Where you are wrong is that you think it is my opinion.....it is not. I am not able to talk objectively about how man in general have treated women, viewed their place etc.
See you have never heard of the idea that man helped you in your "expression" so clearly you assume that it is my theory and my opinion....correct?
Why on earth would I have an agenda??...with you or anyone else, that's just ludicrous!
i find it interesting that you present one side of what is largely socially accepted as a hotly debated topic as -- what, fact? status quo? -- and then proceed to tell us these aren't your beliefs.... ummm.... ok....? i don't tend to spend pages and pages of rhetoric defending ideas i *don't believe, but to each his/her own i guess and we'll give you the benefit of the doubt.
explain this 'objective talk' you speak of please, kitty is, as you imply, simply too obtuse and closed-minded an individual to understand.
personally, i'd have a lot more respect for you if you came and said, "screw you, shut up, get back in the kitchen and make me some PIE woman, everyone knows bitches can't grow DICK" than these passive-aggressive "well, i don't actually believe this but this is what gets said.... " -parliamentary somersaults. we get enough of that on cpac, thanks.
it's not that i've never heard of the idea, just that it's a ludricrous, beside-the-point, desperate theory of patriarchs grasping at straws as if it matters WHO came up with the idea; and i have condescended to address that for your reading comprehension. but i guess that was just a waste of time and energy too. the magna carta, oft-hailed as a human-rights-cementing document across the ages, only applied to MEN in its time.
do you think it would matter one iota to the civil rights movement today if MLK had been asian? hispanic? a woman? (<-actually i guess we had rosa parkes for that...)
would you go onto a thread of people of colour asking for their own room and tell them that they didn't WIN their freedoms, the white man GAVE them to them? if a thread like that ever shows up i'm expecting that you're going to feel as duty-bound to go tell them that as you feel the need to say similar things here.
and here, i actually thought i was having an academic discussion....