theexpress
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grow sativa dom hybrids that will finish in oct. northern hemi.
Looking for Assistance on a 100 lb. Grow
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researchkitty
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Its not legal to have any anywhere. Regardless of medical vs federal or any other country. Leave your morals at the door, we know its illegal. =P
Dominathan
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Go for it! Dream big, and act big. I mean, you MAY fail. Even if you fail 25 lb's is spectacular. I'm theorized about having a mass grow too. I'd probably just try to plant like 11 Iranian G13's, and 11 Columbian Skies (Both from Dr. Greenthumb). You'd be looking at about 2.5 lbs per g13, and about 3.5 lbs per Columbian Skies. Not to mention, they are both pretty hardy strains. That's just my 2 cents! One love 
Dominathan
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Grow big or go home.
researchkitty
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How long is good to veg one party cup for?
Micromaster
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you can pull over 5lbs per plant outside, IF youre a good grower
Dominathan
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Some people have the space! Why not?
1freezy
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Your friend needs to grow/practice for a few more years if that's the result!
So true, I bet some of these people have only seen 2' to 4' plants & can't fathom 8' to 12' plants. They would shit themselves!
Dionysus
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Fox Farm seemed to be one of the best organic soil mixes. Also, distribution is the easiest part for me while harvesting and curing will definitely be the hardest. Incidentally, I've heard that some growers cut the plant off at the bottom stalk and hang the whole plant to dry. Then, after the plant completely dies they start clipping and curing. Have you ever heard about this or its effectiveness?
How can I be full of shit, when I'm looking for advice?
Thank youI'd bet he's either really wanting to do it, but doesnt realize what he wants. When you have a weight goal, it means you have a profit goal mostly, with little knowledge of HOW to grow that weight. If you grew at a minimum a few cycles before, you'd have a really good idea how many plants you'll need, how much space you'll need, and what types of things you'd want to improve over previous grows.
As soon as the poster listed the strains (Yuck) and then the 10 plots of land with 6 plants on a plot, it was pretty clear he's setup to fail.
My advice - grow small, learn what your doing first. If you have already done this, you just did a very poor job explaining to us what you were after.
That's exactly what I'm going to do.
Exactly, but I have good feeling it will turn out nicely.Go for it! Dream big, and act big. I mean, you MAY fail. Even if you fail 25 lb's is spectacular. I'm theorized about having a mass grow too. I'd probably just try to plant like 11 Iranian G13's, and 11 Columbian Skies (Both from Dr. Greenthumb). You'd be looking at about 2.5 lbs per g13, and about 3.5 lbs per Columbian Skies. Not to mention, they are both pretty hardy strains. That's just my 2 cents! One love
AmenGrow big or go home.
UncleBuck
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i recently got to trim for a dude who had a greenhouse full of 8-12 footers, with a couple of 16 foot sativas.
i DID shit myself.
as to the op, change your plans as you WILL fail or get busted with the plan you've articulated. you need to plan WAY more plants as many will fail or get ripped. you need less plants per spot and more spots. you need to find these spots now and check out the traffic they get. any decent soil will do as long as you know what you're doing. also, do you have an army to help you trim? how about transport bags and bags and bags and bags full of weed through remote locations? how about getting the dirt and the plants out there? how about maintenance and upkeep? how the hell do you plan to conquer these obvious obstacle?
i need to hear your plans for these things before my skepticism is put to bed.
I don't mean to be critical....... just your questions are more "beginner" questions, not someone who is about to attempt a 100 lb. grow. People with alot of experience can read thru and smell the fumes. Sooooo many people think growing is easy- "it's just a weed". I hear it all the time. My last comment is your 2nd big grow will end up much better than your first, as you can make adjustments, and learn from prior mistakes.
Getting enough water to your plants will be your biggest issue- especially in July/August when it may not rain for weeks. Big plants need alot of water and 60 plants, outside in the sun, may need watering daily or every other day.
Getting enough water to your plants will be your biggest issue- especially in July/August when it may not rain for weeks. Big plants need alot of water and 60 plants, outside in the sun, may need watering daily or every other day.
SCCA
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wow! so many nay sayers!! i regularly pull 2lbs+ off a plant out doors. the "secret" is to veg it b4 putting it out. if you veg a plant to fill a 5g pot and plant it out in May it will get enormous. but huge plants drink a ton of water. easily 15 to 20 gallons a day by mid summer. thats over 1200 gallons of water and ferts you are going to need. also you need BIG holes or very rich soil. Are you intending to amend the native soil or remove it and replace it with a bagged soil? is this a guerrilla grow or is it just going to be spread over your property? remember taking care of 3 or 4 huge plants is a lot of work, to maintain a grow that size you are going to need help. if it was all in one patch you may be able to care for it if you work from sun up to sun down every day. how do you intend to get water to the plants? if you have to haul everything out there on you back you are in for a shock! and a trip to the chiropractor.
you plan isnt infeasible but its going to be a miracle to pull it off alone. more power to you! where are you located? what is the soil like where you intend to grow? that is going to be the major influence as to what you use to prep the soil. also if you want to grow organic you are going to need to start prepping your sites soon, they need at least 30 days to "cook"
you plan isnt infeasible but its going to be a miracle to pull it off alone. more power to you! where are you located? what is the soil like where you intend to grow? that is going to be the major influence as to what you use to prep the soil. also if you want to grow organic you are going to need to start prepping your sites soon, they need at least 30 days to "cook"
Snow Crash
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I think the real question is how much will be invested. 60 plants, 3cuft per plant of potting soil (and that is a meager estimate) is 180cuft of soil. That is going to be a good $2,500 and it could easily quadruple to 12cuft per plant.
Then you need the infrastructure to support these plants. I assume you're not going to be carrying all this water to them, so we're talking about some kind of LARGE reservoir of water and probably a pump and hose system to deliver the water. There's another couple thousand. You need the land for them to grow on too, no sense in growing all this in a State Park or on someone else's land. All your eggs in someone else's basket is probably a worse idea.
Sourcing the genetics is another thing. Gotta have a place to keep them before they are planted. Don't forget the agricultural plastic stuff to keep them warm during the early spring months.
The list just goes on and on.
Check out what HumboldtLocal (google: humboldtlocal's outdoor 2010) does. If you can imitate his set up you might have success. But be honest with yourself. This could easily be a $10,000 investment to do it right if the infrastructure isn't already present. We're talking about a farm, a field of plants, and not just a couple randoms kept near a mountain stream on a south face.
Prepare to spend at least the 10K but also understand that the risk of this business is that mold, rippers, or the gov't can come and take it all away any time. So now we're talking about herbicides, pesticides, dogs, and security measures... additional expenses. When you break it all down, like if I were to start this from scratch with nothing but cash... I imagine I'd need at least $200,000 to buy the land and set up the greenhouses and the fields.
Seriously man, this shit isn't as easy as putting some seeds in some potting soil and pulling 100 pounds. You have to build the infrastructure, then you have to protect it from everything from snails to people. Sure, the return on a $10,000 to $20,000 investment is a one time harvest of what could be $250,000 and future harvests built on an existing setup will drive costs down and profit up.
If you REALLY want to do this then you need to get planning now. Get your greenhouse set up so you can get your genetics growing in there by March. If you're not completely ready to go, financially and battle plan, by the end of March then you're going to miss your target. From now until then get your game face on and do a little more homework man. Follow in the footsteps of others who have done this.
Bottom line though... The last thing you need to worry about is "how to use fox farms soil." Do you know how to use ANY soil at all, regardless of the brand? Do you actually understand how organics work, what microbes do what job and why it is important? Without a fundamental concept of humics and the rhizosphere (root zone ecosystem), and proper nutrition schedules, you are setting yourself up for failure.
Educate yourself man. You're asking the wrong questions... If you get what I mean.
Then you need the infrastructure to support these plants. I assume you're not going to be carrying all this water to them, so we're talking about some kind of LARGE reservoir of water and probably a pump and hose system to deliver the water. There's another couple thousand. You need the land for them to grow on too, no sense in growing all this in a State Park or on someone else's land. All your eggs in someone else's basket is probably a worse idea.
Sourcing the genetics is another thing. Gotta have a place to keep them before they are planted. Don't forget the agricultural plastic stuff to keep them warm during the early spring months.
The list just goes on and on.
Check out what HumboldtLocal (google: humboldtlocal's outdoor 2010) does. If you can imitate his set up you might have success. But be honest with yourself. This could easily be a $10,000 investment to do it right if the infrastructure isn't already present. We're talking about a farm, a field of plants, and not just a couple randoms kept near a mountain stream on a south face.
Prepare to spend at least the 10K but also understand that the risk of this business is that mold, rippers, or the gov't can come and take it all away any time. So now we're talking about herbicides, pesticides, dogs, and security measures... additional expenses. When you break it all down, like if I were to start this from scratch with nothing but cash... I imagine I'd need at least $200,000 to buy the land and set up the greenhouses and the fields.
Seriously man, this shit isn't as easy as putting some seeds in some potting soil and pulling 100 pounds. You have to build the infrastructure, then you have to protect it from everything from snails to people. Sure, the return on a $10,000 to $20,000 investment is a one time harvest of what could be $250,000 and future harvests built on an existing setup will drive costs down and profit up.
If you REALLY want to do this then you need to get planning now. Get your greenhouse set up so you can get your genetics growing in there by March. If you're not completely ready to go, financially and battle plan, by the end of March then you're going to miss your target. From now until then get your game face on and do a little more homework man. Follow in the footsteps of others who have done this.
Bottom line though... The last thing you need to worry about is "how to use fox farms soil." Do you know how to use ANY soil at all, regardless of the brand? Do you actually understand how organics work, what microbes do what job and why it is important? Without a fundamental concept of humics and the rhizosphere (root zone ecosystem), and proper nutrition schedules, you are setting yourself up for failure.
Educate yourself man. You're asking the wrong questions... If you get what I mean.
dudemandigo
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I had a huge outdoor mountain grow op completely fail after lugging over 1500lbs of soil, nutes, fences, water, + greenhouse, miles up the mountain; because i misunderstood vital parts to the total picture of a huge grow.
i learned my lessen and paid 5 grand for it...my point is, it goes beyond just doing research, some things you can only learn by doing it...start small then gradually get bigger grows!
i learned my lessen and paid 5 grand for it...my point is, it goes beyond just doing research, some things you can only learn by doing it...start small then gradually get bigger grows!
SCCA
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@Snow Crash, you are exactly right. but i have see complete idiots pull incredible hauls from hundreds of beans and persevering. it always makes me jealous when this happens but it does the quality is crap but they profit.
IMO if you got the money to blow and balls to do it, go for it but dont be surprised if it blows up in your face. set aside 25k for legal fees and hope for the best. i would hope someone that would be willing to come on this forum and ask for advice has at least considered the scope of what they are undertaking, this dude is looking for direction to avoid mistakes that have been made before.
dionysus if you want to send me a pm and we can talk some specifics to get you started in the right direction.
IMO if you got the money to blow and balls to do it, go for it but dont be surprised if it blows up in your face. set aside 25k for legal fees and hope for the best. i would hope someone that would be willing to come on this forum and ask for advice has at least considered the scope of what they are undertaking, this dude is looking for direction to avoid mistakes that have been made before.
dionysus if you want to send me a pm and we can talk some specifics to get you started in the right direction.
jrinlv
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In my opinion if you are just putting the plants out and not wanting to basically live near you plants, you have to pplan on a 50% loss minimal. That's without a fence and daily (or very close to) checkups.
I would not want to try to harvest that much at once, remember slow and steady wins the race..Good luck JR
I would not want to try to harvest that much at once, remember slow and steady wins the race..Good luck JR