NEW Closet Set Up for L.E.D. Stealth Grow

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Serapis

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potpimp said:
Actually a sphere encloses the most volume of any shape, with the least about of surface exposure. But that's not the point with pots. I had not read Ed's comment about the square pots; it just made sense to me. Thanks for the info Serapis; I'll be ordering some of those.
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I just purchased 8 of the 10.25" x 10.25" x 10.25" (3 gallon) square pots for my scrog grows. I'm thinking one pot per 2' square. I can have 4 scrogging and 4 vegging... I may end up having to get a tent if my cloning program is successful. I have a spare 10' x 10' room in my house and can't seem to get it rented to a roommate, so maybe I need to do something else with it? :)
 
BuddGreen

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You know your set-up is the shit when you get the haters running every lip in their mouth!!! Keep up the great work.
 
Serapis

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To anybody following along that was interested in deep square pots, BGH has lowered the price to $1.29 now and have added other sizes. They now have a 10" square pot 10.25" deep for only $3.69 a pot. these pots are made of a sturdy thick plastic and the edges are turned, which means you can use paper clips or small bungee hooks on the outside edge for those of you that use LST or bending techniques. The 10" sq pot is equivalent to a 3 gallon round pot. With a depth of 10.25", it is ideal for mature root balls.

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AudiXo

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What are the Watts per led panel you have on the wall? I tried some 50Watt panels and didn't get good results from them and had to take them out.
 
Serapis

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The wall panels are 16w each. Probably a wasted purchase, however LED lights are very directional and don't get reflection, so I wanted some light coming in from the side of the canopy. Combined they are 112W on the walls and 240W overhead.
 
Commander Rainbow Veins

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nice grow op.
love to see leds put up
im going to be looking forward to seeing your girls at there fullest.

o also have you thought about making a worm bin its cheap, simple and easy ;D
 
WWShadow

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were you able to determine what your starting height for the leds should have been? I still can't believe they burned your plants... I'm still trying to talk my wife into the investment for at least 1 of the big ones. Ballsy grow definitely & looking good too!
 
Serapis

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WWShadow said:
were you able to determine what your starting height for the leds should have been? I still can't believe they burned your plants... I'm still trying to talk my wife into the investment for at least 1 of the big ones. Ballsy grow definitely & looking good too!
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12" minimum for younger plants. Once they harden to the light and the stems begin to thicken, you can bring the light in at around 6-8", just make sure you have fans moving the air. While the LEDs throw off little heat, they can be intense and radiate the leaves, essentially cooking them. Seedlings should remain under Flouros for at least 14 days and only be exposed to LEDS several hours at a time per day for the first few days. This is just my experience, mileage may vary.

The funny thing was, HTG Supply NEVER advised about the proper height of provided any feedback about my complaints. For a company that claims to have extensively researched LED grow lights, I call bull shit. Their REP stated my soil burned the plants. Funny how it didn't the first 2 weeks, but did after 2 hours under the new LEDS.

Next time you read that something was "extensively" tested, ask to see proof. I believe HTG's auction listings are full of shit. They compare to HID which is impossible to do as the lights are using different wavelengths. They also claim their lights are comparable to a 600w hid or a 1kw hid without explaining how they determine that. They also couldn't answer what degrees the led diodes were....

While i like these lights, I feel that the advertising was all hype and BS to persuade people to make uninformed purchases. all HTG and ask about the LED lighting. They haven't a clue.
 
potpimp

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"Extensive testing" = Plug in, yep it's working, unplug, LOL. Sad to say this biz is soooooooo infested with snake oil salesmen. Not saying that a lot of the products are not good, just that the hype gets knee deep sometimes, especially with companies like Advanced Nutrients.
 
luckyskindaguy

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Serapis said:
12" minimum for younger plants. Once they harden to the light and the stems begin to thicken, you can bring the light in at around 6-8", just make sure you have fans moving the air. While the LEDs throw off little heat, they can be intense and radiate the leaves, essentially cooking them. Seedlings should remain under Flouros for at least 14 days and only be exposed to LEDS several hours at a time per day for the first few days. This is just my experience, mileage may vary.

The funny thing was, HTG Supply NEVER advised about the proper height of provided any feedback about my complaints. For a company that claims to have extensively researched LED grow lights, I call bull shit. Their REP stated my soil burned the plants. Funny how it didn't the first 2 weeks, but did after 2 hours under the new LEDS.

Next time you read that something was "extensively" tested, ask to see proof. I believe HTG's auction listings are full of shit. They compare to HID which is impossible to do as the lights are using different wavelengths. They also claim their lights are comparable to a 600w hid or a 1kw hid without explaining how they determine that. They also couldn't answer what degrees the led diodes were....

While i like these lights, I feel that the advertising was all hype and BS to persuade people to make uninformed purchases. all HTG and ask about the LED lighting. They haven't a clue.
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That is why I didn't jump head first into LED's myself. Too many statements by companies all saying the same thing. They can't all have "the best". One thing that has not changed about the LED vs. HPS, you can run them in smaller spaces with less venting if any than HPS. Looking at my cab now, I know I could never run an HPS in this cab unless I flower 6" plants! You can't think that is gonna beat an 18" plant flowered with LED! LOL, well some people on this site might ;)

Hope things are well with your ladies Serapis! I'm looking forward to seeing how yours flower :) I just started a couple more bagseeds a couple days ago. Found some in a bag of bud that had purple strain in it. I'm hoping to get some cool looking plants out of it :D
 
zingzang

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Thanks for the thread, I've been following it for a couple of weeks now.
You have inspired me to do an LED grow of my own.

I went with a Lumigrow ES 250 and it has knobs to adjust the power of the light
Most of mine are still seedlings, so I have my LED fixture turned down a bit to be safe.
(I only had my seedlings under the florescent light for a few days)

Thanks for growing where no man has gone before
and leading the way and all that
 
Serapis

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luckyskindaguy said:
That is why I didn't jump head first into LED's myself. Too many statements by companies all saying the same thing. They can't all have "the best". One thing that has not changed about the LED vs. HPS, you can run them in smaller spaces with less venting if any than HPS. Looking at my cab now, I know I could never run an HPS in this cab unless I flower 6" plants! You can't think that is gonna beat an 18" plant flowered with LED! LOL, well some people on this site might ;)

Hope things are well with your ladies Serapis! I'm looking forward to seeing how yours flower :) I just started a couple more bagseeds a couple days ago. Found some in a bag of bud that had purple strain in it. I'm hoping to get some cool looking plants out of it :D
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If you post a grow thread or journal, I'll follow!!

zingzang said:
Thanks for the thread, I've been following it for a couple of weeks now.
You have inspired me to do an LED grow of my own.

I went with a Lumigrow ES 250 and it has knobs to adjust the power of the light
Most of mine are still seedlings, so I have my LED fixture turned down a bit to be safe.
(I only had my seedlings under the florescent light for a few days)

Thanks for growing where no man has gone before
and leading the way and all that
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They may some of the best LED lights on the market! Be careful with your babies. LEDs can burn em as you know if you followed this thread. It's amazing a salesman at HTG had no idea that was possible. He was blaming everything from the HOT soil to my water PH.... It was painfully clear that 2 hours under these lights at 8" did the damage.

I know have both LED overheads and all wall panels running and even with my fans and exhaust going, I can't get temps below 90 w/o opening closet door.

I may have to rethink my venting strategy....
 
luckyskindaguy

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Right now I just have the seeds in my second grow of my sig. I may start another journal once they start showing their genetics :)
 
dreamwalk

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I'm a newbie to the forums and just went through the entire thread. It's intriguing, but I'm not able to spend that kind of money on a grow op. I have started a few seeds for germination, but it'll just be a small op for just myself.
 
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