i guess we'll agree to disagree, but i will make a few other points. the original og is indeed an s1 seed (bagseed), and you are correct on it being chem, they hadnt started calling it diesel yet when it went west. i called my buddy last night who i got my cuts from to go over some of these details. him and his "bros" have been working with these genetics since they found thier way east 20 years ago. they are part of the original albany crew and still have the original cuts. we can all agree that thier is def some indica traits (affie), but it does not in any way show indica dom other than tightness of buds and some flavors. we all seem to agree that the structer of the plant is more of a sativa. not trying to get into a pissing match with you stone, but these are thoughts and opions of the guys who started this thing out east. their whole point is, they dont even know the true genetics, so for people to be calling it the some of the best kush, it's just not the case. again, my point for the original poster, 323, is that their are real kush genetics out there for a true kush head. peace and pot