It has plant growth retardants in it, so I would not use it in your case.whats in bush master is organic our chems????? im trying to grow all natural and would like to use the sea green method
I use purple maxx, gravity, and bushmaster and love em.
I just chopped down 2 out of 4 of my sativa's growing in a 4x5 box under a 400 watt hps and a 6 bulb 4 foot T5 in blue spectrum with additional CFL's.
I pulled 10 oz off one plant! and 1 off the runt- she was burried under the others. And I still have 2 more plants to go- one which will probably yield 6-7 ounces! And compared to my last run with this landrace sativa, Hawaiian snow, it is much denser- much crystalier, and the plants stayed managable. Except for the 10oz monster bitch. She was hard to tame. Damn crazy landrace's.
I finally hit the G a watt measure. Actually I'll beat it when my other 2 come down
At what point did you start using gravity? I keep hearing different things... use at the 3rd week of flower... use again at the 6th week, use with half strength nutrients, use it by its self... Can you advise how you used it successfully?
As usual UB you just chime in to argue in every thread pretty much. Shit works, get over it. I guess Bushmaster doesnt work either or Snow Storm. I could tell you about the hundreds of side by side comparisons I have with these but I already know you will shoot it down so I wont bother. You constantly brag about your avatar lol. I have buds that big on plants 18 inches tall. I can grow buds that big without these additives but with them they are much harder, heavier, frostier but you go get em with your Walmart nutes big fella.......I see this has been resurrected from the dead. I just happen to be getting a quart of Bonzi and while researching PGRs found this, which corroborates my warnings to you guys who fall for anything someone claims to "work". http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/floriculture/Rx/PGR Overdose Guide.pdf
Only sound, basic culture "works" and will produce "rock hard" buds, witness my avatar which was grown with some cheap organics and a box of plant food bought at Walmart.
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You journaled marginal looking plants that were supposedly planted into 100 gallon pots (as if that will somehow bring you "greatness"), plants which you failed to pull off going to harvest, asked for advice while fishing for reader affirmation in the thread, acknowledged that you use Advanced Shysters kiddie stuff, worked and spent your ass off regarding maintenance and expense..... and wanna convince me you're on the right track?Shit works, get over it. I guess Bushmaster doesnt work either or Snow Storm. I could tell you about the hundreds of side by side comparisons I have with these but I already know you will shoot it down so I wont bother. You constantly brag about your avatar lol. I have buds that big on plants 18 inches tall. I can grow buds that big without these additives but with them they are much harder, heavier, frostier but you go get em with your Walmart nutes big fella.......
The link was all about applications of PGR...... shit-fer-brains. Nice attempt at deflecting the point.Another Poser said:Ok here is the setup.
Ten 100 gallon Smart Pots filled with 9 bags of Roots Organic soil each. Will be using Advanced Nutrients A&B for veg and bloom along with some Organic teas all fed on drip lines for really good deep soaks.
I am growing mostly Blue Dream. A couple Cheese. A Lemon Thai Skunk and a couple Agent Oranges. Also have a Pot of Gold in a 45 gallon Smart. Also have a Salmon Creek Big Bud going into a 65 gallon Smart but it is only about 1 foot tall and
Wow some serious weak sauce UB, as usual *sigh*. Yeah the topic was about APPLICATION of PGRs not MISAPPLICATION which is exactly what the lame link you incorectly posted was talking about . Like that some how makes them bad lol. You used it to try and prove some kind of point. All you proved was that you are for a fact so short sighted you can only see/read what you want to. It CLEARLY stated MISAPPICATION and showed the results. If you misuse ANY nutes you can fuck your shit up..... for someone who thinks books are gods right hand man for growing MJ you dont seem to comprehend what you read very well.You journaled marginal looking plants that were supposedly planted into 100 gallon pots (as if that will somehow bring you "greatness"), plants which you failed to pull off going to harvest, asked for advice while fishing for reader affirmation in the thread, acknowledged that you use Advanced Shysters kiddie stuff, worked and spent your ass off regarding maintenance and expense..... and wanna convince me you're on the right track?
The link was all about applications of PGR...... shit-fer-brains. Nice attempt at deflecting the point.
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No offense but that is one of the poorest looking buds I have ever seen. Super airy, terrible bud structure and quality looks like it matches. You tried to make some lame point by trying to pick apart my outdoor grow from last year, while the only point you made is that you are great at grasping for straws. I was simply proving my grow turned out great. You seem to be so focused on being frugal that your quality is suffering. Try picking a middle ground , that is what I have done and my results speak for themself. I find it very amusing that you always talk like you are gods gift to pot growing and then you post a picture to put someone in place that shows you have a LOT left to learn.So we're now into a chest beating drill. OK, the following is one main cola of 4 on a SATIVA dom hybrid, a nickel's worth of a 10 month 18-6-8 slow release fertilizer (Polyon brand) mixed into some dirt, 3 gallon pot. Using anything over a 5 gallon pot and a dime's worth of nutes suggests one's ineptness when it comes to knowing what makes a plant tick.
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Well this is really funny UB. I have you in my sights now =) I know you are so much more intelligent then all of us sheep in here but I'll let you in on a little secret.It all "works" mainly based on your belief system, popular thought, trends, wallet, etc.
I measure a person's savvy, intelligence, and experience by what they wish to believe and what they end up buying.
Having said that, here's an example of value, and something that is used in the commercial nursery trade to reduce plant height, it's bonafide with a posted guaranteed analysis and a label that must be followed or you're breaking the law and subjected to fines. Just delivered to me door for $109.00. It's enough product to treat thousands of plants numerous times. If anyone posted during the days of OG, you will remember Erliquin who used paclobutrazol religiously on his hydro grown plants. Erl's claims was not only did paclo decrease internode spacing but he claimed it increased flower production.
Now, many pages later, and I don't believe reading about the active ingredient in Bushmaster, nor does this herd seem to care.
What's ironical is these marketing gurus (Humboldt, Canna, Advanced Shysters, etc.) are out to screw you any which way they can as you sit there thinking they are truly on your side just because it's cannabis related. They've found an unsophisticated, young naive culture who holds a similiar belief system and are gonna tap this group for everything they can.
4 oz of watered snake oil for only $22 (plus shipping), hah! http://www.atlantishydroponics.com/Other-Non-Organic/Humboldt-Nutrients-Bushmaster-4-oz.asp
After doing a Google search (trying to find the guaranteed analysis which Humboldt chooses to hide) found this thread: http://www.gardenscure.com/420/plant-food-nutrients/107099-bushmaster-information-thread.html One poster said paclo, the assumed active ingredient, has been found to be carcinogenic (which I tend to dispute due to the hormonal action and the extremely low app dosage), another said it does contain paclo. One ad says it's just a very weak extract of sea kelp and an "earth friendly" product by one vendor who caters to the eco-wackos. :green:
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No, confirms you as the spinmeister you are. Not you or anyone else has given me a bonafide link to what the active ingredient is in Bushmaster, and "super concentrated" doesn't mean squat to me. Nice try. Your nice little link did not divulge the amount of paclo in your miracle product either, and to think the firm you're buying from has more credibility than the well established giant Syngenta is laughable.So for under 20bux US you can make about 27L which is about enough to mix up 9000 Gal of nutrient solution...
According to you this makes me far more intelligent since I am spending so much less. Enjoy your $110 snake oil =)
Of course it is, well, probably, of course......probably the same ingredient. Bushmaster is SUPER concentrated as well.
Ya think? Be careful.....might get some of those yellowing and tiny chlorotic leaves. Most likely not as it is so watered down it will have little to no real world affect.1 ML a gal is actually a strong dose.
Bullshit.....Same shit is in Phosphoload at $120 a quart. No proof its in Bushmaster but most people think it is and I agree. They just dont want their secret ingredient to be known and did a good job of hiding it. Paclobutrazol is a carcinogenic too =(