deprave
New Member
So one of the main issues people disagree on with these forums is pricing of the medicine. I am going to try my best to clear up the misconceptions that are common in these forums and summarize the arguments on all sides and I invite you to participate.
Dispensaries
The first thing I want to talk about is dispensaries, a common complaint on these forums is Dispensaries charge too much!
Is it expensive? Yes.
Would I personally be able to afford it? No. I would be forced to use the other 4 options to obtain my meds (CG, Compassion Club, Grow myself, or Verbal(street).)
but is it usually fair? Yes it is usually is a relatively fair deal, if you have ever run a retail business in this economy or know someone who does the first thing they are going to tell you is that you must double up what you spend at the least in order to make it. This is the number one important rule of retail its to double up! Caregivers are likely not often going to donate their overages on such a high demand product for much less than half of the value because at this point you start causing them a major loss.
Caregivers
Another heavily debated topic is the pricing caregivers use this one is a lot more complicated then dispensaries. Personally I give my patients their meds at the same cost it is to me, they get rid of about half of it and make their money back.
I understand some people actually give their meds away for free or claim they do and then they parade around these forums basically attacking anyone who doesn't do the same. It is nice that you can afford to do such a nice gesture but unless you are so wealthy that you can spend all this time and money growing at a cost to you I see this as very ignorant and I think others do also. If your a low cost/size operation just growing for one or two patients then whatever with one, two, or even three patients its very easy to provide everyone with tons of meds of next to nothing, Id probably give my meds for free also if this was my scenario but it really doesn't give you the right to criticize people who actually take growing seriously and have many patients to take care of as its completely different. Please understand when you get up to 4 and 5 patients it becomes a huge ring of people that are linked to you, your uttility bill soars up to the 4 digits approaching 5, you have to start hiring help to trim or do whatever...it gets expensive like running any other business.
I think this negativity is very bad for the community especially for new growers with aspirations you give them the impression that they are going to be able to give away free meds and everything is going to be fine and dandy when that is simply not the case in the vast majority of scenarios. Indoor Marijuana growing is not the huge money making machine people make it out to be, growing indoors is more of a hobbyist venture if anything.
On that note I want to put emphasis on some other ways people are negatively impacting the forums here with the debates on pricing. It seems to be that if for example someone has a small or even a large operation and they know their cost and output they often times seem to overlook the fact that the cost of different operations can vary greatly, as an example if someone has a 12 plant grow under a 1000W light they just assume that anyone with a 24 plant grow under a light or two automatically means that person has double the output and sometimes they go as far to even assume that the person has double the output at the same cost. If you got one pretty plant under your 400W MH in your closet that netted you a QP it doesnt mean that someone with 12 plants under a 1,000 watt is going to get 12 QPs, It just doesn't work like that as it is a lot more complicated than that folks, think before you make judgments like this!
Moral of the story: if you want cheaper indoors you gotta grow it yourself because the price is not going to change anytime soon.
Moral of the story#2: Dont Judge others without knowing all the details, it really is none of your beeze-wax.
to be continued...maybe..
Dispensaries
The first thing I want to talk about is dispensaries, a common complaint on these forums is Dispensaries charge too much!
Is it expensive? Yes.
Would I personally be able to afford it? No. I would be forced to use the other 4 options to obtain my meds (CG, Compassion Club, Grow myself, or Verbal(street).)
but is it usually fair? Yes it is usually is a relatively fair deal, if you have ever run a retail business in this economy or know someone who does the first thing they are going to tell you is that you must double up what you spend at the least in order to make it. This is the number one important rule of retail its to double up! Caregivers are likely not often going to donate their overages on such a high demand product for much less than half of the value because at this point you start causing them a major loss.
Caregivers
Another heavily debated topic is the pricing caregivers use this one is a lot more complicated then dispensaries. Personally I give my patients their meds at the same cost it is to me, they get rid of about half of it and make their money back.
I understand some people actually give their meds away for free or claim they do and then they parade around these forums basically attacking anyone who doesn't do the same. It is nice that you can afford to do such a nice gesture but unless you are so wealthy that you can spend all this time and money growing at a cost to you I see this as very ignorant and I think others do also. If your a low cost/size operation just growing for one or two patients then whatever with one, two, or even three patients its very easy to provide everyone with tons of meds of next to nothing, Id probably give my meds for free also if this was my scenario but it really doesn't give you the right to criticize people who actually take growing seriously and have many patients to take care of as its completely different. Please understand when you get up to 4 and 5 patients it becomes a huge ring of people that are linked to you, your uttility bill soars up to the 4 digits approaching 5, you have to start hiring help to trim or do whatever...it gets expensive like running any other business.
I think this negativity is very bad for the community especially for new growers with aspirations you give them the impression that they are going to be able to give away free meds and everything is going to be fine and dandy when that is simply not the case in the vast majority of scenarios. Indoor Marijuana growing is not the huge money making machine people make it out to be, growing indoors is more of a hobbyist venture if anything.
On that note I want to put emphasis on some other ways people are negatively impacting the forums here with the debates on pricing. It seems to be that if for example someone has a small or even a large operation and they know their cost and output they often times seem to overlook the fact that the cost of different operations can vary greatly, as an example if someone has a 12 plant grow under a 1000W light they just assume that anyone with a 24 plant grow under a light or two automatically means that person has double the output and sometimes they go as far to even assume that the person has double the output at the same cost. If you got one pretty plant under your 400W MH in your closet that netted you a QP it doesnt mean that someone with 12 plants under a 1,000 watt is going to get 12 QPs, It just doesn't work like that as it is a lot more complicated than that folks, think before you make judgments like this!
Moral of the story: if you want cheaper indoors you gotta grow it yourself because the price is not going to change anytime soon.
Moral of the story#2: Dont Judge others without knowing all the details, it really is none of your beeze-wax.
to be continued...maybe..