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riddleme

Well-Known Member
Scenario:

7 inch plant, nitrogen deficiency, chlorosis is starting.

Zero money for ferts or nutes, what can I use to add nitrogen to the mix that I could get for free?
used coffee grounds or your own pee

soak the coffee grounds (1 cup per gallon of water) to make a tea then water with it leave the grounds so they go into the soil

dilute 1 part pee to 10 parts water don't let it set out needs to be very fresh
 

SmokesLikeBob

Well-Known Member
used coffee grounds or your own pee

soak the coffee grounds (1 cup per gallon of water) to make a tea then water with it leave the grounds so they go into the soil

dilute 1 part pee to 10 parts water don't let it set out needs to be very fresh
Yum...coffee and pee...sounds like one of my mornings! haha...nice home-brew nutes!
 

Joker209

Well-Known Member
Scenario:

7 inch plant, nitrogen deficiency, chlorosis is starting.

Zero money for ferts or nutes, what can I use to add nitrogen to the mix that I could get for free?
I tried to find an old thread I made a while ago and it was about nitrogen supplement. I would recommend tea or coffee grounds, manure (chicken or cattle), feathers, or hair all have nitrogen in them. Here is a quick search for you.
http://www.google.com/#hl=en&source=hp&q=organic+nitrogen+sources&aq=f&aqi=g1&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=CwZHIvWszTOClHZbS6QOoitz_CwAAAKoEBU_Qpz8D&fp=3340bd4cc4e0f847
Here is another really good source for you
http://www.uvm.edu/vtvegandberry/factsheets/organicN.html
cause i need weed and i need somethin to do its a learnin experience so what mistakes i make wont happen again the next time

and plus i know people who just threw the seeds outside and they grew and he got bud from them
and another person who is doing the same thing im doing
I am here to try to save the plants but if you think you can do it then learn as much as you can...
used coffee grounds or your own pee

soak the coffee grounds (1 cup per gallon of water) to make a tea then water with it leave the grounds so they go into the soil

dilute 1 part pee to 10 parts water don't let it set out needs to be very fresh
Urine doesn't have very much Nitrogen in it but it could work for a small boost.
 

ChemoBoy

Active Member
used coffee grounds or your own pee

soak the coffee grounds (1 cup per gallon of water) to make a tea then water with it leave the grounds so they go into the soil

dilute 1 part pee to 10 parts water don't let it set out needs to be very fresh
btw, you can generally get all the free coffee grounds you want from Starbucks. Ask them about it if you don't see a basket with them already bagged up somewhere in a corner. They produce BUCKETS every day.
 

raw225

Active Member
Joker209?

I think i may have burned one of my plants with my 400 watt hps light. I will post a pic soon

the top leaves are still green but they are curling up and drying out. Thats the top half of the plant, the bottom half is fine. I cut off alot of the dry curled leaves, new leaves grew back, they are doing the same thing. I moved the plant far away from the hps light, am i doing the right thing?
Will the plant be okay in the long run?? I have a moisture meter to check my soil, so i know when to water, so i dont under water/over water.

I feed them very lightly ever other week

(I TRIED TO SEARCH AROUND THE FORUM TO FIND A PIC OF A LIGHT BURNED PLANT BUT COULDNT FIND ANY. I WANT BE ABLE TO POST A PIC TILL THE NEXT DAY OR SO, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME & HELP BUDDY!!
 
From my experience, if the bottom leaves curl up and top leaves stay, that is a sure sign of fertilizer burn. In my opinion it could not hurt to just flush the soil until more can be figured out.
 

Joker209

Well-Known Member
Joker209?

I think i may have burned one of my plants with my 400 watt hps light. I will post a pic soon

the top leaves are still green but they are curling up and drying out. Thats the top half of the plant, the bottom half is fine. I cut off alot of the dry curled leaves, new leaves grew back, they are doing the same thing. I moved the plant far away from the hps light, am i doing the right thing?
Will the plant be okay in the long run?? I have a moisture meter to check my soil, so i know when to water, so i dont under water/over water.

I feed them very lightly ever other week

(I TRIED TO SEARCH AROUND THE FORUM TO FIND A PIC OF A LIGHT BURNED PLANT BUT COULDNT FIND ANY. I WANT BE ABLE TO POST A PIC TILL THE NEXT DAY OR SO, THANKS FOR YOUR TIME & HELP BUDDY!!
If just the top of the plant has been effected then don't trip. Keep taking care of her until there are more problems then she can handle then start to panic. Kick back and take a breath. How far away is the light? Usually you want to start 400+ watt hps about 3 foot then move it closer and closer to see how far your plant could handle. Some can handle intense light heat and some can't. Just take care of her and she will come back. You can even cut her where the top is bad and she will just put out new shoots. As for the watering, those meters aren't 100% accurate but I can give you a rule to live by and never over or underwater. Wait for the soil to be pulled away from the edges of the pot (dry) before watering and you wont go wrong :D
From my experience, if the bottom leaves curl up and top leaves stay, that is a sure sign of fertilizer burn. In my opinion it could not hurt to just flush the soil until more can be figured out.
Naw man he said top half and it was the top leafs.
 

LiLKusH

Member
11 sprouts!

how come their leaves arent coming in yet they have four of them but they are small and they are 4 days old
 

Joker209

Well-Known Member
11 sprouts!

how come their leaves arent coming in yet they have four of them but they are small and they are 4 days old
Yo dawg just kick back and watch it grow trust me it will grow fine. You have shitty lights and I told you you couldn't grow like that. Get some scrip and get some better lights. Cfls cost about $10 for a 6 pack at walmart....
 

LiLKusH

Member
ok but this setup is just for here until i move, then i will be getting a better setup
i didn't know they would grow so fast

would you mind typing a list for what i need to get a good grow so i can go get it from my hydro shop, when i move?
 

Joker209

Well-Known Member
ok but this setup is just for here until i move, then i will be getting a better setup
i didn't know they would grow so fast

would you mind typing a list for what i need to get a good grow so i can go get it from my hydro shop, when i move?
This was the idea I used for my next grow but I ended up changing the plot a little because I didn't have the funds.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/317709-jokers-second-journal.html#post3981957
For a more basic grow check out my first grow journal..
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/286576-my-first-riu-grow-journal.html
Cfl's work best for a beginner grow light.
 

LiLKusH

Member
This was the idea I used for my next grow but I ended up changing the plot a little because I didn't have the funds.
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/317709-jokers-second-journal.html#post3981957
For a more basic grow check out my first grow journal..
https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/286576-my-first-riu-grow-journal.html
Cfl's work best for a beginner grow light.
i can't and don't want to get that fancy cause i dont have that much money i will be getting some more in alittle
and i just want the good basic stuff the lights i got now
just the soil and the nutrients i need to know what ones
 

Rusko

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whats up joker.so this is my setup.150w HPS and that light fixture ther with 8 CFL 6 blue and 2 red.taht pic of the plants and both lights plus one fan is days old,ther bigger then that.I also added like 3 more fans.temps r between 80-85degrees. humidity is border of normal and dry,50% it says.I just made that CO2 thing.2L bottle,1L of warm water.1 cup of sugar,1 tblspoon of Yeast.I have approx. 3 feet of clear tubing which is ran into that bowl or warm water,which bubbles creating co2 in the air.(the bottle isnt in the room any more,also the bowl is on a stand right between both plants right at ther level or the base)

I believe i have CALCIUM and MAG def..

prob. a lil dry in ther also.

so yea i am havin slight problems,my leaves feel dry.I water them soo im confused.

the new sun leaves that came in are droopy and dark/dry(see pic up there)

Just let me knw if u knw diagnosis on anything.....ANY AND ALL tips/advice will gladly be heard.
 

raw225

Active Member
If just the top of the plant has been effected then don't trip. Keep taking care of her until there are more problems then she can handle then start to panic. Kick back and take a breath. How far away is the light? Usually you want to start 400+ watt hps about 3 foot then move it closer and closer to see how far your plant could handle. Some can handle intense light heat and some can't. Just take care of her and she will come back. You can even cut her where the top is bad and she will just put out new shoots. As for the watering, those meters aren't 100% accurate but I can give you a rule to live by and never over or underwater. Wait for the soil to be pulled away from the edges of the pot (dry) before watering and you wont go wrong :D

Naw man he said top half and it was the top leafs.

THANKS ALOT JOKER!!! i was wondering why one plant did that & my other plant is okay! i think i will cut off alot of the stems to make new fresh ones. i will post up pics ASAP! the starain that burned is DURBAN POISON, other than that, its healthy!!! & smells like som GAS!!!!
 

Joker209

Well-Known Member
whats up joker.so this is my setup.150w HPS and that light fixture ther with 8 CFL 6 blue and 2 red.taht pic of the plants and both lights plus one fan is days old,ther bigger then that.I also added like 3 more fans.temps r between 80-85degrees. humidity is border of normal and dry,50% it says.I just made that CO2 thing.2L bottle,1L of warm water.1 cup of sugar,1 tblspoon of Yeast.I have approx. 3 feet of clear tubing which is ran into that bowl or warm water,which bubbles creating co2 in the air.(the bottle isnt in the room any more,also the bowl is on a stand right between both plants right at ther level or the base)

I believe i have CALCIUM and MAG def..

prob. a lil dry in ther also.

so yea i am havin slight problems,my leaves feel dry.I water them soo im confused.

the new sun leaves that came in are droopy and dark/dry(see pic up there)

Just let me knw if u knw diagnosis on anything.....ANY AND ALL tips/advice will gladly be heard.
You need to follow my directions on inserting images in this thread. There are no pictures and without pictures this could be anything bud :D

THANKS ALOT JOKER!!! i was wondering why one plant did that & my other plant is okay! i think i will cut off alot of the stems to make new fresh ones. i will post up pics ASAP! the starain that burned is DURBAN POISON, other than that, its healthy!!! & smells like som GAS!!!!
If just the top of the plant has been effected then don't trip. Keep taking care of her until there are more problems then she can handle then start to panic. Kick back and take a breath. How far away is the light? Usually you want to start 400+ watt hps about 3 foot then move it closer and closer to see how far your plant could handle. Some can handle intense light heat and some can't. Just take care of her and she will come back. You can even cut her where the top is bad and she will just put out new shoots. As for the watering, those meters aren't 100% accurate but I can give you a rule to live by and never over or underwater. Wait for the soil to be pulled away from the edges of the pot (dry) before watering and you wont go wrong :D
It's there :D
 
got aphides and whiteflies, outside grow, 6 weeks into flowering. fighting aphides manually, kinda loosing ): can i use pesticide this late? will it still be smokable? what can i do?

am going to hang sticky-yellow-stripes, though not sure will help since outside. tried dish-soap and water and i think i almost killed a plant...

i REALLY need some answers...
 

Joker209

Well-Known Member
got aphides and whiteflies, outside grow, 6 weeks into flowering. fighting aphides manually, kinda loosing ): can i use pesticide this late? will it still be smokable? what can i do?

am going to hang sticky-yellow-stripes, though not sure will help since outside. tried dish-soap and water and i think i almost killed a plant...

i REALLY need some answers...
You can go get some praying mantis eggs and in about 3 days the eggs will open and out will come 100+ baby mantis that will take care of your problem.
Just a search I did real quick
http://www.arbico-organics.com/product/Praying-Mantid-Eggs
 

ChemoBoy

Active Member
You can go get some praying mantis eggs and in about 3 days the eggs will open and out will come 100+ baby mantis that will take care of your problem.
Just a search I did real quick
http://www.arbico-organics.com/product/Praying-Mantid-Eggs
Not to step on the more experienced growers, but I wiped out a whole generation of aphids on my plants (and on everything else in my garden) with 8.99 worth of ladybugs from a garden shop 5 minutes from my house. Just put them out on moist soil at the base of each plant right at the end of the day when it's almost dark. Mist the plant and the soil first. They'll cluster on the plants for the night, then wake up with the munchies like me. Once your plants are clean, they fly away.



And newbie question for you: how are you in flowering outside at this time of year? Did you use dark bags?
 

Joker209

Well-Known Member
Lady bugs do the same as praying mantis but praying mantis can get up to 8 inches tall (tallest I've seen so far) and that kind of bug will eat a lot of bugs lol
 
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