!
Don't panic about all the metals, there in all kinds of stuff just some things are higher than others and I try to be careful what I put in there and the smoke is that much safer for all.
Peace
Don't get me wrong it's my opinion and yes it is organic but is it? and is it worth the risk. You don't need to read far to question if there is not a better way?
Blood meal, bone meal and fish emulsion are just what they say they are: the remains of blood, bones and fish. The first two products come from cattle slaughterhouses, where bones and blood are dried, crushed and packaged for gardeners. Fish emulsion and other fish-based products are made from carcasses left over at fish-processing plants, though sometimes fish are caught specifically to be used as fertilizer.
Right about now, the vegetarian gardeners in the crowd are raising their eyebrows and squirming in their seats. Even borderline carnivores might find this information a bit jarring. Couple this with the threat of mad cow disease, which can be transmitted through bone meal and blood meal, and it's enough to get some gardeners looking for vegetarian alternatives
Don't even start me on whats in the blood. Chernobyl ring a bell. Ever notice that there are no heavy metals analyst done on the label? here is an example of blood meal. Note the arsenic levels .200 in soil is considered not usable for growing. You want to inhale that shit? How about a side of Cadmium or Mercury!
Don't panic about all the metals, there in all kinds of stuff just some things are higher than others and I try to be careful what I put in there and the smoke is that much safer for all.
Peace
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RavenMochi
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Being from tx, you know I'd be lying if I said I cared about the fact that it comes from slaughtering one of gods creatures, however I can't get over that whole arsenic and mad cow disease thing...scary stuff....
tomalock
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well the bone meal as he says is dried and crushed, well they didn't tell you they are required to also heat the crushed bones to a certain degree BEFORE packaging to kill all the pathogens. Also many people who live on or around chicken houses have access to raw bone meal right out of the furnace, all dead chickens are burned. The heavy metals they mentioned are in everyday life and in no way can they be avoided. They also failed to mention that fish have been used along with manures as plant/crop nutrients since time was recorded without any harm at all.
RavenMochi
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nice....Thank you much, that addressed all my concerns, you rock tomalock.... hey, that rhymes, damn I'm easily amused... 
RavenMochi
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and thats what I'm counting on... Its been so long since Ive had a pure sativa smoke its just tragic.... even if I spend the money to get high grade, all anyone seems to carry round here are either indica or mostly indica, namely cuase all anyone seems to have are blueberry strains... 
Its been so long since Ive had a pure sativa smoke its just tragic.... even if I spend the money to get high grade, all anyone seems to carry round here are either indica or mostly indica, namely cuase all anyone seems to have are blueberry strains...
tomalock
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You might like this if Sativa is your "cup of tea": http://www.marijuana-seeds.nl/super-silver-haze.html I just grew some and it's a nice "Morning" smoke I grew it with a mixture of organics and chemicals and I didn't flush I never flush no need to) of course I do NOT feed my plants nutrients for the last 3-4 weeks or I was told Super Lemon Haze from Greenhouse seeds.
But Sativa isn't for me, I like my pure blood Indicas, not a mixture of the two as you see on the streets but a certified full-blooded Pure Indica. I don't know anything about the seeds they sell her, I'm sure it is pretty good as well as any of the other sellers/breeders. But I have found that if you was to ask the sellers of the seeds which Sativa they recommend they will tell you the best they have/sell.
Our Matriarch was moved out of the woods yesterday and has a new home and her name is Aurora. <g>
But Sativa isn't for me, I like my pure blood Indicas, not a mixture of the two as you see on the streets but a certified full-blooded Pure Indica. I don't know anything about the seeds they sell her, I'm sure it is pretty good as well as any of the other sellers/breeders. But I have found that if you was to ask the sellers of the seeds which Sativa they recommend they will tell you the best they have/sell.
Our Matriarch was moved out of the woods yesterday and has a new home and her name is Aurora. <g>
Because of Mad Cow, swine (pig) blood is used now. At least mine is derived from pig blood.
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