DST
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ok, I am guessing they originate from somewhere in North East France/Germany (Alsace region)...
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TrynaGroSumShyt
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yes indeed the Deutscher Schäferhund, is a german specific breed, best lines coming from germany and belgium i believe
jigfresh
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I do know what you mean by keeping a pup 'cramped' in an apartment... but like someone once pointed out a dog would much prefer an apartment with loving owners over the small cage at the pound, with only death to look forward to. Much better and beyond fair. Don't let space keep you from saving a dogs life.
DST
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Very good point Jig, never really thought about it like that.....something to think about! However, the second part of my statement is a stumbling block however, haha
Hayduke
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Nice! Schutzhund again tomorrow night!
The best dogs.
The Alsatian name was to combat anti-German sentiment mainly in the US after the Wars (and I suppose in Western Europe??)...they just changed their name!!...And stopped following the breed standard...the Americans are f'ing up the GSD...NO American line dog can do police work...not that all should, but they were bred as a working dog to do specific jobs, and running in a show ring really is not one of them!
Nice looking dog pics!
here is my boy a few weeks ago at 5 months
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1badmasonman
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Ahhh dogs are great D. they just need alot of exercise and attention like all things in life. I say go for it. Good to have as a hiking partner. 1bmm
DST
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He looks lovely Hayduke, I really think if I was getting a dog that an Alsatian would be one of my choices, I have always thought they were pretty uber dogs!!! Although I must admit I did rather like the Boxer dog that my brother in law got...damn all this talk got me thinking and pondering now.......Nice! Schutzhund again tomorrow night!
The best dogs.
The Alsatian name was to combat anti-German sentiment mainly in the US after the Wars (and I suppose in Western Europe??)...they just changed their name!!...And stopped following the breed standard...the Americans are f'ing up the GSD...NO American line dog can do police work...not that all should, but they were bred as a working dog to do specific jobs, and running in a show ring really is not one of them!
Nice looking dog pics!
here is my boy a few weeks ago at 5 months
Mmmmmn, perhaps this will keep the wifes mind of having kids...not that she is desperate for that, she's just been handed another promotion at work which is going to take up even more of her time....perhaps I should get a dog for the companionship then, haha!!!
TrynaGroSumShyt
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i love boxers just as much as all bully breeds @ D
@Duke.. i can tell a good worker when i see one, even being so young he looks like a prospect/
@Duke.. i can tell a good worker when i see one, even being so young he looks like a prospect/
DST
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So I mentioned it to the wife this morning about getting a dog and she seemed at first to think it would be a shame but then it only took her a few seconds of seeing that I was interested to become quite positive about it. Anyway, we shall see...I was looking and one place that had Alsatian pups for €450...what sort of price is normal (bearing in mind i don't know the industry and would be buying at a retail price I guess.)
TrynaGroSumShyt
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that would be normal for a well bred dog, i dont kno if they test GSD's for temperment but if they do that should be included.
but if u dont want a big gsd, an apbt would be a great companion, they are good for apt living, as long as they get a walk a few times a day, if that much. plus, there is some really good lines out of europe makin some nice litter. in any situation, u need to match your energy with the pup, if u a lazy guy.. get the lil puppy thats chillin in the corner and vice versa.
but if u dont want a big gsd, an apbt would be a great companion, they are good for apt living, as long as they get a walk a few times a day, if that much. plus, there is some really good lines out of europe makin some nice litter. in any situation, u need to match your energy with the pup, if u a lazy guy.. get the lil puppy thats chillin in the corner and vice versa.
DST
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What's an apbt?
My wife wouldn't go for a little puppy type dog, she's into real dogs, haha.
TrynaGroSumShyt
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an apbt is a pit bull, u may have more staffordshire terrier or stafforshire bull terries in your local area.. but genetically there the same.. always pick a respected trust-able breeder and do some research..
this is shutzhund, i love sch, i like tracking as well but my current situation wont allow it.
[video=youtube;kBNieFJ8Kkc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBNieFJ8Kkc&feature=related[/video]
this is shutzhund, i love sch, i like tracking as well but my current situation wont allow it.
[video=youtube;kBNieFJ8Kkc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kBNieFJ8Kkc&feature=related[/video]
DST
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What, a dog that rescues things, I would have one in a minute, lol....seriously, I think if I was to get a dog I would prefer to buy a puppy to be honest. I wouldn't even know where to start as far as rescue centres in NL are concerned. I am sure it's something they have though. Not sure my wife would want that.
I think if we are buying it would be either an alsatian or a sheep dog (not sure which type, just know my wife had one and she loved that dog, it was called Golem
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TrynaGroSumShyt
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Golem, sounds like a name for a very large dog.. i wouldnt get a older rescue dog, u may never know what fears, or rtypes of anxiety.. what makes em snap. plus, nothing like a cuddly puppy.. my grandparents had a sheepdog named buddy, an english sheepdog.
las fingerez
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nice coment bro
i had a staffy in a bed sit but in my credit i used 2 walk her for miles. had 2 give her to my sister coz of my job, it was one of the hardest descisions i've made in my life. i love dogs there so loyal, unlike most of the people in my area lol
TrynaGroSumShyt
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WHUTUP D?
i was wondering.. who were the D-kush's parents.. she's pretty funky man, also Dazey is a beast, any info..?
i was wondering.. who were the D-kush's parents.. she's pretty funky man, also Dazey is a beast, any info..?
Hayduke
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Thank you!
Thanks bro...I already have a guy who, if my dogs hips are good, wants him for stud...his pedigree is amazing. Although I studied up and understood most of the abbreviations used on pedigrees...but I did not know what 2X BSP, or CH WUSV, or CH FCI, CH Belga, 8*UM CR meant...basically German, Belgian, Czech championships in Schutzhund, IPO and the Czech equivalent...I lucked into at least a ridiculous pedigree ($1000USD)...but we'll see!!! (It's time to go do our evening training...I use verbal markers for obedience, and we through the ball and play tug)
The video has elements of schutzhund, but it looks like the club trains in some ring sport...I think it is French Ring with the bite suits and agility props...maybe some personal protection also...Schutzhund has very formal exercises that do not deviate. Someday I would love to do Mondio Ring, but nothing in my area.
DST...I do not know about Europe, but in the US, GSD's are available from people who just wanted a litter for half the price of a reputable breeder but most end up breeding in bad traits like bad hips and bad nerves. Look for a reputable breeder and learn about pedigrees a bit so you know what kind of dog you are getting. At least some working lines in the pedigree might overcome some of the problems with the show lines and make a good pet...If you get a crazy working line dog of any breed, just know what you are getting yourself into...most do not do well with free roam of the house as they just have too much drive and will F up everything you own for fun if you do not have eyes on them...dog crates are the norm, and I have found to be, although different, to be no problem at all for me or the dog. Zero accidents. Nothing (that did not get pulled into the crate!) destroyed. The cat is still (somewhat to my chagrin) still among the living...zero lives lost
But if you get a working line GSD, just know that a high drive pup is at least half alligator and at times you might think part demon...they genetically like to "mouth"...outside of dog circles this means...bite the sh!t out of you!!!
Do you know about Dutch Shepherds?? Many of the cops in the US, if they do not use Belgian Malinois, import Dutchies trained in KNPV...they are slightly smaller shepherds that are brindle coated.
Oh and Tryna, part of schutzhunds original purpose was a temperament test, and you still must obtain a "BH" which is the whole Obedience routine of a sch1 with healing off lead through a group of people + a traffic test, joggers or rollerbladers passing and overtaking and in groups...then the Sch1,2 and 3 have a long down off lead with the handler 30 yards off while another team does their obedience...along with gunshots!
In Germany dogs are not certified for breeding without a Sch1 and proper structure
Taking your dog for a walk is a great excuse for being/hiking/gardening in odd places...plus the dog will let you know if someone is near.
TrynaGroSumShyt
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that would make a helluva a pedigree to stud out, treat it just like herb and only breed to the best! yes that was french ring, and most of the dogs are personal protection dogs.
Hulk Nugs
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Pup is the way to go but they are going to need a big brother unless you plan on buying another pup in a year lmao
so i would buy the pup you want then go check out the pound and get a old boy with few years left to go and treat him right his last years, just like any of us would want.
As for dogs are just for personal protection fuk that i would die for my dog, they piss me off but they are my first kids animal or not they are family to me.
so i would buy the pup you want then go check out the pound and get a old boy with few years left to go and treat him right his last years, just like any of us would want.
As for dogs are just for personal protection fuk that i would die for my dog, they piss me off but they are my first kids animal or not they are family to me.