SCROG OFF!! New school vs old school. Sealed rooms- 12 plants.

frogster

frogster

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Hey Cruzer thx for swinging by... From what I understand You either cut the lower foliage early or after stretch. I was planning on a light trim after stretch.. If you have a different viewpoint please explain or point me towards a link...Thx..
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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Boomer, just out of slight room envy I'm going to give you shit till I see some actual plants. The first installment " that room is for show, not grow"

Jimbro, fuck DWC. Nuff said.

Ohh my little froggie, you haven't trimmed yet? Legally is already done trimming and clearing out bud starts and stagily bud shoots that will never amount to anything. He did it in stages prior to the flip and in the first week. Guess you will just have to trim and stress the plant while it is setting flowers.

Wait, what is that light in the distance? I can barely read it...i think it says 1 gram/watt. Hard to tell as it is slowly fading into the distance getting smaller an smaller


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RawBudzski

RawBudzski

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DWC is King and TAKES THE MAN CHEESE !!!!

legallyflying said:
Boomer, just out of slight room envy I'm going to give you shit till I see some actual plants. The first installment " that room is for show, not grow"

Jimbro, fuck DWC. Nuff said.

Ohh my little froggie, you haven't trimmed yet? Legally is already done trimming and clearing out bud starts and stagily bud shoots that will never amount to anything. He did it in stages prior to the flip and in the first week. Guess you will just have to trim and stress the plant while it is setting flowers.

Wait, what is that light in the distance? I can barely read it...i think it says 2 gram/watt. Hard to tell as it is slowly fading into the distance getting smaller an smaller


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frogster

frogster

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Well?????, Should I stress them now while finishing stretch? effecting the stretch? I planned on just right after stretch.... I had my light a little close (8')last night after they grew from the night before , they love to stretch in the dark, so I raised it a little (10") guess it wasnt enough...see pic. or shit? now im wondering if its a calcium deficiency??? The humbolts doesnt have much calcium and I have been over 5.7 (up to 6.0) for several days...
 

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legallyflying

legallyflying

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It looks like herpes. Have you been doing inappropriate things with the lights off? How well do you know your recent conquest?

Seriously though, it could be calcium but I have to look at a dichotomous key to figure out problems. 10" seems close for a 1k but if they were heat stressed the leaves would start to fold or twist.

I would trim a little now (have fun with that chicken wire) and then trim a little more in a few days. If you see a thin shoot with a bud start in it ( especially if it's starting from the base) just get rid of it. You ever see an apple tree that never went through a spring storm or been pruned? There are TONS of apples..but they never get big enough to ever eat or ripen. Same situation here.

You may want to raise the lights and decrease night time temps to induce a little more stretch and get them above the screen a little more.

Set your ph at 5.5 when you mix fresh nutes and don't fuck with it till it hits 6.2-6.5. THEN knock it back down. Let it float around.
 
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cruzer101

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Well, if you would like to know what I would do, First I would tie back the tall shoots to make an even canopy and get some wire cutters and snip the screen in a couple places so I could get my hand under there. Then I would reposition what lower stuff I could to reach light in the screen. Then cut off the stuff that's not going to pass the screen. what ever grows over 6 inches above the screen gets tied back during stretch. Keep tying until you see buds forming or like the third week of 12/12. Then I would pretty much let the go. I would keep my ppms around 600 during this time and once they kick in, like week 5 of 12/12 I would give it a boost like 900 ppm then see what happens, if it burns go back to 600 if not run it at 900 or so.

If you would like to see my scrog grows they are in the cabinet journals. They are only 400w grows HPS and CMH. links in sig.

Good luck man.
 
BoomerBloomer57

BoomerBloomer57

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Hey legallyf,,,,,,,,,,

For you, Stem shots from todays harvest.

Now if you were nice and not so skeptical I'd show ya how much bud came from this stem.
 
frogster

frogster

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Thx cruzer and Legal, Its a calcium def. entering 3rd week of flowering.. The night temps drop down to 60-62,,, they are stretching like mad right now... I picked up humboldts equalibrium ... 1-1-2 its 12% calcium and 2%mag with a little iron ,, I will foliar feed and add this to the rez.1ml/gal with 4ml/gal Hygrozyme.... Tying down the larger shoots ,,, hmm, ok,, I will,, I have beeen pulling up the smaller ones, I have a nice spaced out screen that has something about everywhere, just uneven heights... I will start trimming the lower mess up, and anything growing out from the lower part of the shoots, and add 1 drop per gallon superthrive to help recover from the hacking..... Damn, this sounds like a long night ahead..... Glad to see some pics that give Legals a run for his money..... Guess I will hack at the supercropped girls also,,,, they are not stretching as much as the scrogged shoots,,, and some of the shoots have developed flowering 8-12" below the top! might get a few monsters....
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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If your typical night time drops down to 60 you need to be adding a space heater. That is way to big of a difference. I would save the hygrozyme. Not really needed and I'm njot sure what its going to do to benefit you, that shit is expensive. I'm planning on using it in the first couple weeks on the next cycle but that is only to eat all the dead roots from the last run.

Foliar feed good. Use a good wetting agent and spray with the lights on.
 
ENDLSCYCLE

ENDLSCYCLE

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My max highs are 78*F and min lows 58*....and I love Hygrozyme...use it every feed...I will stop using it around week 5-6 of my 10week strain....I can't believe I haven't been using it all along.....I got it on my last grow right at the switch of 12/12 and used it after the fist month of veg on this one....my current grow started to show a little yellowing around the leaf tips like yours in the pic...a week after using, it was all cleared up....amino acids are the shit!!!!!
 
frogster

frogster

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Yea, the humbolts is very strong at 600-800ppm... With all the bennies and enzymes (hygrozyme) im hoping to help my my roots..I can do three rez changes with it ($20). My vegg was horrible and my roots are not what they should be... A nice cleaning of dead material may get them to be where they need to be.. That 1gram a watt figure is taunting me....Gotta do it, no matter what anyone says.... Focus, Focus... Legal, Your temps are much higher than mine and you shouldnt drop to 60-62, everywhere I read ( Jorge Cervantes,, http://books.google.com/books?id=rnwwxoOb3gUC&pg=PA179&lpg=PA179&dq=temperature+drop+marijuana&source=bl&ots=6hXLi0DGmu&sig=a6DELPsmx-1hLLaSqEfMjsGxNzI&hl=en&ei=YgdCTeaYHpLpgAfGh8SzAQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CCQQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=temperature drop marijuana&f=false ) said up to 15 degree drop is good... Fill a brotha' in if you know different.
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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I hope I don't get banned for saying this...fuck Jorge.

He can eat DWC man cheese for all I care. :)

Look in the advanced forum fir a recent thread called temps and co2. Look for the links. Great articles on temps!
 
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