More global warming/climate change FRAUD!

[NoDrama]

Even more Fraud, this one perpetrated by a Government agency that is funded by tax payer dollars.

Once you see how they skew the results you will laugh. Some places in Wisconsin were being reported with data that said the temperatures were as high as 600F, that's right, SIX HUNDRED degrees. Just a few of these well placed "Hot spots" will bring the average up 10-15 degrees for their whole set of data.

Here is the story: http://www.climatechangefraud.com/climate-reports/7479-us-government-in-massive-new-global-warming-scandal-noaa-disgraced

yes your government lies to you, most of the time.

 

[doc111]

Even more Fraud, this one perpetrated by a Government agency that is funded by tax payer dollars.

Once you see how they skew the results you will laugh. Some places in Wisconsin were being reported with data that said the temperatures were as high as 600F, that's right, SIX HUNDRED degrees. Just a few of these well placed "Hot spots" will bring the average up 10-15 degrees for their whole set of data.

Here is the story: http://www.climatechangefraud.com/climate-reports/7479-us-government-in-massive-new-global-warming-scandal-noaa-disgraced

yes your government lies to you, most of the time.

Damn! Again? They just can't wait to ram cap and trade down our throats, can they?

 

[UncleBuck]

i imagine any website called climatechangefraud.com is going to be completely unbiased

care to explain why the plankton is disappearing? the polar ice caps vanishing? a chunk of greenland the size of manhattan just fell into the ocean? 20% of pakistan is underwater? wildfires rage across russia? record temps all over the states (despie solar irradiance at a record low) and the hottest year on record? why are these prolonged heat waves expected to be commonplace?

one piece of bad science does not indict a mountain of good science. you have to simply ask which theory more likely: climate destabilization is a decades in the making conspiracy to force cap and trade on the american people (i guess you missed the part where dems recently dropped this legislation despite having their best chance at passing it right now) OR 99% of publishing and peer-reviewed climate researchers have a solid theory with plenty of evidence that explains the phenomenons we are currently witnessing.

tell me which is more likely, tin foil hat man

 

[KBRoaster]

Even more Fraud, this one perpetrated by a Government agency that is funded by tax payer dollars.

Once you see how they skew the results you will laugh. Some places in Wisconsin were being reported with data that said the temperatures were as high as 600F, that's right, SIX HUNDRED degrees. Just a few of these well placed "Hot spots" will bring the average up 10-15 degrees for their whole set of data.

Here is the story: http://www.climatechangefraud.com/climate-reports/7479-us-government-in-massive-new-global-warming-scandal-noaa-disgraced

yes your government lies to you, most of the time.

Yeah, I believe this people over the scientist at Nasa. Not.

So explain to me why the global temperature is rising? There has to be a catalyst, even if it is natural.

I'm waiting...sorta, not really cuz I'm about to go smoke some pineapple, blackjack and chrystal...

 

[Userpic666]

People are very prone to believe a lot of bullshit if they are uninformed. And I am talking about the people who think climate change is a fraud. Oh yea and our government blew up the world trade towers Its amazing how people can come to a conclusion and then go out and try to find information that verifies the conclusion they have already reached. Thats not science!

 

[KBRoaster]

I guess that's the thing userpic666, is that reason and logic is overlooked by rhetoric. Oh well.

 

[smokethechronic2010]

i imagine any website called climatechangefraud.com is going to be completely unbiased

care to explain why the plankton is disappearing? the polar ice caps vanishing? a chunk of greenland the size of manhattan just fell into the ocean? 20% of pakistan is underwater? wildfires rage across russia? record temps all over the states (despie solar irradiance at a record low) and the hottest year on record? why are these prolonged heat waves expected to be commonplace?



earth goes through cycles were in the middle of a change atm, granted us humans are contributing to it or speeding it up somewhat but i would say frankly its too late for us mortals to change the way things ar going today. but what we can do is adapt to the changes yes some species are gona suffer or wipe out completly but is that not natural selection and or evolution. things change the earth changes its constantly changing i dont think anythin we do is gona change anythin

 

[SouthernGanja]

earth goes through cycles were in the middle of a change atm, granted us humans are contributing to it or speeding it up somewhat but i would say frankly its too late for us mortals to change the way things ar going today. but what we can do is adapt to the changes yes some species are gona suffer or wipe out completly but is that not natural selection and or evolution. things change the earth changes its constantly changing i dont think anythin we do is gona change anythin

I believe that the planet goes thru cycles. (Axis wobble anyone?) Allthough this graph shows a dramatic spike when industrialization starts I don't see all these gurus explaining the Little Ice Age or anything else. A 2000 year graph is useless if you want to study something that is 4000000000 years old.

 

[NoDrama]

tell me which is more likely, tin foil hat man

The most likely scenario isn't even a guess , the facts that you are being lied to are right in your face. You see it over and over again, but you refuse to see past yourself and your own interest that everything going wrong MUST be caused by humans. You will let them lie to you day in and day out and every time you will convince yourself that this time is different. Don't let the facts speak, just deny it and hope it goes away.

 

[NoDrama]

i imagine any website called climatechangefraud.com is going to be completely unbiased

Your Logical Fallacy to attack the source won't work, I can find THOUSANDS of different sites that have the same basic story, heres one http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26475

Just because it wasn't on MSNBC doesn't make it false.

 

[Mindmelted]

An Inconvenient Truth: The Ice Cap Is Growing

Jim Robbins

Published on January 10, 2010


A report from the US National Snow and Ice Data Center in Colorado finds that Arctic summer sea ice has increased by 409,000 square miles, or 26 per cent, since 2007. But didn't we hear from the same Center that the North Pole was set to disappear by now? We all deserve apologies from the global warming fanatics who wanted to reshape the world in their image and called those who objected to their wild theories ignorant deniers. They were so convinced the world was ending and only they could save it, yet now they have been exposed as at best wildly idealistic and at worst frauds. They should have to do public penance for their hubris. I suggest they sit on blocks of melting ice and ponder their limitations. Either that or let the polar bears deal with them.

 

[UncleBuck]

Your Logical Fallacy to attack the source won't work, I can find THOUSANDS of different sites that have the same basic story, heres one http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/26475

Just because it wasn't on MSNBC doesn't make it false.

hmmmmm.....

you attempted to back up climatechangefraud.com with canadafeepress.com, whose top headlines manage to outfox even fox news....

Obama Apologizes for Stupid Americans’ Opposition to the Ground Zero Mosque

Durbin lucky he didn’t have Obamacare

Obama’s Ramadan White House Bow to Islam

The First Un-American President

hint: the big tip off should be the 'Palin for President' ads that permeate the page.

confirmation bias, anyone?

get back to me when your sources come from scientific websites, not opinion oriented websites that sponsor Palin for president.

as you said to me in your first reply, don't let the facts speak...just deny it and hope it all goes away. the fact is that you are being lied to are right in your face. You see it over and over again, but you refuse to see past yourself and your own interest. you will let them lie to you day in and day out.

the fact that you posted garbage from this opinion website in a fact based debate is further proof that you are a poor consumer of information

 

[Spanishfly]

i imagine any website called climatechangefraud.com is going to be completely unbiased

care to explain why the plankton is disappearing? the polar ice caps vanishing? a chunk of greenland the size of manhattan just fell into the ocean? 20% of pakistan is underwater? wildfires rage across russia? record temps all over the states (despie solar irradiance at a record low) and the hottest year on record? why are these prolonged heat waves expected to be commonplace?

one piece of bad science does not indict a mountain of good science. you have to simply ask which theory more likely: climate destabilization is a decades in the making conspiracy to force cap and trade on the american people (i guess you missed the part where dems recently dropped this legislation despite having their best chance at passing it right now) OR 99% of publishing and peer-reviewed climate researchers have a solid theory with plenty of evidence that explains the phenomenons we are currently witnessing.

tell me which is more likely, tin foil hat man

You have obviously been totally suckered in by the IPCC and Al Gore´s fiction.
Give it a couple of decades and when it is realised that the planet is NOT hotting up this load of fools will finally disappear.

And just tell me UncleBuck - what is the most important greenhouse gas??

 

[andar]

climate change is real. man caused climate change is not. they can talk about it all they want but there is no deadwrong proof that we are causing anything. yea its hot now but did you already forget the HUGE blizzard that just happened in the winter.... its pretty convenient to say its getting hot in the SUMMER.

 

[Mindmelted]

climate change is real. man caused climate change is not. they can talk about it all they want but there is no deadwrong proof that we are causing anything. yea its hot now but did you already forget the HUGE blizzard that just happened in the winter.... its pretty convenient to say its getting hot in the SUMMER.

And Florida had one of the Coldest winters EVER......

 

[UncleBuck]

climate destabilization

notice how i don't use the misnomer 'global warming' to describe the phenomenons we are seeing.

what makes everyone here so confident they know better than 99% of the scientists who publish peer-reviewed research on the subject? because they all agree on what is happening, and that we are definitely the fucking cause.

is it more likely that this 99% of scientists all wake up everyday and act in unison to falsely spread misinformation in an act of concerted conspiracy....OR.....is it more likely that those that have the most to lose in the switch to sustainable energies are funding bad science and misinformation in an attempt to confuse the issue, just the same way big tobacco did when it was discovered smoking leads to cancer?

i would say it is the latter, especially considering how oil companies have been caught red-handed doing so, and even team up with the same fake science groups that big tobacco leans on when denying the ill effects of smoking.

http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.html

but by all means, please explain to me how your credentials qualify you to a more expert authority on the subject than 99% of all scientists who publish papers on the subject. please show me the credentials. i beg you, please

 

[doc111]

notice how i don't use the misnomer 'global warming' to describe the phenomenons we are seeing.

what makes everyone here so confident they know better than 99% of the scientists who publish peer-reviewed research on the subject? because they all agree on what is happening, and that we are definitely the fucking cause.

is it more likely that this 99% of scientists all wake up everyday and act in unison to falsely spread misinformation in an act of concerted conspiracy....OR.....is it more likely that those that have the most to lose in the switch to sustainable energies are funding bad science and misinformation in an attempt to confuse the issue, just the same way big tobacco did when it was discovered smoking leads to cancer?

i would say it is the latter, especially considering how oil companies have been caught red-handed doing so, and even team up with the same fake science groups that big tobacco leans on when denying the ill effects of smoking.

http://www.ucsusa.org/news/press_release/ExxonMobil-GlobalWarming-tobacco.html

but by all means, please explain to me how your credentials qualify you to a more expert authority on the subject than 99% of all scientists who publish papers on the subject. please show me the credentials. i beg you, please

This area of science is barely out of the womb. This issue is so politically divided it's hard to know who to trust. Are scientists intentionally fudging the data? If so, why? Who stands to gain the most, who stands to lose? It all depends which side of the political spectrum you find yourself on I suppose. We are making the transition to a more sustainable and environmentally friendly way of life whether we like it or not. Necessity is the mother of invention and this is no different. We try to think we are seperate from nature but are learning more and more that we are interconnected and MUST act in a more environmentally resonsible manner if we are to advance our species. Most people I talk to these days are very pessimistic about the future of humanity. There is a palpable sense of impending doom. Perhaps it's the economy. Maybe it's all the bad news we are force fed thanks to our *wonderfully responsible and objective mainstream media outlets (*sarcasm alert!). Who knows what tricks mother nature has for dealing with this potential threat?

 

[andar]

what makes everyone here so confident they know better than 99% of the scientists who publish peer-reviewed research on the subject? because they all agree on what is happening, and that we are definitely the fucking cause.

they can publish all the research they want. but that research does not conclude that we definately are causing this. if it did all the scientists would agree on it but they dont. where is your source that 99 percent of all scientist believe this bullshit. im sorry but the earth is changing and is always has and always will. ice ages global warming . it comes and goes.

 

[andar]

ive been searching for a long time and i still cant find shit that proves that global warming is caused by us.

 

[Balzac89]

Anyone hear about the glacier in greenland that had 25 percent of its mass break off and that piece if four time the size of Manhattan.