How Do You Tell Someone God Won't Heal Them?

[rene112388]

This thread is exactly as the title states its been on my mind so I thought I'd see what other think.. So one of my residents is very religous her husband and son ministers and she a bible school teacher she is 95 and has such faith in this god her sister who is 88 also firm believer however I am not I don't really believe in god..well they expressed that the sister had pretty much lost her eyes sight and she went before the church and asked to be healed and she believed she would awake with her sight and and still believes this to be so my question how do I tell her she is putting faith in something that will never happen? I almost feel bad wanting to tell her so but it bothers me more how someone so inteligent truly believes this and I feel she needs a bit of reality as it can damage her later on if she continues to be so extreme with her faith shall I say ok well enough rambles what do you guys think keep my mouth shut and let her faith crash around her or do it myself?

 

[tip top toker]

Keep you mouth shut. She'll work it out soon enough as she wakes up well, blind as a bat

 

[bigv1976]

Perception is reality dear rene and it is not your place to try to change a 95 year old lady's beliefs. Why is this so dear to you?

 

[lime73]

This thread is exactly as the title states its been on my mind so I thought I'd see what other think.. So one of my residents is very religous her husband and son ministers and she a bible school teacher she is 95 and has such faith in this god her sister who is 88 also firm believer however I am not I don't really believe in god..well they expressed that the sister had pretty much lost her eyes sight and she went before the church and asked to be healed and she believed she would awake with her sight and and still believes this to be so my question how do I tell her she is putting faith in something that will never happen? I almost feel bad wanting to tell her so but it bothers me more how someone so inteligent truly believes this and I feel she needs a bit of reality as it can damage her later on if she continues to be so extreme with her faith shall I say ok well enough rambles what do you guys think keep my mouth shut and let her faith crash around her or do it myself?

Why would not say that to her especially @ that age...she has her faith and that is all that matters! Not what you think....if you do not believe in God than you cannot tell her to not believe in something she believes in and who said God isn't real...seriously??? You have no faith and that is your choice just don't say it!!!

Keep it to yourself! Just my opinion! Not trying to be rude either just my thought. Peace.

 

[stelthy]

I think what you say is true.. religion is all BS but to try n denied her what little she has at this age is neither smart nor fair, let her believe she will get well .. its always good to have hope, without it you may as well just give up. I don't believe in god it seems like a waste of time but if its a glimmer of hope for an old lady who are we to deni her the belief she may get better - STELTHY

 

[rene112388]

I don't wish to tell her not to believe nor to press my beliefs upon her it bothers me because these women give me more repsect and love that I have even had in my life I don't even know the woman who is losing her sight I just her sisters caregiver but we speak on the phone I care about all people and every week she brings it up pressing me to express my views and normally I don't without a care what people think but I'm guess I'm conflicted I don't want to share my views though I know she will respect them but each day she awakes in the same condition she becomes more depressed and I want to tell her even if there is a god he doesn't go around fixing that stuff guess I want to save her from losing all her faith as said above its all she has and that's her perogative I am not here in this world to judge

 

[Ledfun]

At almost 58 years old, I've found that deeply religious people seldom change their minds about their faith, regardless of "reality".

They make their reality fit their beliefs. Regardless of what happens, they will honestly think that their God has deemed it appropriate for "his" own reasons, and who are they to question his decisions?

Nothing you say to this women will alter her beliefs. She will tell you that she prays for her eyesight to be restored, but if her God feels she should not regain it, then she will trust in her God's decision and ask in prayer to her God for him to guide her into understanding his will.

She's made it to 95 years old without your help. If you do the same, and live to 95, you'll understand how silly it is for someone so much more younger to try to advise someone her age is.

The only thing you'll do if you try to talk her beliefs down is make her think less of you. I would advise you strongly to leave it alone and keep your beliefs to yourself in regard to her.

Peace.

 

[rene112388]

Some of you misunderstand I don't wish to change her beliefs and the one who it effects is the 88 i simple don't lie I am bluntly honest and she wants my honest opinion the confliction derives from the fact that I don't feel good lying to her about my views I usually say things like we can never be certain what life will bring I feel like maybe telling her if her god doesn't will it to be fixed she is should take it as a gift as according to what is written this god is supposed to have a plan guess I'm just running out of rteassurance for her as I believe different anyways please keep this thread going curious to see all the view once again I will say I'm not out to change view but for insight on how to handle this thank you all

 

[green.budz]

bring them to any cemetary ... there full of thoose "god" couldnt fix .

 

[green.budz]

if i were her id get a mmj card and go out with a bang .

 

[lime73]

if i were her id get a mmj card and go out with a bang .

Why all the god talk ,change the topic, talk about things in her life that makes her smile ,cuz you ain't havin fun talking about something you don't believe in so talk about something else to her!!!! Try to make her smile!!!

 

[napa23]

if i were her id get a mmj card and go out with a bang .

haha yeah tell her that. I understand though, my girlfriend is pretty religious and she just keeps asking if I believe in God and yadayada. Of course I say I do but I don't really. Hell, I even go to church with her sometimes just because I find it interesting. You're not trying to change her beliefs but when someone just keeps asking and it's someone you care about, you're confused as to what you should say. I understand you dude. Just entertain her, you lose nothing by doing it.

 

[fdd2blk]

what if she were to wake up able to see?

it's happened.

 

[Ledfun]

bring them to any cemetary ... there full of those "god" couldn't fix .

I have many friends who are deeply religious. Their answer to your comment would be; "God had other plans for them and decided to bring them into heaven to make those plans happen". They see no "bad" in death...just a transition from one life to another. Only people who see death as a final thing are afraid of it. Even some of them are no longer afraid of it. I'm one of them.

I couldn't care less. I'm going to have as much fun as I can during my remaining time. If "they" are right and I continue in another life, great. If not, oh well, I gave this one everything I could to have fun.

 

[napa23]

I have many friends who are deeply religious. Their answer to your comment would be; "God had other plans for them and decided to bring them into heaven to make those plans happen". They see no "bad" in death...just a transition from one life to another. Only people who see death as a final thing are afraid of it. Even some of them are no longer afraid of it. I'm one of them.

I couldn't care less. I'm going to have as much fun as I can during my remaining time. If "they" are right and I continue in another life, great. If not, oh well, I gave this one everything I could to have fun.

This is exactly how i feel.

 

[undertheice]

what right do any of us have to infringe on the fantasies of others? we all are constantly telling ourselves and others sweet little lies to make the vagaries of life a bit more bearable. they do no harm for the most part and often help us through difficult transitions. the truth is usually a brutal thing and knowing it does us so little good, many of us would live our lives in despair if it wasn't for our small delusions. even the sort of faith that lead to such potentially fatal practices as snake handling or refusing medical treatment is a matter of personal choice that effects no one else and matters of personal choice should be treated with equal respect, no matter how insane they may seem to us.

 

[rene112388]

First I'm must say I do try to change the subject humor makes everyone feel better I believe I may request today when she calls that we don't discuss it its has become the first thing she speaks about I wish to be conforting for this woman yet just don't know how when she is seeking confort from me that I don't believe in and fdd you make a good point if she wakes up and can see well I suppose I can enjoy that with her till then ill continue to look for other ways of reassurance

 

[Mr.KushMan]

If she did wake up able to see would it guide you to rethink you beliefs?

I say belief but maybe acceptance is a more fitting word.

Peace

 

[rene112388]

If she did wake up able to see would it guide you to rethink you beliefs?

I say belief but maybe acceptance is a more fitting word.

Peace

I have to say acceptance may fit as I said call me a hypocrite as I said I still pray to a god I don't necessarily believe in I look at things logically and I figure that the big bang theory seems more probable than a unknown enity being the creator because what created this god? Pray on occastion as what if I am wrong? Everytime I think of the subject I reflect upon my beliefs I feel religion has. Some good basis' on how we should live life...I am a goody two-shoes I toe the line as much as possible in my life I have learned never to judge as weather created by god or spontaniously we are not here to judge others I try to be kind and compasionate to all what it all boils down to is we don't know about creations true happening what I do know is I will be the best me I can be and when I die if I am wrong about my beliefs all I can do is admit my fault tonight the woman called and we avoided the conversation all laughs wonderful woman my resident did bring it up and though her life was devoted to the church she feels her sister shouldn't ask for anything more just accept her mortality that god can't fix us all I got to express my views about the subject but did not say my beliefs this 95 year old woman said she will be telling her sister god will not be healing you as there are so many in need as herself not by my doing either these were her opinions I just happened to agree

 

[hams]

that is so sad. i would say just encourage her to do her homework before she puts her money in the plate, anyone telling her that they can heal her is trying to steal from her. that is just about the foulest thing anyone can do.

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