CO from yellow flame!!??

[tatamama]

Someone please answer or help.. This guy, pic below, says he uses this in his grow to get co2. He also says his ambient co2 without the lantern is 600ppm.. From what I know a yellow flame is burning o2 and creating lots and lots of co, carbon monoxide. It will make co2 to an extent but won't it make to much co for a grow indoors in a co2 sealed environment?? Blue flame is what I thought you would want with hardly any yellow.. Those lanterns are for light not co2. Right?? And ambient co2 is usually when high around 300ppm in a city right? I mean you have to live in pollutionville for the regular air to be 600ppm co2 yes??? I just don't think he is being honest about that do you?? Thanks...

 

[lowerarchy]

600ppm is about right if he lives on a traffic median. You'd think he'd be happy with the 30% increase over ambient of 400ppm...

You should get him a carbon monoxide monitor for Christmas. Sounds like you know your shit but if he won't listen to you perhaps he'll listen to a high-pitched beeping noise.

 

[jimbizzzale67123]

Wow some people just dont want to do research, I would definitely get ur bro that Co detector for Christmas.

 

[Wetdog]

Yup, blue flame is what you want.

I use old Aladdin Blue Flame heaters both in the house and for the plants.

The newer ones (lawyerized), that burn with yellow flames mean headaches real quick from the CO they put out.

Wet

 

[tatamama]

I know I am right and thanks. I want to know what he thinks we are doing on this site? does he think we are just waiting for someone to say something that is totally against everything we know and we will just say wow I was wrong and he must have a great answer we did not realize.. So brilliant!!! Yellow, means co bro. So sorry for your cat. It most likely sleeps not because it is a cat and or because it is old but because you are killing it with Carbon Monoxide.. So you know ididot, sorry I had to say that, co is odorless and not like your mama's kitchen stove gas, natural gas, which bye the way again is also odorless but they add stink so you know when you are dieing.. Those mantles are for light and they burn off all the o2 in the area and if you are trying to put co2 in anywhere the area must be sealed or it is worthless and then that little set up you have will either kill everything, it will, and then go out because it is starved for O2!!! Then it will just fill the room with gas that is no longer being ignighted because the flame got smothered.. Hope really you don't kill anyone or the poor cat that was unfortunate enough to have you for a pet......... Now spout off some more please!!!!!

Wow some people just dont want to do research, I would definitely get ur bro that Co detector for Christmas.

 

[jimbizzzale67123]

Yea I have a buddy like this. He never grew before went out got a 600w light and a giant ebb and flow hydro unit. His first grow he killed kike 3 plants and was growing them in pots that could hold maybe 4 cups of hydroten. He also thinks PPM meters are worthless, and the fact he is growing in Hydro is good enough and he doesnt need it.

Honestly I have never asked him but I dont even thinks he knows what PPM's are. He always says stupid ass shit like, "Man this unit is so amazing I could grow in just water and grow bigger plants than in soil" ummmmm no you cant bro. He doesn't care that his stems are purple and leaves are all discolored obviously hungry due too pH problems or PPM problems he really doesn't care to even find out. His first grow he cut so many leaves off I just wanted to choke him, he tried and claimed they fell off but I now the scar a leaf leaves when they fall he had cut them thinking it will make his buds gigantic.

He always says he is going to get another 600w light even though he has no digital PPM or pH meter he doesn't even want to learn anything he just wants to throw the seeds in and throw some nutes in and see what happens.

Here is the best part he thinks he can get like 3lbs off of his unit I told him many times he will have to create a pefect enviornment to get that much and even then that would be alot off of a 600W but he just doesnt get it.

He isn't religious but he reminds me of ICP's song miracles.

"Magnets how the fuck do they work"-ICP

"I don't want to talk to a scientist, ya'll Mother Fuckers be lying and getting me pissed"-ICP

I swear if anyone really thinks magnets are miracles and cant be explained well I dont know what to say. but then again anyone listening to ICP well I dont know what to say about that either.

Anyways I feel your pain dude best thing to do is too get that detector and print some info off the internet about the dangers and slip it in the box.

[video=youtube;_-agl0pOQfs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-agl0pOQfs[/video]

 

[lostmarbles]

Someone please answer or help.. This guy, pic below, says he uses this in his grow to get co2. He also says his ambient co2 without the lantern is 600ppm.. From what I know a yellow flame is burning o2 and creating lots and lots of co, carbon monoxide. It will make co2 to an extent but won't it make to much co for a grow indoors in a co2 sealed environment?? Blue flame is what I thought you would want with hardly any yellow.. Those lanterns are for light not co2. Right?? And ambient co2 is usually when high around 300ppm in a city right? I mean you have to live in pollutionville for the regular air to be 600ppm co2 yes??? I just don't think he is being honest about that do you?? Thanks...

However, you still need the CO monitor as an safety issue. Blue flames puts out more CO2 and less CO. Yellow flames is the opposite but still put out a little CO2. So, how do we make it work to get the benefits from candles/oil lamps etc with yellow flames. AND, this is from researching what gases yellow flames put out. Physics dictates that a yellow flame does have an blue at the bottom that is either invisible or barely noticeable as it's taking in O2 from the bottom. The middle of the flame is orange and then yellow at the big top of it. Why does it do that? Here's an good example website.

http://www.candles.org/candlescience.html

NASA even did an experiment in space about it. Research it. I did my own experiment and found it does helps but, not like those blue/white flames generator does. As in the picture. It's very simple. Do not believe everyone out there throwing stuffs that does not make sense. You have to try it yourself and be glad that you have found a way to save money. The drawback are that you can only do this during the light hours and only for no more than an hour at a time in a closed room with no air exchange. Then, turn off that lamp before the CO monitor starts to beep and recycle the air with fresh. Also, if you forget to recycle the air(falling asleep, car broke down before getting home to turn it off), you will kill the plants. My port a/c does that by just turning it on. This is work, so if you cannot stay on top of it then, it's no use to try this. I do this at the first light of the 12 hours, then at the end of the 12 hours light. If you really want to try a different way, get an real big bag(waterbed, airbed) and make sure your catalytic converter puts out CO2 and fill it up at the tailpipe and use that. Take a look at your next smog test results and you'll see the CO2 is higher than the CO... See what I mean? It's the research that others say that it cannot be done. HUH? Sounds like laziness to me. Been there, done that. Another way is to just get some punching balloons and fill them up while sitting there watching TV. Guess how you use those? The main reason people say that things do not work is because they are lazy, just like how they research and only find 1 thing to help their cause. Or! It could be because they do not want someone else squeezing into their profit margin. (weather it's selling MMJ, building CO2 generators and getting on here to help their profits). You figure it out!

 

[lostmarbles]

BTW! Another reason to do that several times a day on trying to get CO2 into the grow room. I also use this as an reason to check the plants for mites, etc. and fix it right away. Instead of waiting for the next feed cycle and discover problem(s) that happens quickly. Been there, done that too. So you have to experience and adapt to what works for you for certain strains, mediums, lights, etc. I found out that Blue Dream strain does not get PM even when right next to Caramelo strain that does gets it and had to spray both with B. soda and high PH water weekly. I got tired of that and now spray ahead of the situation and haven't been seeing any PM because I'm doing preventative maintenance now instead of waiting for the problem to crop up. I also use an sponge soaked with azamax in it to wrap around the base stem permanently to use as an preventative measure against mites as I have not seen any of those now instead of spraying directly on the buds. As for gnats, I use non toxic yellow ribbons under the panty hose that I use on top of the pots to keep them in there and change ribbons when have to..... No one showed me, I did the research and tried it myself. (even tho I had to clear myself off of MMJ and increase vicodin to get some of this stuff tried and done). Some things works and some things don't. What works for me does not always means it works for you. Too many variables. Now you know why some of us keep journals to see what strain, why, when and what works. This also the reason why some of these techniques are always argued about. If you are coming around to say that anyone can grow this stuff. You are right except that, will they put the effort into seeing what works for certain situations? I'm starting to sound like an old hippie now. C-YA!