Ganjas 1st Grow...kinda????2300watt sour diesel,white widow

dudeoflife

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And I'll guarantee you this much: You go ahead and flush, without doing anything about the 2000 watts looming a foot away from those plants like they are, things will get worse. Flooding your medium with little to no nutrients can cause a huge drop in osmosis in high heat conditions. This means that the curling will get worse due to moisture stress.

Don't take your plant to the ER over a hangnail.
 

ganjaluva2009

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And I'll guarantee you this much: You go ahead and flush, without doing anything about the 2000 watts looming a foot away from those plants like they are, things will get worse. Flooding your medium with little to no nutrients can cause a huge drop in osmosis in high heat conditions. This means that the curling will get worse due to moisture stress.

Don't take your plant to the ER over a hangnail.
Ah ok. i understand. Im overeacting is what ur sayin. Its not such a big deal? Is this what ur saying?
And i dont know if it makes a difference, but i have 2 400w not 2 1000w. just sayin. The original title was a typo and i dont know how to edit it, it was supposed to read 1200 watts, And i ended up not using my third light because i couldnt get an even light cover with three, it was easier with just two or if i added 4.
 

ganjaluva2009

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And I'll guarantee you this much: You go ahead and flush, without doing anything about the 2000 watts looming a foot away from those plants like they are, things will get worse. Flooding your medium with little to no nutrients can cause a huge drop in osmosis in high heat conditions. This means that the curling will get worse due to moisture stress.

Don't take your plant to the ER over a hangnail.
Just so u know, i took ur advice and didnt flush, raised the lights and will continue as normal to see what happens. Thanks for all this help dude
 

gudkarma

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you been given some excellent advice home boy.

too, those plants do look sick... nay... SIC!

very nice.

do you have a 420 scope?

bro, go with a foliar application of epsom. cheap & easy & fast acting (foliar).

you should see these clones i popped into flower tonight, PHAT as hell.

dwc + low(er) ppm's = excellent results
growth rate is sick.

flushing is good to do on it's own.
imo, if you want to treat for mag defficiency do that... wait 3 to 5 days ...then flush.

start feeding just ph'd balanced h2o

i treated my girls with a cal-mag (5ml to a full spray bottle) foliar tonight.
i have epsom in the cabinet, but went with a hydro product instead.

i had enough faith in dudeoflife's earlier assessment(s) i went with it.
researched it first. same conclusion as his.

was working the high p leading to zinc lockout angle, & dropping ppm's really helped overall appearance there.

cal-mag, ganja, every jedi has it in his/her soil & hydro tool kit.

too, ganja, you're reaching the point where adding carbs to the soil is good.
i'm a few weeks behind you, but i am on the carb tip ...especially after innoculating my soil with benny bacteria.

black strap molassas is on my menu for this week.
get yourself some too, ganja.
1 tblspn per gallon of ph.d water.
cheap & easy & it works.

was thinking about a bontanicare "sweet" product (they have some kinda flavor name, grape) just for the sugars.
any thoughts gentlemen?

hate to hijack & all :-)
 

ganjaluva2009

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some excellent advice right here.

flushing is good to do on it's own.
imo, if you want to treat for mag defficiency do that... wait 3 to 5 days ...then flush.

i treated my girls with cal-mag (5ml to a full spray bottle) foliar tonight.
i have epsom in the cabinet, but went with a hydro product instead.

cal-mag, ganja, every jedi has it in his/her tool kit.

too, ganja, your reaching the point where adding carbs to the soil is good.
i'm a few weeks behind you, but i am on the carb tip especially after innoculating my soil with benny bacteria.

black strap molassas is on my menu for this week. get yourself some too, ganja. 1 tblspn per gallon of ph.d water.

was thinking about a bontanicare "sweet" product (they have some kinda flavor name, grape) just for the sugars.
any thoughts gentlemen?

hate to hijack & all :-)
What up kharma. Just as i told the Dude, i held off on the flushing, I will foliar feed with the epson salt tonight, as i dont have any cal/mag at the moment, but believe me, come monday, i will. I Do have the molasses and am planning on starting that this week. I also have the botanicare sweet stuff. I use it. Dont really know if it makes that much of a diff. but doesnt do harm, so...And kharm, only U can hijack my threads,as u are the master..lol...Anyway, u guys give some kick ass advice man. Dont know what id do without yas
 

ganjaluva2009

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Just throwing it out there, this grow is done in october and ill be switching my flowering room to all hydro, no more soil accept for the mothers, and i will be adding the 2 1000w Hps then. Thats why i cant have this grow flop.
 

dudeoflife

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If you raised the lights like you said you did, you can leave the lights on.

Plain old h20 will help from the heat stress. Maybe the foliar application of MG, however, will green em in a little more.
 

ganjaluva2009

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If you raised the lights like you said you did, you can leave the lights on.

Plain old h20 will help from the heat stress. Maybe the foliar application of MG, however, will green em in a little more.
Ok cool. Thank Dude. I think im just going to play it safe and foliar feed them tomorow right before they turn off. Thanks for all the advice...stay tuned..Ganja
 

gudkarma

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to switch everything over to (r)dwc is my goal too.

i run 6 buckets now & it can be a bunch of work... you have to approach it like "mandatory routine" or you're bound to get lazy... which creates problems.

i will always keep 20 clone-offs going in soil (1 gal planters) just for backup nugz.
dirt farming does have its advantages.

as confident as i am with hydro, i have a (an irrational) hard time with a 100% commitment.

**

when lights are on ==> lights stay on

i have glass covers & vented hoods for my 600w chumpies... not sure how that's gonna work with the light mover just yet.

still, i take the plants out of the cabinet, spray down, and put back.

recently harvested two plants to make room in the flower cabinet.
...been getting stooooopid high for a few days :-)

ganja, i read those comments about your girl "taking or leaving" your hobby. gotta love it!

if i could only tell you my two year long, "how i convinced my wife (aka : the mini glen beck) this is important to me" , story.

plants look good, bro.
for the fanatics, let's get some bud close ups :-)

~gudkarma
 

ganjaluva2009

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to switch everything over to (r)dwc is my goal too.

i run 6 buckets now & it can be a bunch of work... you have to approach it like "mandatory routine" or you're bound to get lazy... which creates problems.

i will always keep 20 clone-offs going in soil (1 gal planters) just for backup nugz.
dirt farming does have its advantages.

as confident as i am with hydro, i have a (an irrational) hard time with a 100% commitment.

**

when lights are on ==> lights stay on

i have glass covers & vented hoods for my 600w chumpies... not sure how that's gonna work with the light mover just yet.

still, i take the plants out of the cabinet, spray down, and put back.

recently harvested two plants to make room in the flower cabinet.
...been getting stooooopid high for a few days :-)

ganja, i read those comments about your girl "taking or leaving" your hobby. gotta love it!

if i could only tell you my two year long, "how i convinced my wife (aka : the mini glen beck) this is important to me" , story.

plants look good, bro.
for the fanatics, let's get some bud close ups :-)

~gudkarma
Yeah bro, i lucked out with my chick. She my rock and really supports whatever i wanna do. Thats why ima marry her one day. Anyway back to manly things, i hear ya on the 100% commitment, i was def going to keep some soil rocking my self. I did say 100% though i think, but it not exactlly what i meant. Ive had some good nugs to bro, ur gonna love the bubblegum kush. I know i do. Awesome mind high. Any way, thats one of the directions im pointing in. The buckets im talking about..I was looking at a 12 bucket set..would they be hard to DIY? I will have some bud shots tonight for all the freaky dudes like myself. So ill talk to everybody tonight....Peace fellas...Ganja
 

rastadred22

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I don't really need new pics.

Picture #1 taken on 9-9 says it all.

There is no glass in either of the 1000 watters. The curling is heat stress.

No need to flush. Raise the lights for a quick fix. Get glass & ventilate lights directly ASAP.


look at those leaves look at the rust stops im finding it hard to understand how or y u think thats heat stress....if it was then it wouldnt be just in the fan leaves...they wouldnt yellow like that in only the lower fan leaves if i t was heat stress...imop id leave those lights alone! they havent givin u problems this whole time why would it all of a sudden do it now? idk bout just raising the lights and sayin oh ok there perfectly fine...but then again thats just imo
 

dudeoflife

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look at those leaves look at the rust stops im finding it hard to understand how or y u think thats heat stress....if it was then it wouldnt be just in the fan leaves...they wouldnt yellow like that in only the lower fan leaves if i t was heat stress...imop id leave those lights alone! they havent givin u problems this whole time why would it all of a sudden do it now? idk bout just raising the lights and sayin oh ok there perfectly fine...but then again thats just imo
Hey Rasta- you are correct in your assumption. The lower leaves are NOT dying from the heat stress. Only the top leaves are indicating the stress. However, taking care of the heat is the first step in addressing this series of minor probs. First step: improve the conditions. He's not off the hook yet!


Anyway, ganja, today's a new day. I am assuming you are gonna slap some glass on those babies tonight? Today is gonna be nothing but damage control/monitoring while those pots lighten up a bit, brah.

When was the last time you've watered/ fed those suckers, anyway? We want those pots to get real real light before you proceed with the next step.....
 

ganjaluva2009

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Hey Rasta- you are correct in your assumption. The lower leaves are NOT dying from the heat stress. Only the top leaves are indicating the stress. However, taking care of the heat is the first step in addressing this series of minor probs. First step: improve the conditions. He's not off the hook yet!


Anyway, ganja, today's a new day. I am assuming you are gonna slap some glass on those babies tonight? Today is gonna be nothing but damage control/monitoring while those pots lighten up a bit, brah.

When was the last time you've watered/ fed those suckers, anyway? We want those pots to get real real light before you proceed with the next step.....
Whats up Dude. Anyway, yes today is a new day and a better day mentally for me..lol. Anyway, i had glass cut at lowes today, it was only 12$ a piece which i thought was very cheap, but anyway i didnt get any hard wear to mount them to my lights, so i will have the glass on tomorow. But believe me, i have the lights up and away and i dont think heat is a problem whatsoever now. And the last time i watered was friday, so they are still pretty wet, but it usaully take about 4 to 5 days for my plants to dry out to where they are very light. So im just practicing up on my patience and just waiting
 

rastadred22

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yup just wait and watch at this point and u will be able to read them...in my display pic thats me sitting in the room with both vege and flowering tents open...theres 7trees in the left tent underneith a 1000watt hps with no hood or glass....in the right tent there is 1000watt mh with no hood and glass...and they are about a 1 1/2ft away from them and are doing perfectly fine and every tree harvested has been under that setup with no problems...other than heat obviously but my mother inlaw is stubborn and wont get cooling tubes or a hood with an exhaust...o well but they work perfectly fine!
 

ganjaluva2009

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What up guys?Just took a couple pics, thought id post to show u guys. Last night i foliar fed them with epson salt mixed at 1/2 tsp per gallon. Seemed to like it. Didnt harm them. I also raised my lights, but got glass today to put in them, so ill have that in them tomorow and i can bring them back down. I have them at about 18" over my plants. So enjoy adn let me know what u guys think?
 

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dudeoflife

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Looking great, overall!

Just remember that you're basically there. These changes you are making are only minor tweaks. A change from good, to better, to best!
 

ganjaluva2009

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Looking great, overall!

Just remember that you're basically there. These changes you are making are only minor tweaks. A change from good, to better, to best!
correct. Thats exactly right. Im dialing them in right now. Nothing major..Little this, a little of that and waalaaa...ur on ur way to some primo :joint:,which makes me feel like this:blsmoke:and i always like ending my nights with a lil:hump:.Hey come to think of it, thats my life in a nutshell...lol...peace..Ganja
 
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