Balls to the Wall grow, Riddleme Gets Serious

pkp134

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nice shit man one more notch in the belt, and now we are off again already... truly amazing. How long have the colored pots been in flower?
 

riddleme

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nice shit man one more notch in the belt, and now we are off again already... truly amazing. How long have the colored pots been in flower?
3 weeks, they were cloned from the ones I just harvested, next run will be from seed :) as the breeding project continues, gonna see some jack herrer, mind bender and crystal limit plus tilders X udo seeds from this grow, will be starting seeds next weekend :)
 

pkp134

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Wow... strain names are going to be fun, but thats also going to be alot of work. Have you ever grown sub cool strains before? I would also love to see you get down on some autoflowering myths...
 

riddleme

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for me strain names are gonna be easy, I'm a huge DIO fan and he passed this year so will name strains in his honor, when my daughter died I got thru it by attaching DIO's song Sacred Heart to her (I still cry when I listen to it) so my first strain will be Sacred Heart :)

and yes it is a lot of work and takes years to develope a good strain but I am going old school for the foundation and then mixing some very good strains in looking for those highs of yesteryear, not much out there today rivals the stuff I smoked in the 70's IMO :)

never grew sub cool strains, not currently in my plans and I would most likely never do an autoflower
 

pkp134

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You're growing style deffinitely doesnt allow for autos. unless you grew like 40 of them. I wish I was there to try some in the 70s but this vintage meets the future thing sounds kinda delish... and DIO is the shit.:-P
 
Hey Riddleme I was just re-reading this thread and had a couple questions if you don't mind. You said a ways back that you found a good deal on the calcined clay balls. Where did you source those, and what was the cost? Additionally I have been trying to find a resource for the Jrpeters nutes you suggested and have not yet been able to find a source here in the west. Did you order those direct from Peters in Pa. I'm on about page 60 and have not yet found your reference to PH in the #4 mix. I know the rain is 5.8, but can't remember your nute PH. I found a product called Pro mix bx http://www.pro-mixbas.com/ Is this similar to your #4? Would the nute PH be similar? Sorry for the cavalcade of questions.:dunce:
 

riddleme

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Hey Riddleme I was just re-reading this thread and had a couple questions if you don't mind. You said a ways back that you found a good deal on the calcined clay balls. Where did you source those, and what was the cost? Additionally I have been trying to find a resource for the Jrpeters nutes you suggested and have not yet been able to find a source here in the west. Did you order those direct from Peters in Pa. I'm on about page 60 and have not yet found your reference to PH in the #4 mix. I know the rain is 5.8, but can't remember your nute PH. I found a product called Pro mix bx http://www.pro-mixbas.com/ Is this similar to your #4? Would the nute PH be similar? Sorry for the cavalcade of questions.:dunce:
I got the clay balls at American Clay a store here in Denver, they also had the peters professional I am using (the 20-10-20 Peat Lite Special) it was a 45 litre bag of clay balls (about 50 lbs) for $36 as I recall

I PH my nutes down to 5.8 as well

you can't find the PH reference for the #4 mix cause I never even looked on the bag to see what it was LOL

Promix is a peat based soilless medium much like #4, I went with #4 because it was what I saw being used with the calcined clay that made me want to try it :) Promix should be similar? I've never used it but there are alot of growers here that do
 
Thanks for the quick reply. I noticed that the Pro-mix has some dolomite, but had planned on amending it. Is it possible to overdo this?
 

Illumination

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yes they are, just finished, wet wieght comming in at 2395 grams :) let the guessing begin
remember I leave the leafs on

pics & updates comming
That should be your "Holy Grail" strain name. Sacred Heart the perfecting of the Holy Diver strain . My heart to you my friend as I am lucky enough to not know your pain of loss, but as a father myself I can relate....My fave Dio is "Don't Talk to Strangers" but love and miss him dearly. Was fortunate enough to see him with Geezer and Tony as Heaven and Hell, the tour was cancelled weeks after I saw them due to his discovery of stomach cancer, and months later his passing. Felt so fortunate to have seen him like it was fate you know?

My guesstimate 569 grams dryweight.

Outstanding job Teach!:clap:

Namaste':leaf:

GEAUX SAINTS!
 

Illumination

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Thanks for the quick reply. I noticed that the Pro-mix has some dolomite, but had planned on amending it. Is it possible to overdo this?

IMHHO as for buffering of ph it will never raise it above 7.0 but as to causing nutrient blocks per too much calcium magnesium if you go crazy, but otherwise I think you are fine...

Hope it helps..

Namaste':leaf:
 

WWShadow

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hey riddle, what was the actual time on cooking the popcorn buds?
I was reading back over this thread & found about 2 whole pages that somehow I missed....it was important info too. I'm glad I reread stuff every now and then
 

riddleme

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hey riddle, what was the actual time on cooking the popcorn buds?
I was reading back over this thread & found about 2 whole pages that somehow I missed....it was important info too. I'm glad I reread stuff every now and then
it has varied, they tend to dry out in 2 to 3 days, was better with the big pile which took 4 days, I have pretty much given up on tryin to slow em down and goin more for consistency :)
 

DaveCoulier

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Thanks for the quick reply. I noticed that the Pro-mix has some dolomite, but had planned on amending it. Is it possible to overdo this?
IMHHO as for buffering of ph it will never raise it above 7.0 but as to causing nutrient blocks per too much calcium magnesium if you go crazy, but otherwise I think you are fine...

Hope it helps..

Namaste':leaf:
Ive wondered about this before, which is why I contacted Bill Argo a few months back to ask about the possibility of overliming. Bill Argo has a great series called Understanding Plant Nutrition and he is the man to ask questions about media ph.

This is what he wrote back to me:

Will Dolomitic lime get the pH over 7.0? The answer is yes, but it may take a while to occur. The solubility of any limestone decreases, as the pH increases, so the reaction rate of limestone slows dramatically once you get into the high 6's or low 7's. However, just because it slows down does not mean that it is stopped. If you overlime a media, you will eventually react an equilibrium pH. As long as there is free calcium present, this equilibrium acts as a pH buffer (i.e. the pH will not go above this equilibrium pH)

With limestone, the equilibrium pH is dependent not only on the calcium concentration, but also the CO2 (gas) concentration in the soil. At atmospheric CO2 concentrations, the equilibrium pH is around 8.5. At higher CO2 concentrations, the equilibrium pH is suppressed.

Since container media are highly porous, the CO2 (g) concentration measured in a media is similar to atmospheric CO2, and so the maximum pH you tend to get in container media is around 8.5. In field soil, the CO2(g) concentration is often reported to be 10x higher than atmospheric CO2, and so the equilibrium pH is lower (low to mid 7's). These are what are termed calcareous soils.



Hope it helps.
 

Dr. Nuggett

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RiddleMe, How long before you start the new garden IR heater experiment. I was just wondering sense you added another light are you going to add another IR heater and when can we expect pictures?
 

riddleme

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RiddleMe, How long before you start the new garden IR heater experiment. I was just wondering sense you added another light are you going to add another IR heater and when can we expect pictures?
not adding another heater, and experiment is running, will report findings as they occur?
 
Ive wondered about this before, which is why I contacted Bill Argo a few months back to ask about the possibility of overliming. Bill Argo has a great series called Understanding Plant Nutrition and he is the man to ask questions about media ph.

This is what he wrote back to me:

Will Dolomitic lime get the pH over 7.0? The answer is yes, but it may take a while to occur. The solubility of any limestone decreases, as the pH increases, so the reaction rate of limestone slows dramatically once you get into the high 6's or low 7's. However, just because it slows down does not mean that it is stopped. If you overlime a media, you will eventually react an equilibrium pH. As long as there is free calcium present, this equilibrium acts as a pH buffer (i.e. the pH will not go above this equilibrium pH)

With limestone, the equilibrium pH is dependent not only on the calcium concentration, but also the CO2 (gas) concentration in the soil. At atmospheric CO2 concentrations, the equilibrium pH is around 8.5. At higher CO2 concentrations, the equilibrium pH is suppressed.

Since container media are highly porous, the CO2 (g) concentration measured in a media is similar to atmospheric CO2, and so the maximum pH you tend to get in container media is around 8.5. In field soil, the CO2(g) concentration is often reported to be 10x higher than atmospheric CO2, and so the equilibrium pH is lower (low to mid 7's). These are what are termed calcareous soils.



Hope it helps.
Great info. Thanks. That's interesting about the CO2 concentration in field soil and its affect on PH.
 
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