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[Heads Up]

Jig, you do hydro do you not?

 

[Heads Up]

Anyway back to the point from my previous answer about leaves. Since I have not enough grow experience under my belt to keep repeating the same thing over and over like some of our prize winners on here, like genuity, every grow for me is an experiment, sometimes several at once. This grow I used smart pots for the first time, really like them, best thing I've used as far as stopping the plants roots from 'winding' around the bottom of the container. I also tried to fim my plants, some got topped some I'm not exactly sure what the outcome is going to be? My main interest was trying to control their height. I would like them to not get over thirty inches, I think I may achieve that goal. This upcoming sunday I will flip them to flower. I've taken plenty of leaves off and this is the first time I've done that.

I just read an article about trimming fan leaves and the guy had a great idea. Starting at the bottom of the plant, take off one fan leaf, rotate the pot a quarter turn and take the next fan leaf off from the node above the bottom, another quarter turn and up another node and remove fan leaf, till you get to where you want to stop. The next week do the same process.

 

[strictly seedleSs]

Days-Thats my hydro ebb and flow octagon. The top tier has plants that would grow into the cieling (above the light by 10") and I bend them over to get the light. I have plants from below to above my lights, I dont waste any light...im kind of a tight-wad for the electric bill. I dont get much off each plant, but I have 87 plants in there. Im even doubling up on some of my rockwool now, as in 2 plants in one cube. Less veg, and I grow some stretchy strains. From cutting my clones to the time they could be flowered, is 5 weeks or less. I will be doing a perpetual grow with a harvest every 4 weeks. I dont like alot of the "high yielding" strains, so I grow alot og "OG" strains. But if I did grow a big strain, then I think I could veg even less time, and get the same or more wieght.



and you would not regret buying some cooltubes. I would like to get the 2 up version.

 

[Heads Up]

I've have kept the P very low during veg and have tried to keep my lights out temp as close to my lights on temp, it supposedly helps to keep the plant from stretching. My lemon skunks are unreal. I have not seen a plant with such tight internode spacing. I hope they get a bit bigger before sunday. My tallest plants are about fifteen inches and the rest about a foot. Even if they start to stretch when I hit them with a high dose of P, I still don't expect them to get over thirty inches. I don't really worry about weight. I try to get at least two ounces from a plant doing a vertical grow with horizontal lights, anything over I feel like it's a bonus. I can't remember for sure but I think this is my sixth grow and third using hid lighting. My next grow is going to be a horizontal scrog. I'm thinking four plants, all sativa dominant. I'll be going back to using my three gallon waste paper baskets for their depth. I want these babies to know they have room to grow. I'm looking for a six foot plant, maybe seven feet. I figure the first foot of the plant will be stem so a five or six foot plant under the lights would be nice. I actually think I could do it with two plants, fill the screen, but I'm going for overkill this next grow. I want some weight.

My girls will be five and six weeks into veg when I flip them sunday. One of my beans is a female and I hope when I go in at seven I can identify the other. Six girls so far with two to go. I may have chopped a female LA confidential, well the main stalk. I still have two remaining side branches, just to make sure it's a male.

 

[Heads Up]

Can you use the water from a dehumidifier to water your plants?

 

[1badmasonman]

Congrats hotsauce, nothing like bringing in the first crop. I've looked at durban poison many times and the amount of leaves in the pictures always stops me from buying it, although I understand the smoke is supposed to be very good. My partner grew a mazar once, we called it the Odouls of weed. Lots of leaves, so many we couldn't find any bud after trimming it. What little we did get, well, it was the Odouls of weed.

Ahh hahaa the odouls of weed. Funny shit HU. Looks like the real deal but lacking the goods. lol.

Today is the end of week five for vegging for one LA Confidential, one OG18, one sleestack, and the end of week four for the lemon skunks. All of the mentioned strains have been crossed with the same skunk father, except the lemon skunks, those are beans from a previous grow from my partner, they are the females I have so far. I also have two beans of my own making that are five weeks old but I still cannot detect their sex. I also have another LA Confidential that I chopped the main stalk cause I thought it was a male but I still have a part of it growing to make sure. I sure hope I didn't chop a female.

The first pic is my og18, the second my sleestack, the third the LA and the fourth my two lemon skunks. The rest are group shots.

The last pic are my plants from the seed I made, can't tell what they are yet.

Eww them ladies look quite happy indeed HU.

cheese mom


Cheese daughter of mom^^^^


DPQ:


Thelma:


CaliO X Headband - outdoor


OG Kush


And there are many more in my journal (around 50 pics updated )

Peace, of to tend the bbq/braai

DST

Just amazing D. That Cali O Headband is a freaking monster. Nice work man. Ohh and the Cheese. MMM Cant wait to fool with that bean although its probably of inferior genetics. A knock off bean from GHS. If its anything like that cheese that was around my parts last winter ill be a happy roger 600 watter.

So this is my first grow and it's harvest time for my Green Crack. This is my first time manicuring and it is F-ing time consuming. My first plant took me 5 hours to do. I thought it was going to take 5 hours to do all 3. So I did 1 Friday and 1 yesterday and I have the 3rd today. Yesterday I knocked it out in 2 1/2 hours. I was relieved. Next week My Blue Dream will be ready. I am so freak'n happy they weren't ready yet. Well here's a couple pics of what I have right now. I wish I had a better camera to give these buds some justice. They smell like pineapple and are sticky as fuck. They are pretty frosty too.
View attachment 1075517This was the first girl I harvested. She was the smallest of the 3
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View attachment 1075521This is a pic of the first girl drying.

Very nice cheech. Quite a hefty harvest ayy.

just seeking a little advise on my next vertical grow...

at the moment i have 12 around a bare bulb 600..
next i want 2 bare bulb 600s and 6 or 9 plants....

6-9 ak47 topped around the 5th node... vegged for about 8 weeks.. and trained to grow vert... pulling all the shoots to the side with the bulb...

set up like this X=plant 0=bulb
X X X
X 0 X 0 X
X X X

or if it was just 6 i would do this
X X X
0 0
X X X

but it seems like a waste of light... although im working off 1g per what(probably more like 1.5), 6 plants would be 1200 so about 7 oz per plant i just dont know if that is better than 9 plants which would be more like 5oz per plant.

i dont know how well the vert grow works (im only week 3 flower but its looking awesome) but do you think i could yield more with 6 or 9?
going to be working with a space about 8foot long by 6 foot wide by 8 foot tall

any ideas would be great. ive been racking my brain for ages trying to think of a better way... atm my 12 plants around 1 600 veg for 4 weeks in a 6foot hexagonal tent.. plants on 2 levels.. is too much .. its a fucking jungle.. i cant even get in.. so i need to rethink y next grow.

heres how the current grow looks at 2 weeks flower
(i think i allready showed right? sorry if i did) sorry about the quality it was a phone camera.






and every few days.... i have to do this ...

Interesting array of your arrangments Daze. I can help but wonder why you would cut the very eliment that produces bud. Im not hating im just scratching me head. Those leaves are solar panels for the plant. It really dont matter if your budsites are covered as the leaves that produce its food are the fan leaves. Its a controversial topic on riu especially in Desertrats thread. Dertrats top & prune. If you read through its a very interesting bit to read. Mr desertrat is in full support of pruning a few fan leaves in a stair step fashion While the oppossing party Uncle Ben a botanist insists hes removing the very eliment that produces food for the buds. I highly recommend reading it. Heres the link. https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/330111-anybody-want-double-their-yield.html. However im not buying the whole double your yeild bs that Desertrat is proposing to his audience. Its just not going to happen. However the technique could be very benificial in a scrog setup. It does have its advantages but i wouldnt be taking off alot of leaves. Just remember them leaves collect the solar energy to process food to feed the fruit of the plant. In this case Buds.. Its what ive learned about botany and horticulture in my very breif life as a ganja grower. Check it out and decide for yourself. Im still following along meself.

Here you go DST. Remember now this stuff came in a light he ordered back in 1988.

Damnit boy. Thats fkn cool HU. Does the light still work? If so thats insane. Got to be a huge mofo haha.

Anyway back to the point from my previous answer about leaves. Since I have not enough grow experience under my belt to keep repeating the same thing over and over like some of our prize winners on here, like genuity, every grow for me is an experiment, sometimes several at once. This grow I used smart pots for the first time, really like them, best thing I've used as far as stopping the plants roots from 'winding' around the bottom of the container. I also tried to fim my plants, some got topped some I'm not exactly sure what the outcome is going to be? My main interest was trying to control their height. I would like them to not get over thirty inches, I think I may achieve that goal. This upcoming sunday I will flip them to flower. I've taken plenty of leaves off and this is the first time I've done that.

Me too HU. Love to experiment a bit.

I just read an article about trimming fan leaves and the guy had a great idea. Starting at the bottom of the plant, take off one fan leaf, rotate the pot a quarter turn and take the next fan leaf off from the node above the bottom, another quarter turn and up another node and remove fan leaf, till you get to where you want to stop. The next week do the same process.

YES thats the thread i was talking about. Its full of great info. Interesting to say the least.

Time for a drag of some BW peace 1bmm

 

[Heads Up]

That article about stair-stepping the fan leaves was also in that Urban Garden magazine. A really good read. Has anyone ever heard of vapor pressure deficit? Me neither until I read this article. Anyone with experience knows this, the drier your air, the more water you plants will lose. I have one plant that until I read this article I just thought that was the way it grew. Every evening when the lights would come on I would notice this one plant with extremely cupped leaves, almost rolled into a tube. If I managed to stay awake until about eleven, my last check of the evening and the plant would look much better. What was happening was the plant was losing so much moisture to the air, the top leaves closest to the light would roll up their edges in an attempt to give the light as little surface as possible to hit in order to try to conserve moisture. My humidity at canopy level is about forty percent, dry. The rest of the room with lights on about forty five percent. Last night I put a tote with water and four air stones in the room hoping it would put more humidity into the air. In a two gallon smart pot I'm giving these girls about twenty ounces of water an evening, each. It's what my arjan's haze was telling me last grow. I need more humidity. I think I will be forced to invest in a humidifier.

 

[Heads Up]

hotsauce, I bought the same thing x2. I use the growbright bulbs and can't complain. I even got the same relfectors, the easy cool six. I saw a post of yours in another thread about growbright lamps.

 

[dr green dre]

whats up room..
heres an update on my Dwc grow/cheese
week 6, 2 wks into flower.. Big bubb's looking healthy. Might of vegged the 20ltr ones a little too long..
Any comments welcome..

Roots are stained from the root ex,i believe cant see any problems down there..might invest in another pump dnt think theres enough bubbles in there..

 

[days to daze]

dr green
just curious .. i was thinking of ditching th soil next grow
if i went dwc can you tell me how you change the water in the tank?

i mean its probably simple but i just dont get it ... surely you have to change it right or do you just keep tabs on it and adjust it with the plant still growing in it?

 

[HoLE]

okay,,,so the 3 NL times Skunk are taking long as usual,very hairy and bulky,,but the 3 mystery plants are almost right on time,covered in icing,,these pics are at 6 weeks flowering,,,but it is now 7 weeks today


Hope all is growing well with everyone

 

[1badmasonman]

Nice pic update Hole. Quite frosty indeed. NL times skunk sounds like a nice cross. You dont keep a journal ayy?. Well on a humorous note That avatar of yours reminds me of my old booze brother neighbor who walks down the streets just like you r avvy ahhhaahaha. Quite a funny sight, he could be a limbo fkn champion lol. I always yell to the him hay quit dragging your fukn head on the sidewalk man lol. Funny shit dude. peace

 

[silverhazefiend]

Theres alot of diffrent styles being implemented by u 600 folk...I was gonna go with the vertgrow but now im thinking sog..my only problem with vert is having 2 move the plants around 2 water and making sure my cooltube is cool enough..and all the light is being used..a sog should yield around the same..4-1 gallons to a sq foot..8sq ft..HOPEFULLY a ounce to 3/4 ounce..in each bag ..24-32 ounces..keep 4 moms..6 clones each mom..pick the best 4 and veg for 2 weeks..maybe one week depending on size(after rooting)..and this way i can keep a few autos in the veg room jus for kicks while they flower..ive seen a dual arc cooltube i was gonna get has anybody used this? should i go with a 150w for my veg tent or 2 200w cfls?

 

[jigfresh]

Yes, you are correct, that's scooby. He's been with me from here to california and back. I've had him at least twelve years. He is not in pristine condition. He's a comforter, not sheets. I'm old jig, I'm from the old school, would you expect anything else?

I love it Heads up. And no I wouldnt' expect anything else. In fact, I'd be let down if it were any other way. I'm still praying for you to win the fla lotto. Don't think I forgot your offer. (assuming I'm one of the 10 lucky ones, lol)

Jig, you do hydro do you not?

Hydro all the way. I tried 2 soil plants once... got a whopping 5 grams I beleive. Yeah... 5 grams. HAHA

Can you use the water from a dehumidifier to water your plants?

No idea, but I don't see why not.

I need more humidity. I think I will be forced to invest in a humidifier.

I'm not sure about all that. I think 50 % is good and high enough for veg... maybe 60% with lots of air flow. During flower, I would love to keep my humidity around 15%. Get the trichs packing on. If you do use a humidifier, be sure if you use tap water for it, you let it sit out to evaporate the chlorine (or whatever that bad stuff is in tap). I use RO for watering and would use for a humidifier if needed.

HoLE... Great looking plants my friend.

Dr. Green. Love all those roots. DWC is just the best in my opinion.

And to Dayz... to dump the DWC I've used a water pump that sits at the bottom to pump out the old, then refilled. Also I've had drain valves installed in the tank, so I can just drain the water out. Either way it's pretty easy. (if you do it right)

 

[HookdOnChronics]

okay,,,so the 3 NL times Skunk are taking long as usual,very hairy and bulky,,but the 3 mystery plants are almost right on time,covered in icing,,these pics are at 6 weeks flowering,,,but it is now 7 weeks today


Hope all is growing well with everyone

lol, Dude pretty plants! I couldn't help but nottice that that first pic you posted... It looks a bit like a strain I currently have growin. This is an old pic from a long ago harvested plant. lol, but check it!

First pic is your bud, second pic is my bud.
I dunno maybe I'm just baked and crazy. lol, you pic reminded me of that tho.

 

[strictly seedleSs]

Yes, you can use the water from your dehumidifier or the run off from your A/C. The ppm is very low with the water from these, almost like RO water.

7 weeks is a couple days away. I will probably start chopping the ladies this weekend. I know some people will argue this, but there is something about the octagon and the bush master that take almost a week off the flower time. I will give them 24 hours of dark before I cut, so some of the plants may get as much as 72 hours of dark (depending on how quickly I trim).

 

[Hotsause]

hotsauce, I bought the same thing x2. I use the growbright bulbs and can't complain. I even got the same relfectors, the easy cool six. I saw a post of yours in another thread about growbright lamps.

Yea i love that bulb but this is my first run so i really have nothing to compare it to

 

[Integra21]

yeah i thought about hanging it but i couldnt be bothered.. at the moment the circulating fan is louder than the inline fan in the box.. the main worry was that from the fan the air is expelled though a hole i put in the chimney.. (which happens to be ajoint wall with my neighbours bedroom.. i was more worried about them hearing the sound of the air at night.

im not sure how it works with the cooltube..
i wont need to bring cold air from outside will i .. i guess i can just have a passive intake from the warmer indoor air (which happens to have more co2 anyway right)
the only problem i seem to have is with humidity.. cant get it below 60 .. probably because of the soil... and the fact they need watering every 2-days..

more reasons to go hydro huh.

Thats prety much a description of my setup. Last run I had 3 plants in a 3'x4' flat scrog and pulled a pound. Those clones were vegged for 5 weeks. And on the other side same screen ad light, just 6 small clones just over 2 weeks from cut to flower, and they only yielded 6 grams less. I might try to oursuade you in that direction if you're interested. Here are before and after pics of the current run with small clones. 3.5 weeks from cut to flower.

And from the last update

I probly should have stuck with 4 plants instead of 5.

 

[DST]

Here you go DST. Remember now this stuff came in a light he ordered back in 1988.

Awesome HU. The NL5 cross looks awesome. We use to have a clone going around back in Scotland that was Northern Lights A. This was the shizznit. The strain was going around for over a decade in the late 80's and through the 90's. Instant red eye material!!! And like Jig, I also noticed Scooby Doo, lol.

One more things.... I pull a crazy amound of leaves from my grows as a small space and giant plants = wayyyyyyyy tooo many leaves. Next run I'm growing more smaller plants to try to avoid pulling so much plant matter out. It's like I veg longer than everyone, just to trim off half the damn plant.

Heads up> Wow. I'm impressed with the vintage cannabis collection. Being a sports memorabilia guy, I appreciate old books and fliers like that, really get's me going. Thanks for sharing that with us. Just beyond cool to me.

Also, I'm equally impressed with the Scooby Do sheets. I'm correct with that, yeah? Old school all around.

Lastly, weight per plant really means nothing my friend. Some people run SOG and only get 1/2 oz per plant. And the outdoor guys get 1 pound or more from 1 plant. It's really your growing style.

I agree, weight relates to nadda. It's all in what you smoke and how you enjoy it....I am like seedless, I seem to grow low yielding strains (except the Casey possibly) with high potency!! I grow for myself, that's why.

whats up room..
heres an update on my Dwc grow/cheese
week 6, 2 wks into flower.. Big bubb's looking healthy. Might of vegged the 20ltr ones a little too long..
Any comments welcome..View attachment 1077770View attachment 1077775View attachment 1077767View attachment 1077773View attachment 1077771

Roots are stained from the root ex,i believe cant see any problems down there..might invest in another pump dnt think theres enough bubbles in there..

Looks nice, can't really comment on the roots as I am not too proficient with hydro....

okay,,,so the 3 NL times Skunk are taking long as usual,very hairy and bulky,,but the 3 mystery plants are almost right on time,covered in icing,,these pics are at 6 weeks flowering,,,but it is now 7 weeks today


Hope all is growing well with everyone

All is well HoLE, plants looks frosty. Keep us posted and don't be a stranger.

Yes, you can use the water from your dehumidifier or the run off from your A/C. The ppm is very low with the water from these, almost like RO water.

7 weeks is a couple days away. I will probably start chopping the ladies this weekend. I know some people will argue this, but there is something about the octagon and the bush master that take almost a week off the flower time. I will give them 24 hours of dark before I cut, so some of the plants may get as much as 72 hours of dark (depending on how quickly I trim).

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Nice nice nice!!!!

Thats prety much a description of my setup. Last run I had 3 plants in a 3'x4' flat scrog and pulled a pound. Those clones were vegged for 5 weeks. And on the other side same screen ad light, just 6 small clones just over 2 weeks from cut to flower, and they only yielded 6 grams less. I might try to oursuade you in that direction if you're interested. Here are before and after pics of the current run with small clones. 3.5 weeks from cut to flower.

And from the last update

I probly should have stuck with 4 plants instead of 5.

To Daze: if you already have an inline fan, why don't you just connect that to a cool tube, if you are pulling air out of the room with that inline just connect the cool tube to it and pull the air through the cool tube....trust me (and Jig) you will not regret it!!!

 

[Heads Up]

Thanks guys for the answer about water. I've read it's almost like distilled water but I wanted to double check. I also read the water comes out at a ph of seven. With my dehumidifier running I can have a couple of gallons of water daily.