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When you use the 24/7 grow time, do you ever have a dark time or do you have it on the 24/7 grow time until it sprouts?
24/hour light in veg is it good or should I 18/6?
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djruiner
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ummm..it does not even need light until after it sprouts...im confused *scratches head*
rastadred22
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there is no dark period if the lights are on 24/7....thats 24hrs a day 7days a week? and yea a seed will sprout regardless of light or not...
i think he is mistking th e7 out of 24/7 to be a dark period?
You are just like a girl. You win! I dont care to fight over something thats so pointless and means nothing for faster growth. And plants do sleep just to let you guys know, there in a state of rest, getting ready for the next day. weather you like it or not! And if you think you scared me away from posting because someone has a different opinion your just as stupid as you sound, Your the ignorant person that wont admit to yourself that you think your 100% right. But you win your right......
rastadred22
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im like a girl but u need tha last word right? last i knew this was an intelectual debate to where u wur at a loss of supporting evidence and truely had 0 valid points to offer...its very easy to say something with out proof as u have shown us i kno i am not 100% right but i do hang on to what i beleive to be right due to the facts and proof that presented it that way...untill what i beleive is to be right is proven wrong by facts given to me hard copy, then they will remain that way!....ignorance isnt not standing up for what is factually correct! ignorance is not accepting what is factually correct even after it has been proven! hard copy! i kno i win i have won this the moment ur ingorance was put on blast.....i do not think i scared u away and if i did that was not my intent...and as u have just stated above! ur different oppinion was only an oppinion and nothing more! a fact is a fact!
djruiner
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this is another trait im tired of on this site
you cant have a decent debate on a subject without one side either not having a fucking clue what they are talking about and/or turn it into childish name calling...and im not singling out you...im talking about 60-70% of this site now
rastadred22
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we see where u are coming from but ur reasons for thinkin so are not proven!...in each thread the only thing they say to support ur argument is the title! there are no fact shown that a plant is sleeping other than wen it rains and has shut down many of its processes...other than this time they do not do anything close to sleep!...u are trying to convince us that beucase there isnt light and the leave s aint pointin up the plant is sleep...i would beleive this if only u had the research to tell us otherwise...the most scientific proof u gave us talked about how the stomatas are closed wen the lights are off...and i had asked u if this was true than all desert plants are sleeping during the day when theres are closed and u had nothing to bac that once again! but it is a fact the only time a plant does anything remotely like sleepiing is during this leaching process...
djruiner
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i dont think your 100% wrong either...i dont think you understand correct botany terms and are being mislead by the grammar and titles of articles you read...which is ok bro..not everyone can easily understand most of plants biological properties.just keep a open mind when your reading these forums and try to learn from many sources that can prove facts with a little more back up to the material other then "this is what i believe"
Well I think this should sum it all up for everyone. I think everyone is right to be honest with you. Some plants do different things. Here is another post, and take note the references.
http://old.iupac.org/publications/pac/2003/pdf/7502x0353.pdf
http://old.iupac.org/publications/pac/2003/pdf/7502x0353.pdf
djruiner
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now your getting somewhere
rastadred22
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well im not trying to be an ass but that was a very interesting read but again they do not really touch on the subject wether they sleep or not but it does talk about literally one species of a plant sleeping and that is the leguminous plants:
(leguminous plant - an erect or climbing bean or pea plant of the family Leguminosae) (http://www.thefreedictionary.com/leguminous+plant)
and it says that its a darwin coulda been right by saying that they arent sleeping they are protecting themselves from chilling or freezing...also they think that the plant is basically hiding from moonlight...which doesnt explain that to the indoor marijuana grower..
again it doesnt really lead us to beleive that plants sleep....
djruiner
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but...at least is his doing further research on his own and using much better resources....teaching is more then telling them how to do it...its telling them ways to figure out themselves how to do it
rastadred22
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yes exactly i do feel like something was accomplished by this debate no matter if they agree or not in the end. at least now the ur looking for proof in the right places and made everyone read and take in valued text! as i gave him credit for it it was a great read!
ROFL!!! It dont make you beleave they sleep. Im sure I convinced enough people here that there is more possibility they sleep during the night time, and more evidence that proves my theory as well as others that beleive this to be true.
Just post anything where they talk about plants not sleeping? From a good source not from someones post becasue as you said b4 you cant go on someones opinion now I backed my mouth up. Your turn!
I really cant find one word about a plant not sleeping or that plants dont sleep.
Just post anything where they talk about plants not sleeping? From a good source not from someones post becasue as you said b4 you cant go on someones opinion now I backed my mouth up. Your turn!
I really cant find one word about a plant not sleeping or that plants dont sleep.
rastadred22
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wow u see u be nice to em and teach but they stay the ignorant people they are....i have posted alot of information that u prove to not only be to ingorant to read but not educated enough to understand how they prove that there aint nothin 'sleepy' about the way the behave at night...what a waist of time u prove to b! i mean for once ud think hey if i listin to these guys, who prove things to me not only from reliable sources but they got the pics to prove of there experience and success, i might actually have something worth posting other than the problems uve been having on ur unsuccesfull grows and the lack of the basic knowledge that plants even grow towards the sunlight! i think my job is done here! im sure anyone in their right mind can see that u have nothing valuable to offer to this website.....
Thats right you have nothing................... If you wouldn't have been so ignorant to not take one word I say as truth because your big ego wont allow you to be wrong. I wouldn't have been a dick again. You still say im wrong. The only thing you have is plants are still growing at night. YES THEY DO GROW AT NIGHT!!! But they are SLEEPING!!!
Highlight where it tells me that plants don't sleep plz because I wanna read this. http://biology.clc.uc.edu/courses/bio104/photosyn.htm
And I think your the most ignorant piece of scum to say I dont have nothing to offer. I dont think you have nothing to offer here, your not very smart. I just showed you where others think plants sleep at NIGHT!! So im not the only one that thinks this. And I know for a fact there way smarter then you.
Highlight where it tells me that plants don't sleep plz because I wanna read this. http://biology.clc.uc.edu/courses/bio104/photosyn.htm
And I think your the most ignorant piece of scum to say I dont have nothing to offer. I dont think you have nothing to offer here, your not very smart. I just showed you where others think plants sleep at NIGHT!! So im not the only one that thinks this. And I know for a fact there way smarter then you.
rastadred22
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i have prove dthat they are not only growing but still completeing processes similar to what it does when its 'awake'! everyone knows a plant doesnt sleep so u will not find someone literally waisting there time on writing ditty's about it on the internet, but instead they write articles like i have shown u which state all the work, emphisis on work, that plants do wen they are so called sleep. it has nothing to do with my ego, it has to do with stoppin ppl like u from spewing ur shitty text all over this site and turning into a big shitty forum that does nothing but house the shit written in it by ppl like u therefore making this site a cesspit!!