My Current set up: journal?

[kevin]

grows like yours are my inspiration!! thanks vv




my first grow
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/46705-my-first-horticulture-experiment.html

 

[VictorVIcious]

grows like yours are my inspiration!! thanks vv




my first grow
https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/46705-my-first-horticulture-experiment.html

thanx for the compliment. Al B Fuct was the inspiration for it, and the one thing that will remain constant is that it will change.
Its time to get some opinions on how this grow is going. These are plants off the 'test table'. The first on is a WW clone taken on 10/12. Its 26" tall with a 9-10" main cola. You can see the amount of fan leaves and lower shoots, maybe I should have trimmed them more?? The second one is about the same except it was taken on 9/22. The third plant is Crystal aboput 18" tall. Turn the page...... VV

 

[VictorVIcious]

Here we go, on the road again.....
Plant 3 is WW clone taken on 9/22 and is typical of about 1/2 of the plants. It's not exhibiting any main cola, more like 3 or 4 'Large' bud sites and I'm hoping you can see some of the smaller bud site in this top shot. Some of them are 7 or 8" lower than the top buds. They are just everywhere. What should I have done different?? Almost forgot this one is only 23" tall. I have included a picture of what the bottom of the table looks like. I think I should have maybe trimmed some more of this lower growth out, you can see that weak t-5 light is hitting the algae covers though.
The last picture is a close up of the Crystal, don't know if it will show up enough to see. Its just all little 'crystal buds' everywhere, again no clearly defined main cola.
All of these plants are just about 10 weeks flowering now, so they do have two weeks to go. I don't think this would be a good time to trim more off the bottom. Any thoughts?? VV

 

[dylster88]

nice good job man im not going to lie im jealous.

 

[VictorVIcious]

nice good job man im not going to lie im jealous.

thanks for the compliment. Someone reped my for this thread and didn't leave a name. Since this is the first time it has happened I would like to know who? VV

 

[VictorVIcious]

Here's the deal. Saturday Night everything seems fine. Sunday night the plant on the left in this first picture looked like the plant on the right. Leaves looked completly limp overnight, so I pulled it, flushed in and set it under low light. This is Monday, the plant from the left is dry, dead, the branches are almost like dry ready to cure. A close up of the one on the right shows how dead these leaves are and thats in one day. The plant in the Middle is the one that was closest to these two plants and appears healthy. The last picture show what the almost dead plant loos like after I cut off the dead fan leaves, and as you can see there aren't any fan leaves left. I put it under low light and when I looked at it this morning it hadn't died anymore since last night. This is an Ice plant 6 weeks flowering, not near maturity, and I am totally lost.
I did of course tear the pot apart looking for some explanation of what might have caused this, and I didn't find anything out of the ordinary. The medium is coco coir with about 1" of dry rockwool flock on the top, a little experiment to see if it will control fungus knats. Everything looked normal there, nice roots, medium moist around the merristem.
Any ideas?? VV

 

[fiona]

Thanks Vic for taking the time to share all your info. I am in the process of planning my future grow. I'm the kind of person who needs to plan out my attack before I start. I was all ready to go with a 600w digital HPS system in a 4x4 grow tent when I came across your thread. It has really got me thinking, hummmm T5's. Do you think if I put two of those 8 lamp bad boys in a 4x4 tent I could push out a pound per month?

 

[VictorVIcious]

Thanks Vic for taking the time to share all your info. I am in the process of planning my future grow. I'm the kind of person who needs to plan out my attack before I start. I was all ready to go with a 600w digital HPS system in a 4x4 grow tent when I came across your thread. It has really got me thinking, hummmm T5's. Do you think if I put two of those 8 lamp bad boys in a 4x4 tent I could push out a pound per month?

I think they will perform better than one 600watt light, the question would be can you provide the flowering plants to feed the system. I have three of the t-5's and one 400 watt hps in my operation. The strains I grow have a 12 week flowering time. The key would be the rest of the production line to get to the last table. If you have a strain the flowers in less time then you wouldn't need the same space to produce it, like sweet tooth or blueberry. VV

 

[fiona]

Yeah I have a separate system idea for the mothers and clones. I've ordered some White Widow seeds which are meant to take 8-9 weeks to flower. But you are saying 12 right? I'm curious as to what size pots you are using? Also, if you kept the veg time to a minimum and kept the plants low, could you pack a whole bunch more in the same space, or would that have an adverse effect on your yield?
Thanks man

Michigan Rocks!

 

[VictorVIcious]

I am saying the strain I have flowers for at least 12 weeks, and if I remember correctly that was what the information from the seed bank said as well, not all of them take that long. Many of them are more satavia dominant than the ones I have.
I use 8" pots that are close to one gallon size. Yes I could do that, I could put 24 in pots that size on the tables. I could probably put forty on there in 6" rockwool blocks. I have seen posts from knowledgable 'plant' folks that say you will get the same yeild off the table no matter how many plants you have on it. I'm trying to test that theory for myself. I think the 12 plants I have on those tables now is going to give me the same yield I got with 20. I am switching strain so after I harvest this next table I will be going down to 9 plants or less per table. I have noticed that they will fill up the available space.
I also noticed the Thread posted today by Garden Knowm. 9 plants per table. Hmmm. VV

 

[VictorVIcious]

Pictures, we like pictures, got any pictures?? Well, godafew. This first picture, the twin towers, if anyone has any input on maturity please share, as I have stated I am partially color blind, I could use the help.
The next ones are just shots of the tables. Both heat and humidity are necessary in MIchigan. VV

 

[PlasmaRadio]

I hate when you post pics... it makes me feel insignificant and small. I just want some massive buds!

 

[fiona]

I'm curious what you think of this bad boy?
Arrrgghhh! Worlds colliding!

Buy 516W 4ft. HPS/T5 Spectra Max Grow Light Lights Here!

 

[PlasmaRadio]

Too expensive. You could buy 8 4ft fixtures for that cost, and still have money leftover to bolt it to a metal frame.

 

[fiona]

I've seen them cheaper, it was just a good pic on that one.

 

[PlasmaRadio]

Fo' Real?

Well, it isn't bad then. Good lumen to power ratio.

 

[LoudBlunts]

it must be real tasty in MI for you sir. looking good.


say vic....what do you think about aeroponic and coco?

 

[VictorVIcious]

I was standing in Wally World the other day thinking just that, what about aero or DWC etc. and coco. Could you line net pots with the coco mats the have to line hanging plant baskets to stop the coco-coir from washing into the reses. Will they allow the roots to grow thru?
The advantage is that the coco is a better insulator than any of the other mediums when they are all wet so high water temps are tolerated for a short period of time. I would rather use the coco because recycling it into my outdoor plants makes sense.

I haven't built an aero system and before I do I am going to look at a setup someone I consider an expert is using, probably in the next week or so. After that I may experiment a little with a small amount of plants to see how it would work. My problem would be investing in the meters etc. that I would need, the only thing I use for my flood and drain is the BlueLab Truncheon and that will not be enough equipment to properly monitor a aero system. I think you may have to take the lead on this one. VV

 

[LoudBlunts]

Victor, i think me and you are on the same page, almost the exact same page!


but i think i have a solution to something better than the coco mats. You do know they have the cocotek netpots right? so im thinking to just use a regular netpot with a coco pot dropped in, filled with coco.

The only problem i can possibly see is wondering if have the coco constantly wet would cause a problem. Im in between on this one, because as long as the water is oxygenated, it should be fine. On the other hand, coco can hold alot of water.

if not, i would clone in rapidrooters or coco starter pots, drop a coco pot into a netpot and fill with coco

(the aeroponic in my mind would be something like fletch's 30 min aero tub build)

i think it would work, what about you?

 

[VictorVIcious]

GO for it, show that it works. I am still going to stick with what I am doing. I want to finish the rest of the plan first, get the additional lights (led's) set up another table and start a new strain. I will have to get a carbon scrubber, air conditioner and dehumidifier by summer. then I might get on that page. VV