lime73
Weed Modifier
He does this allot!!! raw don't post about shit you have no idea about....try coming back to earth man!!!
A test in progress.... Miracle Grow soil vs. Fox Farms soil. Is MG really that bad?
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RawBudzski
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MG is the CFL of Soil.. .
gumball
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CFL's grow some very nice buds man, you cant knock them but so much.
moash
New Member
i would like to say growing with cfl's is an art
not everyone can get good yeilds with them
have u ever used cfl's?
lime73
Weed Modifier
bet he don't know what cfl is he probably thinks it is Canadian Football League...haha to funny, I seriously doubt if he even grows....lots of crap coming from his mouth lately...everywhere!
Raw is Just a troll trying to rack up post!!! Raw.....you will be known in no time!!! lmao So where is your thread??? Started your new one yet! I'm sure lots of people would want to talk to you about crap!!! ahahahahaha
Raw is Just a troll trying to rack up post!!! Raw.....you will be known in no time!!! lmao So where is your thread??? Started your new one yet! I'm sure lots of people would want to talk to you about crap!!! ahahahahaha
lime73
Weed Modifier
Hey guys, sorry for the absence, I started back to work last week, and have been busy as hell. Then, when I did get some free time, my computer fucked up, of course.lol ANYWAY,....I'm sorry to bring some bad news....
...I recently got word that my place is being watched, possibly raided soon, and have to shut down operations. *pouts* That was last weekend. I haven't touched the plants since then, not a drop of water or fert, and surprisingly, they still look pretty damn good. Sucks, knowing that I have to kill them, especially since they were ready for 12/12, a week ago. I had to chop down the first generation, that were in week 8 of 12/12, and weighed the yield from one plant. It was 90 grams, after being dried extra-crispy.lol That's pretty damn good, considering that they were only 24" tall. I haven't chopped those in this test, yet, but plan to, tonight. *pouts some more*
It's a REALLY tough decision to make, which is why they're still alive, today. But, being that my house and my job are on the line, I can't take the risk of keeping them. I REALLY wish I could, because the smoke is awesome. I'd love to be able to show you guys the final results, as well. Honestly though, I seriously doubt there will be any difference in yield, once I start feeding them myself. After this test, I'm convinced that any soil can perform great, as long as you have the drainage under control, and a good solid watering routine. Yes, some soils have more nutes than others, BUT, IMO, it's the growers responsibility to compensate for that, and adjust accordingly. IMO, soils with equal drainage, and equal PH ranges, will perform almost identically, reguardless of what if stamped in the bag. I'm betting that I could grow plants just as nice, in a pile of shredded newspaper,(for example) as long as I got the feeding doses correct.lol As long as plants get sufficient oxygen to their roots, and get the nutes they require, yiou can grow them in practically any medium. That's what I got out of this test. As far as "supersoils" go.....IMO, they main difference, is that they are loaded with nutes, not enough to burn the plants, but just enough to keep them sustained for longer than most soils. Add enough perlite to just about any soil, and it'll do just as well. In those cases, the nutes, are your responsibility.
So, for all you haters of MG soils, or any soils, for that matter, either add perlite and learn how to water properly, or shut the hell up, and stop spreading rumors that you can't back up.IMO, the only way MG soil can harm your plants, is if it was purchased from a place that stored it improperly(outside in the rain, for example), and went acidic, or rancid. Fresh MG soil, works just as well as anything else, granted that you correct it's drainage problems. Those "time-released nutes", are ABSOLUTELY nothing to worry about, and aren't the same as those pellet-type ferts that us growers should avoid. That .14-.12-.07(or whatever it is.lol) isn't enough to hurt a damn thing. That's like 1/50th strength of the ferts we use, for christ-sakes. Definitely not capable of burning anything, no mater whether you just watered them, or not.
I will definitely be taking pics before I chop them, so stay tuned. If I get brave, I might keep them, or maybe two of them, but not sure, atm. It's not looking real good, for now. I need to make some more phone calls, me thinks.
That suck and sorry to here man!
Excellent thread and you have proven allot....mostly don't believe the hype...try it for yourself, and see it through your own experience! Excellent read buddy +rep for you!!!
ps. raw will not answer...he's not from earth.... he is not human....he is a POSER!!! Just quotes others....lol you'll see
moash
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RavenMochi
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Another Troll!!
Jack in the Bud
Active Member
Raven,Another Troll!!
Ever since I've first seen your avatar I've been waiting for you to start croaking "Nevermore" at one of these fools. I just can't help myself. Poe's, "The Raven" has always been one of my favorites.
Jack
And the raven, never flitting, still is sitting, still is sitting
On the pallid bust of Pallas just above my chamber door;
And his eyes have all the seeming of a demon's that is dreaming,
And the lamp-light o'er him streaming throws his shadow on the floor;
And my soul from out that shadow that lies floating on the floor
Shall be lifted - nevermore!
Jefferstone
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Oddly enough, I think he's right. I believe that MG is the CFL of soils.
Why? Because you can have great success with both and they both have an undeserved bad rap.
I grow in a combo MG potting soil/organics and perlite, under about 400watts of CFL. I almost never nute unless I see a deficiency. My last grow I got 1.5 - 2 oz per plant. Hell, I only opened the tent to water, adjust lights and LST once or twice.
So I think, after seeing this really informative thread, these are the questions I ask myself:
Could I increase the yield if I spent days mixing FF and guano, castings, my own urine, etc? Maybe, but probably not.
Am I stoned all the time using CFL and MG? Most definitely.
Why? Because you can have great success with both and they both have an undeserved bad rap.
I grow in a combo MG potting soil/organics and perlite, under about 400watts of CFL. I almost never nute unless I see a deficiency. My last grow I got 1.5 - 2 oz per plant. Hell, I only opened the tent to water, adjust lights and LST once or twice.
So I think, after seeing this really informative thread, these are the questions I ask myself:
Could I increase the yield if I spent days mixing FF and guano, castings, my own urine, etc? Maybe, but probably not.
Am I stoned all the time using CFL and MG? Most definitely.
RawBudzski
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As i have recently found out.. .My 1st grow is > yours.
RawBudzski
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and to all you who call me a troll your just mad your stuck with MG soil or CLFs it seems.
Serapis
Well-Known Member
No, you're being called a troll because everyone sub'ed to this thread has seen for themselves that MG BEAT FF hands down. Then you come along and make a dumb comment about MG that everyone here knows to be false. Either ignorance on your part is to blame for your comments, or you really did have a bad experience with MG. If you aren't ignorant of MG, then please share your bad experiences with us?
I'm willing to bet you have no MG knowledge first hand.....
Jefferstone
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I agree with Serapis.
Anyway...
What is this my grow is bigger than yours shit? Shall we compare penis length and debate as to whether my dad can beat up your dad too? I think somebody needs to smoke a bowl.
This ain't a contest man. Grow your shit in the manner that pleases you and then smoke it. End of debate.
Anyway...
What is this my grow is bigger than yours shit? Shall we compare penis length and debate as to whether my dad can beat up your dad too? I think somebody needs to smoke a bowl.
This ain't a contest man. Grow your shit in the manner that pleases you and then smoke it. End of debate.
RawBudzski
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I have never seriously grown in soil. MG can do it im sure but im sticking with my CFL comparison because yea PPL can yield with CFLs... PPL can yield with MG.. but MG cant compare to a Custom made soil that has a little more $$$ and planning behind it such as I dont care How SKILLED you are with CFL you wont Knock even 1 of my 600w HPS/MH. on the coldest day in hell. same with MG, do what you can but you wont be MATCHING with thoes who are outback mixing Steer Manure / fish guts / guano / micro nutes in a custom blend. No way MG tops that.
Serapis
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So you have no facts or first hand knowledge of Miracle Grow, but can condemn it as if you did....
I'm glad you don't rate and critique new movies that you have never seen, because that is exactly what you are doing with MG. I have first hand knowledge of MG and several other commercial soils and MG exceeds the others. This thread is further proof if you would take the time to read through it and view the pictures.... Your CFL analogy doesn't apply to soils...
Also. what percentage of growers do you think are mixing their own soils, or have access to steer manure and fish guts? Maybe 2-3% of growers? And who in their right mind would grow with that shit in their house? You are trying to compare apples to oranges, and everyone here can see how foolish it is. commercial soils are the base for 95% of dirt bag grows.
First you slam MG, now you are trying to state that everyone should be mixing steer manure and fish guts.... Laughable, comes to mind...
RawBudzski
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Steer manure is the Basic .99 cent shit at home depot so ima stop reading your reply their. get out more kid.
Serapis
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And I'll ignore your obvious trolling.... certainly the fish guts are right next to the steer manure? Get a clue...
RawBudzski
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all im saying is PPL who use CFL use CFL cause they dont wanna spend the $$ on MH HPS. reall WATTAGE. same as ppl with MG they avoid spending extra $$ on a custom blend.