The RIU prop19 poll vote here.(california resident only pleace)

yes or no


  • Total voters
    64
  • Poll closed .

desert dude

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I tried explaining to people how Obama wont make a difference...before he even had the nomination...it was a futile endeavor.
He implied that he would be better on Cannabis law, but he did not deliver. No politician will deliver on Cannabis law. This issue will only be fixed by the voters, nobody else has the nerve.
 

The Ruiner

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He implied that he would be better on Cannabis law, but he did not deliver. No politician will deliver on Cannabis law. This issue will only be fixed by the voters, nobody else has the nerve.
He not only implied, but pretty much stopped just short of promising the world. If anyone cared to look into who was running and supporting his early campaign it should have been totally obvious...but...you know how these things go: a lot of people get really excited about really bad ideas, they vote for them and are dissapointed with the results...exactly why I am voting no on 19. Same exact M.O.
 

desert dude

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He not only implied, but pretty much stopped just short of promising the world. If anyone cared to look into who was running and supporting his early campaign it should have been totally obvious...but...you know how these things go: a lot of people get really excited about really bad ideas, they vote for them and are dissapointed with the results...exactly why I am voting no on 19. Same exact M.O.
When you vote for a politician, you get a politician. A voter initiative is a different animal, it is simply a package that amends the constitution. It is simple to understand, at least when compared to a politician, and it doesn't change its mind. It means what it says. Not to say that bad actors won't try to thwart it or bend it to mean something different from what it actually says, certainly we can expect all of those things to happen. If the courts are honest though, then ultimately P19 will do exactly what it says: legalize MJ possession and cultivation, exempt P215 from its restrictions, allow local governments to allow commercial growth and sales and to liberalize P19's restrictions.

In the long run, if P19 passes, it will force a rethinking of the war on people who use politically incorrect substances and will bring about more freedom for all of us. That is my interest in the whole matter.
 

veggiegardener

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He not only implied, but pretty much stopped just short of promising the world. If anyone cared to look into who was running and supporting his early campaign it should have been totally obvious...but...you know how these things go: a lot of people get really excited about really bad ideas, they vote for them and are dissapointed with the results...exactly why I am voting no on 19. Same exact M.O.

I was a Clinton supporter. I think she'd have been the best choice, because she knows how to bully Republicans. Bill was the best I've seen at that in my 60 years.

Anyway, a close friend had the opportunity to ask Bill point blank(nose to nose) what Hillary thought of Cannabis legalization. "She doesn't oppose it." was the reply. this was in Eureka, shortly before the election.

Obama only supported MMJ weakly, AFTER his staff realized that on the coasts, this could be a big deal.

I think, if he can find the support in Congress, he'll try to get some sort of Medical Cannabis bill passed, but he needs to call Republicans and teabaggers what they are, short sighted, greedy, venal, stupid, unqualified idiots. And make it stick.
 

desert dude

Well-Known Member
I was a Clinton supporter. I think she'd have been the best choice, because she knows how to bully Republicans. Bill was the best I've seen at that in my 60 years.

Anyway, a close friend had the opportunity to ask Bill point blank(nose to nose) what Hillary thought of Cannabis legalization. "She doesn't oppose it." was the reply. this was in Eureka, shortly before the election.

Obama only supported MMJ weakly, AFTER his staff realized that on the coasts, this could be a big deal.

I think, if he can find the support in Congress, he'll try to get some sort of Medical Cannabis bill passed, but he needs to call Republicans and teabaggers what they are, short sighted, greedy, venal, stupid, unqualified idiots. And make it stick.
You can put your faith in politicians if you like. I prefer written law.
 

Sure Shot

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Proposition 19 found its strongest support in the Bay Area, passing in San Francisco and four nearby counties. San Francisco voters were most supportive, favoring the measure, 65% to 35%.
 
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