The UK Growers Thread!

[nas2007]

hey guys got busted today 10 plants and got a simple caution took all my damn plants and equipment, interview didnt go on for no more than 3 minutes lol and they even dropped me back home, oh and they robbed my last 8th of stash.

oh well they were only doing their job its the goverment that sucks!!!

shit man. how did you get away what did you sayy to em? and most importent thing how did you get cought or how do you think they busted you? some one might have grased you up?

 

[brock]

Due to their leniency in previous cases, it is now pretty darn hard to have much more than a fine and possibly community service for personal plants at home. Harry potter actor was caught with baggied up weed in his car, a knife under teh seat and 14 plants at home, he got a few hundred quid fine and a hundred odd hours. Pretty hard to be legally convicted for less than that with a punishment higher than that.

thats always good to know, yea i remeber that

 

[tip top toker]

thats always good to know, yea i remeber that

I could let you know a whole lot ore, and if you were to give it the time of day and the research it requires, it would blow your mind. Youtube John James Harris. So far as i'm working towards, well, i'm a free man, legal notice or not, and i'm slowly wokring my way to being a lawful cannabis famer, as much as i need, and much as feel like. It's one reality shattering conception and it then gets shattered twofold when you find out it's true! my research today has foudn that while blacks 8th law dictionary defines a person as a human being, it has no definition of a human being, due to the fact that it's defintion is based on an association, that a person is made fro a human being so is a human being, but cannot offer definition of a human because a human is not always a person. There are 8 revisions of the legal dictionary for a very good reason But the reason is for no benefit other than their own

Leanr your human rights!

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

i got a mukka up in crown court in a week for about 40 plants fiddling the eleccy and a big bag of E's n lump of mdma, i honestly believe he'll get the worse punishment for the eleccy. ill keep you posted how it turns out.

 

[tip top toker]

Damn that would suck. Like you say, i imagine depending on his method for stealing the electricity, he will get a hefty punishment for that, the magistrate will bring in all the fire potential and danger to neighbours and such, then tell him to pay thousands and thousands to the witness fund etc.

Not much more space in jail though, there is an open jail in Usk in Wales, they state it is for non-serious prisoners, hence the reason a convicted murderer just wandered straight out into the wild. There's one local to me, there are news reports almost every month about X violent rapeist etc walking out of the open prison and is lose in the city and not to approach him, damned madness.

 

[new guy25]

some good reading And seen as your on the subject I found this about a guy caught with 9 plants
http://www.halifaxcourier.co.uk/news/Cannabis-grower-caught-after-tipoff.6546622.jp
The same reason most people grow thier our own and of corse no more getting ripped off lol

 

[new guy25]

petty recent only the other week

 

[new guy25]

hey guys got busted today 10 plants and got a simple caution took all my damn plants and equipment, interview didnt go on for no more than 3 minutes lol and they even dropped me back home, oh and they robbed my last 8th of stash.

oh well they were only doing their job its the goverment that sucks!!!

Sorry to hear that mate How did they find out do you think? and how did they go about the raid was it proper full on?

 

[tip top toker]

Cheers for that link newguy, always good to know what's going on in the present. In a case like that, first thing to do would be to turn the court into a court de jure, basically a court with a jury, as is your legal right, and then simply explain how damned daft the whole thing is in something along the lines of "if you stop me growing this 4 ounces of cannabis for myself then 30 minutes out of this court room and i will be buying said 4 ounces from a dealer working the black market, thus creating gangs, violence, civil unrest, dangerous neighbourhoods, further more, instead of spending the £800 saved on said 4 ounces in local shops and resteraunts, it will instead pay for weapons, cars and hollidays and more likely than not, cocaine as it is laundered. Please make your decision on which option is better for the whole of society, as you may stop me growing, but you may not stop me smoking." The judge is a bellend by definition, the jury however are just members of the public, it would be pretty hard for them as human beings to turn around and state guilty, they'd have to have some rather twisted morals and rationales.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

open prisons are the biggest waste of space and time man, aye he just bypassed the meter he's a qualified bloke so it was actually 100% safe and done with the right tools lol id still be shitting it in his position

 

[tip top toker]

Yup, they'll still find a way to spin it. Violating health and safety or some such nonsense, hope it doesn't go down too horribly for him.

Trying to work out whether to bring my cvat to the flat so i can keep an eye on my clones and such, or just to stay at the parents and look after her there. i kinda forsee coming in from work to find piss al over the place, litter tray or not.

 

[brock]

hey boys.

TTT i'll look up on it, i found out the other day, that you can grow plants in your house aslong as your no 3rd party is harmed or looses any possesions, in other words dont be selling to anyone (your harming them even tho its thier choice to smoke and thier loosing £20 everytime they come and see you).

i dont know about anywere else but in liverpool they will fuck you more for fiddling the elecy than being in possesion of a drug with the intent to sell.

 

[brock]

you know you have all these aliens and illegals, who say you cant move me because it is part of my human rights to be in this country.

well is it against my human rights to be told I HAVE TO cut a plant down? is it against MY human rights to be told I CANT HAVE a plantation in MY house for my own consumption?

 

[tip top toker]

Yup, it's all a bit fangled. Someone else has recently also mentioned the ability to grow a number of plants in your house legally if it's not causing harm loss or damage, defo need to read up on it. Currently occupied with blacks law dictionary. It's a 2000 page pdf, lots fo words to learn definitions of, there are some really interesting things to be noted as you go through it, i'm basically looking at Acts and "laws" and then deconstructing their meaning and jurisdiction word by word,

For example: act

A juridical act whose validity may be independent of the existence of lawfulness of the underlying cause.

So our misuse of drugs act, they can enforce and punish someone with this even if they have committed no crime.

damned crock!

 

[brock]

Yup, it's all a bit fangled. Someone else has recently also mentioned the ability to grow a number of plants in your house legally if it's not causing harm loss or damage, defo need to read up on it. Currently occupied with blacks law dictionary. It's a 2000 page pdf, lots fo words to learn definitions of, there are some really interesting things to be noted as you go through it, i'm basically looking at Acts and "laws" and then deconstructing their meaning and jurisdiction word by word,

For example: act

A juridical act whose validity may be independent of the existence of lawfulness of the underlying cause.

So our misuse of drugs act, they can enforce and punish someone with this even if they have committed no crime.

damned crock!

theres loopholes to get us everywere bro.

im halfway through reading howard marks "book of dope stories" and in the introduction (in his own words) he says.

"My first high-profile attempt to move towards cannabis relegalistaion was to smoke a joint at a London police station and offer myself as available for immediate arrest and imprisonment . The police declined. It occurred to me then (perhaps for the first time) that the police were not the enemy.

Most policemen choose that profession for completely honourable reason, such as protecting the society they love: they did not join up to imprison people for smoking herbs. policemen have walked the streets far more than the rest of us and know what the problems areand what casues them.

the ones that i've talked with, almost without exception, do not see the consumption of cannabis as problematic, but they do see the law prohibiting it to be so. I can not think of any law that has done more damage in terms of social upheaval, parent-child alienation and police-public hostility. "

 

[tip top toker]

I've never met a police officer i've disliked. I've had a hitch with weed and one with drink driving. With the weed, they did it by the books because the gent that phoned them was stood around, they told us if we wanted to smoke pot we should goto X" Wit the drink driving i took the official breath test and failed so declined my right to a blood test, the officer nodded and winked and said "well let me suggest you take it, it's a friday, who knows, the doctor could be, 4, 5 hours, you never know" and pretty much tried to get me off, didn't, but i knew his intentions.

When i say fuck the police i am really just saying fuck the stupid laws we all have to follow. As you say, they don't really seem to care either way, i know that in my city, they do not normally do a high profile arrest with neighbours wathing, they find the proof they need and leave a polite letter under the door asking the to pop down to the station beause of the cannabis plants. It seems that once it's the officers in charge of taking down the 1000 plant ops that they start to get macho and cocky and full of bravado, but hey, if i was busting a 1000 plpant grow i'd be pumped with adrenaline.

 

[Don Gin and Ton]

TTT you should go into the legal field as a mr loophole type for dope fiends

 

[brock]

iv got loads of street cautions when i was younger, the police named me and my mates as the ganja boys because they had nicked us that many times, they just started telling us to run a far as we could in 10 seconds and if they could still see us then they nick us and merseyside police will always give you your grinder back lol

 

[Matchbox]

all that freeman stuff and legal business is sooo much to take in but so damn nteresting its ridiculs

and does this count as bud porn softcore at least

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3 weeks 4 days. sorry for the sideways pictures.

 

[brock]

ooh looking yummy, starting to get frosty