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medicineman and with regards to the planet: you have been fed a lie about global warming from the same liberal media source who has convinced you to hate republicans. research the science behind the global warming bullshit before making up your mind. polution by big industry is the only real environmental issue that can or should be addressed. well, that and genetically altered foods creeping into our world.
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Originally Posted by
medicineman
and with regards to the planet: you have been fed a lie about global warming from the same liberal media source who has convinced you to hate republicans. research the science behind the global warming bullshit before making up your mind. polution by big industry is the only real environmental issue that can or should be addressed. well, that and genetically altered foods creeping into our world.
How many glaciers do I have to see receeding before I can assume there is a warming trend? How many scientific expeditions into the polar caps that have measured glaciers for 20+ years with GPS and concluded that not since recorded history has there been such an escalation in receeding glaciers? How many documentaries that show the receeding glaciers world wide, the Andes, the Himalayas, the Alps. All have receeding glaciers? Why are the ice fields of Greenland shrinking at such an alarming rate? There are rivers of melt water running off those glaciers as wide as the colorado river. How many Native Alaskans do I have to watch seeing their homes being washed away by higher surf than has ever been seen since they can remember? How many south sea Islanders do I have to watch seeing their little islands being swamped by high tides never before seen in their history, 100* heat in N Dakota, Montana, 90*s in southern Canada, floods of biblical porportions accross the globe. Why do you have your head stuck in A. the sand or B. up your colon? BTW, I learned to hate republicans all on my own. I've known a few and seen what those in charge do, thats enough reason to hate their dumb asses.
You're completely missing the point. Yes, the earth is getting warmer, there's no doubt there.. but the reason it's happening. That's where the propaganda begins- the SUN IS GETTING HOTTER. Do the research, scientifically the sun is getting hotter. It's not just effecting us, it's effecting the other planets as well at rates very similar to ours. Any pollution and shyt we are doing here pales in comparison to the NATURAL global warming going on. Plus, the most pollution comes from government.
Btw, it's completely ignorant to judge a GROUP of people by a FEW people. It's more logical to just hate all politicians that to pick a division of it (which really, the divide is constructed and fake). I find it especially alarming for such a close minded view to come from a fellow toker- we've been fighting the assumption for years that all potheads just sit around, get high, and contribute nothing to society. This kind of ignorance is what made marijuana illegal in the first place- why would you add to the hate promoted in this country?
Perhaps you both are little off point.
1. It is true the sun is hotter, from several sources. The flares are MUCH more intense, than ever recorded. A solar flare went out the far side of the sun and toasted Saturn, a couple years back. This was established by telescopes and other devices. So solar intensity is true.
2. Man appears to have at least a limited affect on global warming. This claim is based on some objective evidence.
The real issue is this, why do we waste resources. Should we be engineering simple solutions to reduce pollution and waste. For one thing, we should stop sending as many heavy launch vehicles into space. They have an enormous environmental impact, and cost a fortune to launch.
Forget the polar ice caps. We can't really change much about that. We are talking tenth of a degree increments here. We can reduce asthma, heart attacks, strokes, and other illnesses caused by breathing problems, with better use of resources. Cleaner air means longer lives.
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