Uncle Ben
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I never said this topping method is "better". I said it is what I do and gave my reasons for doing it.
Uncle Ben's Topping Technique to Get 2 or 4 Main Colas
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smoke n strum
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Hello UB, I have been lurking your threads for about three weeks and have read 300 or more pages. This is a great thread and i wanted to thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise with all the folks on this site and elsewhere i'm sure. I just typed a message to add to this thread and spent about an hour doing it and when i went to add my pics it deleted the message for the second time, so i guess i'll just send this and try to figure the pic thing out later.
I like the common sense, scientific approach you take toward growing this plant. I was first introduced to pot in 1971, and well, I liked it. lol. I have grown one outdoor plant in 1982 or 83 I think, and in spite my ignorance of growing technique and lack of attention to the plant, it grew, matured and was smoked and it was some bad ass weed. My point is, this plant is tough and not hard to grow. Growing indoors makes a big difference since you have to actually create the environment for the plant though, but it is still not that mystical as the nute sellers would have you believe.
So now I have an indoor grow going that is about a month old. I'm growing in a tent 4'x2'x5'tall. 400 watt HID dig ballast, currently MH bulb, have hps for when i go 12/12. I tried to germinate some bagseeds I got last summer and literally combed through the carpet i my stash closet to find seeds down in the carpet that I have dropped over the last 10 years or more. I attempted about 35 seeds and 11 (i think) germed. Of those, three just stopped growing after the cotyledons came up, so whether its user error, or just bad seeds, i don't know, but i have germed plenty of seeds over the years and never had this big of a failure rate. I am a vegetable grower too, so I sort of know what I'm doing, but nowhere near like you and riddlme and a bunch of others do.
I am completely amazed at all the hype, (superstition almost that surrounds the pot growing community). Basically, I am a cynical SOB, and a cheapskate that was raised by parents that grew up during the great depression. How in the world do these sheep believe all these charlatans selling their snake oil. When I see the videos like Big Mike with Advanced nutrients and that gangster looking sidekick of his plying their wares it makes me laugh. I don't see how people can believe their BS. It is a complete joke to me. Give me some air, water, soil, and sunlight, and I will grow you some weed. That's how i see it. I spent 25 bucks on enough fertilizer to grow plants in my tent for 10 years and probably still have some left over. Wtf people! wake up. I guarantee you J.R Peters has forgotten more about how to grow a plant than Big Mike or Fox Farms or any of these Marijuana fert sellers will ever know. Ok done ranting.
Uncle Ben thanks, I will continue reading and if I can figure this pic thing out, I'll show you my plants. rep+ bro. take care
I like the common sense, scientific approach you take toward growing this plant. I was first introduced to pot in 1971, and well, I liked it. lol. I have grown one outdoor plant in 1982 or 83 I think, and in spite my ignorance of growing technique and lack of attention to the plant, it grew, matured and was smoked and it was some bad ass weed. My point is, this plant is tough and not hard to grow. Growing indoors makes a big difference since you have to actually create the environment for the plant though, but it is still not that mystical as the nute sellers would have you believe.
So now I have an indoor grow going that is about a month old. I'm growing in a tent 4'x2'x5'tall. 400 watt HID dig ballast, currently MH bulb, have hps for when i go 12/12. I tried to germinate some bagseeds I got last summer and literally combed through the carpet i my stash closet to find seeds down in the carpet that I have dropped over the last 10 years or more. I attempted about 35 seeds and 11 (i think) germed. Of those, three just stopped growing after the cotyledons came up, so whether its user error, or just bad seeds, i don't know, but i have germed plenty of seeds over the years and never had this big of a failure rate. I am a vegetable grower too, so I sort of know what I'm doing, but nowhere near like you and riddlme and a bunch of others do.
I am completely amazed at all the hype, (superstition almost that surrounds the pot growing community). Basically, I am a cynical SOB, and a cheapskate that was raised by parents that grew up during the great depression. How in the world do these sheep believe all these charlatans selling their snake oil. When I see the videos like Big Mike with Advanced nutrients and that gangster looking sidekick of his plying their wares it makes me laugh. I don't see how people can believe their BS. It is a complete joke to me. Give me some air, water, soil, and sunlight, and I will grow you some weed. That's how i see it. I spent 25 bucks on enough fertilizer to grow plants in my tent for 10 years and probably still have some left over. Wtf people! wake up. I guarantee you J.R Peters has forgotten more about how to grow a plant than Big Mike or Fox Farms or any of these Marijuana fert sellers will ever know. Ok done ranting.
Uncle Ben thanks, I will continue reading and if I can figure this pic thing out, I'll show you my plants. rep+ bro. take care
smoke n strum
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Thanks Daniels, I'll give that a try manana. (thats tomorrow in american) thanks a bunch 4 the help. should I do a +rep for you now. I need to learn how to do things on this site. Like +rep. I am finding this site very hard to navigate, and figure out what makes it tick. like +rep for example. I know it's good, but I don't know when I am supposed to give that to someone etc. sns
Danielsgb
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It takes a bit to figure out. You only get to rep someone once for a long time, so I kinda save them for a harvest I've followed. You should put your name in there so they know who gave it to them. Save giving me a rep until I help you with something else. Just helping you post a pic isn't worthy.
Daniels
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smoke n strum
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The largest one is about a month old and three have been topped and I'm trying to get three clones going. A bunch are not germinating.
It is what it is, not perfect, but I am working on it.
It is what it is, not perfect, but I am working on it.
smoke n strum
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I went too big on my pots too soon. I figured it would be less stressful for the plants if i only transplanted one time, but i wish i had not done that now. It makes it too hard to judge the watering. The top of the pots dry out and there is still a lot of water in the bottom.Plants are still too small to drink that much i guess. opinions welcomed. Plus I need the room so i can get more plants going in case it turns out to be a dude fest after i turn them to flower. Grow and learn. I also followed the directions on a bottle of Medina hastogrow 6-12-6 organic fertilizer. It says to use an ounce per gallon for transplanting. I now know that was meant for bigger plants. I had 1/4 teaspoon of superthrive in the mix too. What a maroon I was. geez. Lucky i didn't kill them. You can see the burn on the leaves of the big one where I spilled some on the foilage. I have very hard water. close to 400ppm. Our water comes from a limestone underground aquifer and there is a lot of limescale that collects on everything the water touches. I have a tds meter on the way. I am filtering with a brita filter, but i am thinking i might have to start using RO from the grocery store. My tds meter will be here tomorrow so i can see what is really happening. It appears to me that the leaves are too light colored like they need N, but there is N in there. It may be being locked out by all the calcium. sns
smoke n strum
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Just a quick additional comment UB, so you can get the whole picture. I had two plants that were too yellowy looking. You can see them in the last two pics I posted. The first is the long skinny leaved sativa looking Girl(i hope) in the 1 gallon paint can at the bottom of the second to last pic. (Cans have a bunch of 1/2" holes drilled in the bottom and side on bottom. they drain well ). , the second is in the last pic. I did a lot of research about it and knowing i have very hard water and them looking like they needed "N", I gave the two of them only some Jack's Classic acid special 17-6-6 at 1/4 teaspoon per gallon three days ago. I looked at them this morning and they look darker green to me now. I also fed the other two in the smart pots some Jack's 20-20-20 at 1/4 teaspoon per gallon. Like I said in another post, My tds meter is coming today. I don't worry about PH, because i figure if I get the ppm right, the ph will be right too. I have the following plant helpers available to me. Dynamic Duo, Acid special, Medina hastogro 6-12-6 and (superthrive, which I am not sure is of any value) . One other note: staring at your plants for long periods of time does not make them grow faster. sns
Uncle Ben
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Appreciate the kind words. Welcome to RIU and the thread.
Of all plant material I've grown and you name it, I've grown it, cannabis is the easiest to grow.
More than likely pythium got them. Did the trunk at ground level turn watery and brown and then the plants fell over?
Is it crazy or what? I can only laugh, and then get flamed at for speaking against the madness. Check this out for instance: https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/406078-bushmaster-gravity-questions-rep-good.html That's one of about 50.
It is funny. On "one" of those threads here, there was a guy that thought he hung the moon, gave us a link, something about BM touting someone else's product over his while preaching the sales games of his staff. These guys are wackos, laughing all the way to the bank. Got to admit, I do like the half naked chick at the AN website LOL. Tits sell.....
We're cut from the say cloth.
Yep, worked for me, thanks.Go Advanced then the Insert Image button. Then Select Files, pick your picture & upload then the pencil icon to make it medium or large size.
Hope that makes sense to upload your pics. Glad you see through the hype and bullshit.
Daniels
Make it a great day,
UB
smoke n strum
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UB, they didnt fall over. after about 10 days of no growth, I executed them. Thanks for the reply. sns
smoke n strum
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I'm reading about pythium...thanks
frogster
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Smoke n strum ,,, try to start a journal, im a newb (about finished with first grow, whew!!, looks like I made it, mistakes and all) , but I will follow it if you make a journal ... and give input were I can... I kinda like the nutes im using even they are "premium" I grow in hydro and these nutes keep the salt build up away... (amino acid based) I will switch to a cheaper version if I find one,,, but being chelated seems to keep the nute uptake range in check and I hardly have to adjust ph, ever! So, maybe not snakeoil in my case, I think dirt farmers have a little more options on cheaper nutes.
smoke n strum
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Hello frogster, Yeah, i have started taking pics and am thinking about starting a journal soon. I can't Bogart UB's thread anymore... sorry about that UB..got a little carried away there. I am a little worried about security having a grow going.. this is the first time I have spent any time on one of these sites, so i am nervous about being found out. Cultivation laws are pretty harsh. I don't know much about internet security. Thanks for the shout out Frogster... and UB keep on growin...sns
smoke n strum
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I topped the fourth one yesterday. Here are some pics. I took a clone being that I want two of these if they turn out to girls. I had to think about chopping that baby down for a few minutes but then I went back and looked at some of your pics in this thread and it got a lot easier. Any critiques are welcomed.
Uncle Ben
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If you're worried about security, buy an anon account. Take care of your security issues before you grow.
Good luck,
UB
smoke n strum
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Ok, I'll look into that.Thanks for the reply
Uncle Ben
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Based on a glance at the first photo, it worked. The rest is up to you.Used Uncle Ben's Technique today on my Raspberry Cough. She was 3.5 weeks old, and very hard for me to cut, but she is a Sativa plant with limited space. Hope it works UB!
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Good luck,
UB
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