need help with HIGH CBD strains...

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sm0keyrich510

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ok so for the longest I believed sativas were working for my anxiety...well of course to my ignorance i realized it had noting to do with indica/sativa...had to do with thc v. cbd v. cbn.

i noticed strains with 0.0% cbd were really bad for me...especially if the thc is 20%+ but i also noticed if theres no cbd in the strain even a mild 12-14% thc strain would be bad.

I'm looking for strains with highest levels of cbd and lowest of cbn...

I'm really on a quest for literally the ULTIMATE feel good, relaxed, happy, anti-anxiety strain there is out there. a strain very unlikely to make you panic (as i do with the wrong strains)...even full out panic attacks. looking to avoid those.

any/all help appreciated.
 
purplehazin

purplehazin

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Also letting a plant go a bit past her prime will net you less thc, more CBD but if it's an indica it may land you on the couch faster than you want.
 
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zeropercentthc

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Harborside Health Center in California apparently has a high CBD strain - so high it has minimal THC. Try web searching "Project CBD". Soma Rock Bud (Soma A+) had many samples with significant CBD in their test.
Genetically cannabis is either THC dominant, CBD dominant, or 50/50ish mix.
Cannatonic was tested at a Spannabis event showing 50/50 CBD/THC.
Try landraces, as landrace and feral strains are a lot less likely to be THC dominant than western bred drug strains. IIRC "the Real Seed Company" is a good source for landraces.
Experimenting with temperature settings with a vaporizer might help, if you can evaporate off the CBD at a separate temp from what the THC will evaporate.
Apparently Vancouver Seed Bank (had never heard of them) has a strain called "Soumi Hemp", a low THC high CBD hemp strain from Finland. And if you cross a hemp plant with a high THC strain, their first generation seeds should be 50/50.
I've heard that leaves may tend to have higher CBD relative to THC, compared to the flowers.
 
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growone

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this is a very complex topic, i have seen some posts that cbd isn't quite the magic thc modifier that it is cracked up to be
i do have one specific experience with nirvana PPP, from what i can see from cannabinoid tests on it, it contains almost no cbd
which should make it racy, but i've found it to be the least racy strain i've sampled, very calming but does have a quick tolerance build
keep reading on other's experiences, you never know where you will find the medicine you need
 
ataxia

ataxia

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I agree with the above poster .... I've sought out strains for their CBD, CBN content. I suffer from anxiety/panic attacks. and I grew out strains that claimed high CBD/CBN content with a medium range THC level. To be honest ... one strain that claimed to be high in both CBD/CBN caused anxiety..... now .... this could've been a result of the pheno, early picking, or nutes?
But whatever the case was ..it's onset raised my anxiety level. This didn't only happen to me either, it happend to a few people with the onset of the high ..
IMO so far with growing ... I don't think anti-anxiety properties come out of some strains unless their picked with MOSTLY amber trichs. surely this is common knowledge that these chemicals don't appear until late ripening ... and even then the anti-anxiety properties were there, but not with the onset of the strains in question. I think effects the anti-anxiety properties of cannabis vary but it doesn't have to indica, sativa, cbd, thc, thcv, or cbn. Sure the strain worked but not until 15 minutes after the onset.
also IMO. surely there are strains out there for anxiety but you have to find them through research and others personal experiences ... no one's anxiety is the same. and claims that high cbd/cbn do not mean that it's going to work for your anxiety.
In my case, it seemed the longer i let the plant go, of course the more couchlock, which i attribute the the levels rising. But, in my case, the more ripe the bud was. The more it left me spent, burn out, and FOR ME an anxiety inducing sense of unbalance and dizziness...
surely this was great smoke.... but something that needed to be dosed wisely due to it's sedative effects.
long story short ( too late) I think more research needs to be done with anti-anxiety properties of cannabis. To stop that panic you need something that will hit the GABA receptors. CBD/CBN have shown to do that. But that isn't the only part of the brain that's being affected. you have at least 3 to 4 cannabanoids competing with each other. so as far as anti-anxiety properties go ...instead of looking for levels of different chemicals .... go with what people who suffer the same issues as you recommend.
 
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zeropercentthc

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ataxia... I wonder if late harvest, whatever cannabinoids are produced more from late harvest, cause more vasodilation? Too much vasodilation could cause dizzyness/balance problems... I wonder if eyes tend to be redder with late harvest. (also vasodilation sign)
smokey, if you're just buying and not growing, it might be harder. With growing you can pick out phenotypes and harvest time that might help you find what works best for you. Plus with buying, who knows if the strain is really what the seller says it is?
 
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growone

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another part of the puzzle is how you medicate, joint, bong, vaporizer?
i have seen some other posts that mention smoking(with the carbon monoxide, cyanide) lowers oxygen levels
lower oxygen and you increase pulse rate, which can enhance anxiety issues by itself
i deal with the anxiety devil myself, no more smoking, just the vape
 
ataxia

ataxia

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zeropercentthc said:
ataxia... I wonder if late harvest, whatever cannabinoids are produced more from late harvest, cause more vasodilation? Too much vasodilation could cause dizzyness/balance problems... I wonder if eyes tend to be redder with late harvest. (also vasodilation sign)
smokey, if you're just buying and not growing, it might be harder. With growing you can pick out phenotypes and harvest time that might help you find what works best for you. Plus with buying, who knows if the strain is really what the seller says it is?
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It would make sense if they say letting your trichs turn amber it creates more of a couchlock high.... i'm no expert of course
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ataxia

ataxia

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growone said:
another part of the puzzle is how you medicate, joint, bong, vaporizer?
i have seen some other posts that mention smoking(with the carbon monoxide, cyanide) lowers oxygen levels
lower oxygen and you increase pulse rate, which can enhance anxiety issues by itself
i deal with the anxiety devil myself, no more smoking, just the vape
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so grow any particular strains you can recommend for anxiety... or at least ones that didn't have a high level paranoia associated with onset?? ( i understand one person is not like the other)
 
gumball

gumball

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ataxia said:
I agree with the above poster .... I've sought out strains for their CBD, CBN content. I suffer from anxiety/panic attacks. and I grew out strains that claimed high CBD/CBN content with a medium range THC level. To be honest ... one strain that claimed to be high in both CBD/CBN caused anxiety..... now .... this could've been a result of the pheno, early picking, or nutes?
But whatever the case was ..it's onset raised my anxiety level. This didn't only happen to me either, it happend to a few people with the onset of the high ..
IMO so far with growing ... I don't think anti-anxiety properties come out of some strains unless their picked with MOSTLY amber trichs. surely this is common knowledge that these chemicals don't appear until late ripening ... and even then the anti-anxiety properties were there, but not with the onset of the strains in question. I think effects the anti-anxiety properties of cannabis vary but it doesn't have to indica, sativa, cbd, thc, thcv, or cbn. Sure the strain worked but not until 15 minutes after the onset.
also IMO. surely there are strains out there for anxiety but you have to find them through research and others personal experiences ... no one's anxiety is the same. and claims that high cbd/cbn do not mean that it's going to work for your anxiety.
In my case, it seemed the longer i let the plant go, of course the more couchlock, which i attribute the the levels rising. But, in my case, the more ripe the bud was. The more it left me spent, burn out, and FOR ME an anxiety inducing sense of unbalance and dizziness...
surely this was great smoke.... but something that needed to be dosed wisely due to it's sedative effects.
long story short ( too late) I think more research needs to be done with anti-anxiety properties of cannabis. To stop that panic you need something that will hit the GABA receptors. CBD/CBN have shown to do that. But that isn't the only part of the brain that's being affected. you have at least 3 to 4 cannabanoids competing with each other. so as far as anti-anxiety properties go ...instead of looking for levels of different chemicals .... go with what people who suffer the same issues as you recommend.
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not trying to steal the thread, but you had some good points, and i thought i may ask a question which could help the OP, and myself. i have anxiety issues as well, but i really dont think they are extreme, or i manage them well one. either way you mentioned it may not matter if its indica, sativa, etc, etc. you mentioned it may be more of the length of ripening. i know a sativa high is more energetic, heady buzz. does sativa become more couchlock as it is ripened more?

not trying to steal the thread, but i thought the question may be relevant. i have not grown out any known strains yet. all bagseed but i have a reg lemon skunk seed, really hope its a bitch!!
 
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growone

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my recent experience is limited, been working through strains the last year and a half
so far nirvana's PPP is the best anti anxiety strain that i've found, but it's not usually considered a medical strain
some describe the high as boring, which i wouldn't argue with
but boring beats anxiety(in my opinion)
Cali-O is what next on my list, seems to have a good anxiety rep, 1st grow it was a male so i do have some Cali-O seed crosses to run eventually
 
ataxia

ataxia

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gumball said:
not trying to steal the thread, but you had some good points, and i thought i may ask a question which could help the OP, and myself. i have anxiety issues as well, but i really dont think they are extreme, or i manage them well one. either way you mentioned it may not matter if its indica, sativa, etc, etc. you mentioned it may be more of the length of ripening. i know a sativa high is more energetic, heady buzz. does sativa become more couchlock as it is ripened more?

not trying to steal the thread, but i thought the question may be relevant. i have not grown out any known strains yet. all bagseed but i have a reg lemon skunk seed, really hope its a bitch!!
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I've wondered the same thing about sativas. What the effect is when letting them go to full amber. But from most reports it seems they are considered ripe when its mostly cloudy. but i really don't know the answer to that.
I can say i've had some strains that i didn't know what they were that produced a fine high, and potent at that.... the only report i could really give about a sativa dominant plant was some Jacks Cleaner a friend of mine was lucky to score. It had a very clear high, not dreamy or racy. Just a clean, uplifting high. I don't doubt that alot of sativas would beat out indicas for their anti-anxiety properties. But like i said. I'm no expert and i'm sure strains vary for people with mental issues for the most part.
Maybe someone with more knowledge on the subject will pop in.
 
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