P.P.P. x Blueberry x Sativa.(Full gro with pics)
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natmoon
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I just thought it was important for new growers.
I realize that some people have to pay a lot of money for their seeds even if i don't and i had visions of them hanging there hps to near the plants and frying them up
Glad you liked the pics,i reckon these new ones are gonna be seriously strong,seedlings with trics,whatever next
Blueberry2008
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Cool then I feel prety lucky then that I didnt fry mine up. Now at what point does a plant cross over from a seedling stage to veg?? I hung my 400w hps like 20inches form my plants. Mind you also I do have proper ventilation also I do keep a active regular eye on them, some good old TLC for mine all the time 
natmoon
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If you have proper ventilation should be fine,great even.Cool then I feel prety lucky then that I didnt fry mine up. Now at what point does a plant cross over from a seedling stage to veg?? I hung my 400w hps like 20inches form my plants. Mind you also I do have proper ventilation also I do keep a active regular eye on them, some good old TLC for mine all the time
I dont the exact agreed on stage for that to be honest but in my mind it is when it has 3 nodes and is ready for topping or fimming
natmoon
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Well seeing as i wasn't permanently banned there seems no point in me being a spoiled child and leaving when i have so much to share.
I will no longer argue with people,just post what i think and leave it at that with no response to any comment that may lead to heated discussions.
Here are all of the latest pictures for anyone who's interested.
Cant be assed to write every detail of what i have done so far and i will get back to writing proper update info when the next lot of pics are ready.
Trics are apparent already even on my 16 day old babies from seed without soaking before planting,just straight into the mud.
I have transplanted them into seperate pots with an 80% soil 20% perlite mix that i made myself.
Tried to lower the hps a little to much and a few drips from the roof of the propagator have singed some tips in the glare but it hasn't seemed to bother them to much.
I will no longer argue with people,just post what i think and leave it at that with no response to any comment that may lead to heated discussions.
Here are all of the latest pictures for anyone who's interested.
Cant be assed to write every detail of what i have done so far and i will get back to writing proper update info when the next lot of pics are ready.
Trics are apparent already even on my 16 day old babies from seed without soaking before planting,just straight into the mud.
I have transplanted them into seperate pots with an 80% soil 20% perlite mix that i made myself.
Tried to lower the hps a little to much and a few drips from the roof of the propagator have singed some tips in the glare but it hasn't seemed to bother them to much.
natmoon
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No worries,glad you liked em.
Hows your stuff doing?
tahoe58
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pretty good I think....I'm posting a couple current shots right now....up in a few minutes...thanks for asking! cheers man! NB - still no friggin earphones! GRRRRRRRRR
*****EDIT***** and I would really appreciate an honest opinion....really....i want to know what people that have siginficantly more exposure have to say...whatever that is....
*****EDIT***** and I would really appreciate an honest opinion....really....i want to know what people that have siginficantly more exposure have to say...whatever that is....
natmoon
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I will find your thread and pop my head in to take a peekpretty good I think....I'm posting a couple current shots right now....up in a few minutes...thanks for asking! cheers man! NB - still no friggin earphones! GRRRRRRRRR
I hate my headphones i think they are responsible for the majority of my headaches.
As soon as i have a spare 100 quid i am going to buy a pair to,i have chosen these ones.
Super.fi 5 EB Description
tahoe58
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excellent...i don't expect you'd be disappointed...
for ease....my thread...
Tahoe's doing it - stepping up to the plate....we're ready.....
for ease....my thread...
Tahoe's doing it - stepping up to the plate....we're ready.....
natmoon
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Only a couple of days left till the first fimm is done.
The arrow points to the part of the plant that i am waiting to snip off.
I always do this when then plant is very young as i believe that the chance of ending up with 4 or 5 new tops from each fimm is greater when the plant is as young as possible.
I have used a magnifying glass with my camera but i don't think this makes the pics any better really than plain old zooming in on them.
I hope to achieve a 40-50 eighth plant i.e. 40 or 50 stems of one plant in a short time.
I have designed,by ripping of various ideas and techniques from other growers and grow methods,a new pot for soil and i hope that this will help to shorten the grow time and increase the quality of the bud.
May not even work for all i know.
When the plant that is the best shows itself it will be put into the new pot in the prime light position directly under the 400 watt lamp.
All the other plants will be moved to sit around the outside edges of my grow.
Hopefully i will get at least one male so that i can inbreed the genes into the best female available to me.
Obviously i am limited for choice in breeding selection to what comes out of growing up only 10 plants were in an ideal situation you could choose the best from a 1000 plants.
The arrow points to the part of the plant that i am waiting to snip off.
I always do this when then plant is very young as i believe that the chance of ending up with 4 or 5 new tops from each fimm is greater when the plant is as young as possible.
I have used a magnifying glass with my camera but i don't think this makes the pics any better really than plain old zooming in on them.
I hope to achieve a 40-50 eighth plant i.e. 40 or 50 stems of one plant in a short time.
I have designed,by ripping of various ideas and techniques from other growers and grow methods,a new pot for soil and i hope that this will help to shorten the grow time and increase the quality of the bud.
May not even work for all i know.
When the plant that is the best shows itself it will be put into the new pot in the prime light position directly under the 400 watt lamp.
All the other plants will be moved to sit around the outside edges of my grow.
Hopefully i will get at least one male so that i can inbreed the genes into the best female available to me.
Obviously i am limited for choice in breeding selection to what comes out of growing up only 10 plants were in an ideal situation you could choose the best from a 1000 plants.
natmoon
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I still learn new stuff ever day.
For instance i have always disliked hydro/aero stuff but when i looked into emails grow the other day and saw how quickly you can bring on a seedling in an aero setup i was totally amazed.
I am seriously looking into making myself a small diy aero kit to bring seedlings on for the first few weeks.
I will still transplant them back into soil after say 3-4 weeks because i know what i am doing with soil and its cheaper and easier for me
There are a couple of diy kit explanations in the faq sections here and in various posts.
Always stuff to learn in an ever changing world
natmoon
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I let them have 8 hours sleep for the first time today as i thought they were looking like they would appreciate a rest.
They are still not quite ready to meet my japanese steel and be fimmed
I am hoping at the moment that its possible to say(hopefully)that because as you can see some of these plants have obvious female trics (unpotent) already and some do not that it may even be possible for me to say that i can tell the females from the males already.
This will remain to be seen though and later on i am going to mark each pot as to what i think it is based purely on the amount of fake/immature tric looking spots that i can see on the leaves.
If i have accidentally created a strain that you can tell males from females at such an early stage that would be cool.
I am going to base my theory on the fact that when i zoom in on them the plants that have much higher concentrations of tric/hair sites are going to be females and the ones that have the least will be males.
May not be at all but i am going to try to predict it on this basis and see what happens.
Some distortion is already apparent on some of the plants and i think some of them may already grow 2 or more tops because of the hps being to low when they were very young and the fact that they were in a propagator and that it dripped on them whilst the light was on to near the tops.
Anyway a couple more days till i can fimm them and next time i will try to buy a mh for veg but for now i am skint so hps will have to do.
Any thoughts or comments on the male/female prediction and why my ideas may or may not work is appreciated.
I also have realized that i may have come across to arrogantly in the past and that i think i am the master grower or something.
I don't actually think that but i have got set in my old hippie ways.
I am happy to hear advice,tips and constructive comments of any kind negative or positive.
They are still not quite ready to meet my japanese steel and be fimmed
I am hoping at the moment that its possible to say(hopefully)that because as you can see some of these plants have obvious female trics (unpotent) already and some do not that it may even be possible for me to say that i can tell the females from the males already.
This will remain to be seen though and later on i am going to mark each pot as to what i think it is based purely on the amount of fake/immature tric looking spots that i can see on the leaves.
If i have accidentally created a strain that you can tell males from females at such an early stage that would be cool.
I am going to base my theory on the fact that when i zoom in on them the plants that have much higher concentrations of tric/hair sites are going to be females and the ones that have the least will be males.
May not be at all but i am going to try to predict it on this basis and see what happens.
Some distortion is already apparent on some of the plants and i think some of them may already grow 2 or more tops because of the hps being to low when they were very young and the fact that they were in a propagator and that it dripped on them whilst the light was on to near the tops.
Anyway a couple more days till i can fimm them and next time i will try to buy a mh for veg but for now i am skint so hps will have to do.
Any thoughts or comments on the male/female prediction and why my ideas may or may not work is appreciated.
I also have realized that i may have come across to arrogantly in the past and that i think i am the master grower or something.
I don't actually think that but i have got set in my old hippie ways.
I am happy to hear advice,tips and constructive comments of any kind negative or positive.
natmoon
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Well i am hoping that if we can see the seedlings close up we may be able to identify females from the denseness and abundance of tric spots being superior to that of a male.
Is all theory and speculation so far but hopefully it might be a good place to start in being able to weed out males or at least give light placement preference in the grow area to the ones we think are most likely to be females
natmoon
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Thats not what i had in mind.
I believe that this is definitely a female.
And that this has a good chance of being either a male or a poor female that i will not bother to breed with.
Zoomed as you can see bugger all trics.
Same seeds same everything no trics.
Nothing will have to be chopped off.
Did i give that impression?
So hard for me to communicate properly in text messages