The Art of The Auto

[John Mondello]

mossy... question... given my current setup... and wanting to produce seeds... femmed... but not hermies...
what method would you reccomend for doing that this time... I want to start light deprivation but I'm afraid of mistakenly crossing some hermies... should i let this run go almost all the way, then do a cut-back and light deprivation to get some males heads, and then save those for the next round and count any seeds from this round as suspected hermies? I definetly dont have room for another chamber even for 3 of these sexy little ladies. And I definetly need tm produce seed... thats the primary reason for an indoor grow this time...

Any and all advice is appreciated and walways well recieved..

J

ps - thats part of why I share my empricial data with you guys.... you've helped me so much... can I say thank you again?

 

[FullDuplex]

Damn a bit of catching up to do.

1 week to go today till a cut my babys down

these look amazing my friend. I know that they were suposed to be auto BUT
i think you got WAY more than your monies worth. They look spectacular my friend. +rep

The Usual Slutspects...
Well... since fogger re-inception... I haven't watered in 2 goin on 3 days... they've jacked the eff up! and it appears my heights... way off... shortest at 16 inches tallest at 26 inches.... concerns grow with my girls... will i have enough space?

They sure are looking mighty fine there JM. I see that fogger is really doing its trick with the co2 infused.

I do have one question for you though. How long do you plan on keeping the humidity that high?

In the words of DJ Short...

Im gonna have to agree with this.

Far too good to be 2 in an 8 inch pot...

Not really i think its where they need to be. I love monsters in a little pot, there is something different about there structure all together. Almost seems that they grow tighter than the rest. they look fantastic my friend. the heads on the two of them are BEAUTIFUL

Guess That explains it..

Yup sure does and thats a direct result of the water that you have been feeding them love to see that especially since i never get to.

See the size of the Leaf Fingers on the girl in the back row...

You know that i couldnt miss those. nice and fat and healthy. Look like what i have going on over here with the ICU. I cant wait to start seeing bud formations on those, then it will be back to the patio i know and love

nice technique... the washdown... unfortunately, I'm on the ground with a horse barn right behind me... if it creeps through the cracks in the side of the barn ... the "non-smokers" will smell it and possibly report it to some "authority". So... recautions must be taken... above and beyond my call to duty... lol

I hear ya about safety, i am in the garage and my neighbors are close.
it always concerns me that they may one day get a wiff
but the garage is sealed and the box in in it and the box is sealed.

But i do have an exhaust to concern about......stopped that though by moving
LadyD's evil cats litter box to the garage. I benefited 2 ways he keeps the smell down cause of the litter over powers it and hes out of my view more

ps - haven't seend FD in here yet this morn... hope he's not locked out

not locked out just reading all the stuff thats happened, never realized how horny all of you were

 

[John Mondello]

They sure are looking mighty fine there JM. I see that fogger is really doing its trick with the co2 infused.

I do have one question for you though. How long do you plan on keeping the humidity that high?

Well, I'm going to have to dial it back farily soon as they apprach full flower... what do you recommend? Remember this is actually a fog humidity... not like normal "dissolved in air" humidity... I know this is really high.. but my house's humidity is about 75% (relative) which translates a little lower in the chamber cuz the temp in there is kept 88-91 F and the house temp is more like 75% but basically, in order for the humistat controller for the fogger to "call on" it needs to be set above surrounding humidity.

not locked out just reading all the stuff thats happened, never realized how horny all of you were

How did you not know ? lol

 

[FullDuplex]

Well, I'm going to have to dial it back farily soon as they apprach full flower... what do you recommend?

I was hoping that you were going to say that. It needs to be dialed back once you get into flower or you are going to see a nightmare. I Know that they are different types of humidity but there is still moisture in the air that can get in and on the buds in flower. Most autos bud even, and with this trait they are packed in there tightly.

Mossy used to tell me to get my fingers in behind the buds during full flower. Making sure that i got adequate air flow to avoid mold and rot. I fear that even though its a different application that you could be in danger of mold later in flower IF you left the levels that high. I usually can stand 50% during flower and be ok, but i make sure my fans are on the buds as well as space them with a finger tip to allow air behind them.

How did you not know ? lol

I had an idea that maybe yall were as bad as me i guess im just not as forward in it in my forum life as i am in real life. Bud just gets me going LOL

 

[John Mondello]

Yeah, I appreciate the advice... I remember reading that early-on when I first jumped in here... I will def dial it back... and prob as soon as the exhaust ionizer gets here switch it out completely until finished... cant wait to get real co2 enrichment! Oh well, next time around I should have the funding...

Dual 7" fans are always running when the fogger is on... they only go off when exhaust cycle starts to control air echange flow correctly. It gives the plants good "shaking" for stem strength and also keeps air swinging around in there pretty good... also, the ionizer is heling to combat molds and such. Of course, thats coming out as well at least for the last 2 weeks of flower... I read somehwere that it eats the turpines up... cant have that!

And we're all as bad as you... I may be wayyyyyy worse! lol

J

ps... havent smoked all day yet.. think its time!

 

[mossys]

JM...remember me asking when we first met if you had run the fog through bud stage...
that was what I was wondering..
But..I don't know anything about foggers..you are the first I have seen.

Fogging can be switched off if not needed can't it..?

FullD....

I love monsters in a little pot,

Too late...the view of the roots was when I was transplanting.....

I know that they were suposed to be auto BUT
i think you got WAY more than your monies worth

I think he will be WELL happy..
But..
if he'd only had a small/AF grow-room....he'd have been Screwed.

BOTH Oguns...Both very different crosses...different selection points.

 

[FullDuplex]

Too late...the view of the roots was when I was transplanting.....

I thought thats what you did but my heart still broke when you confirmed it,
Bet you could hear it from there.

I think he will be WELL happy..
But..
if he'd only had a small/AF grow-room....he'd have been Screwed.

Very true, either that or got real accustomed to LST real quick like lol
He will be happy and thank goodness for a set up that allowed that to happen
Christmas is gonna be good for him this year

BOTH Oguns...Both very different crosses...different selection points.

OH but lookie at that saw tooth coming out. Has to be one of my fav features on your plants my friend. Evil bud carried her and that one will always have a special place in my heart

My eye is partial to the ones in the left planter. Uniformed quite nicely and rather lush my liking

and is that a DC leaf poking its head in at the lower corner?

 

[John Mondello]

just cant get over how healthy they look mossy...

 

[K21701]

Getting a bit quiet here today...Thought I might liven things up.... The Art of Auto:

 

[John Mondello]

jeez.. k21... tell me thats NOT you

nothin like torture... thanks

I cant even talk about all the things I'd to that...
the car and the girl!

 

[K21701]

jeez.. k21... tell me thats NOT you

nothin like torture... thanks

I cant even talk about all the things I'd to that...
the car and the girl!

Oh Baby I could only wish it was me...There was a car in that pic????? lol

 

[FullDuplex]

There was a car in that pic????? lol

Right what car??

and it is a little quiet in here today
but i cant expect 4 pages a day all the time lol

Seems right now everyones plants are at the point before they explode
The views have crossed the 46,000 point as of today
i can bet you the replies and views go through the roof when we start budding out

 

[John Mondello]

I'll bet you we beat 50,000 views Before that!

 

[nealcook420]

Morning JM...how is it smelling at you place...methinks that fogger is gonna add to the aromatics that greet you at the door.
I know when I stick my head in the cupboard and it is warm and moist..it seems to enhance girl smell.

nc....that first photo is Betty through and through...she yellows and mellows..and just seeing that makes me Hungry.
That bud under there is evil isn't it...
What did your Dad think of them..for ease of growing etc..compared to the loong-season.

Dad loves your all of your autos but Bad Betty really surprised him with how big she got so quick, We were out of smoke so I clipped a really young bud from The Bad Betty and it blistered our brains.
The ALF#3 takes the cake though, He figures if I can pin point that pheno there would be no need in photoperiod plants.
He has an old buddy that doesn't understand the whole autoflowering thing but he loves the Afghan influence in your crosses.

 

[Medical Grade]

I use an amended version of it.
I used his ideas for a base and then tailored it to autos needs.
Im right in the middle of an all water run with it.

Did you amend the recipe because it was not good for auto's? Did you try the full recipie for super soil before making changes?

 

[FullDuplex]

Did you amend the recipe because it was not good for auto's? Did you try the full recipie for super soil before making changes?

I tried the full recipe and it was way to hot and the pH fluctuated Way to much for my liking. I made it exactly how he made it will all the same ingredients.
the only thing i didnt use was roots soil, i would have to order it and i am not going to order dirt lol
I found a similiar mix here that was just as good and had the same numbers that roots did.

Since then i have removed the roots type soil for the base and have went to straight cow compo and it works better and im not burning or hermi'ing plants.
Its all about what they need to live, if you listen to them they will tell you want they need. This is what i have sworn by and has given me several successful auto harvests

 

[FullDuplex]

I'll bet you we beat 50,000 views Before that!

That would be nice but i have big shoes to fill

If i remember correctly mossy had 500,000 views on his thread 2009 my date with density

 

[Medical Grade]

So, maybe I will use less super soil, and some FF light warrior in the pot to cool off the soil some.

 

[FullDuplex]

So, maybe I will use less super soil, and some FF light warrior in the pot to cool off the soil some.

be careful with that FFOF and then supersoil.
FFOF is lightly ferted if i remember correctly, this could end up in a disaster
i would get some plain potting mix that has no nute content as well as lots of perlite
and start in that then transplant to the SS. i can forsee pH issues with a start of FF and then ss
two totally different recopies with different concentrations of additives.
Make me bite my nails a little TBH

 

[John Mondello]

That would be nice but i have big shoes to fill

If i remember correctly mossy had 500,000 views on his thread 2009 my date with density

Damn!

be careful with that FFOF and then supersoil.
FFOF is lightly ferted if i remember correctly, this could end up in a disaster
i would get some plain potting mix that has no nute content as well as lots of perlite
and start in that then transplant to the SS. i can forsee pH issues with a start of FF and then ss
two totally different recopies with different concentrations of additives.
Make me bite my nails a little TBH

Abso-freaking-lutely! and I mean DILUTELY!

if you're using fox farm, I reccommend you use normal (non-ferted) soil plugs about 2" in diameter and about 2" depth inside the FFOF dirt in your pots, start your seeds in this and let them spread their roots into the FFOF... which is actually pretty hot... you wont need ANY nutes for 30 days in FFOF


If you go back through this thread you'll see where I ph tipped mine by overnuting... and I thought I was using a WEAK solution.
J